Looking at german retailer Mindfactory sales the 7900X3D made a very slow start compared to the 7950X3D, but mind you, on the long run it managed the same sales quantity, so better to look at the real numbers than doing random estimations based on a personal preference.AMD should not make 9900x3d as it's really just 6-core cpu - thus inferior to all other x3d models. Or if they want to make 12-core version at least they should do it asymmetric maintaining fully functional 8-core x3d die. Or at least sell that 6-core dual die chip at lower price than fully functional die parts.
Looking at german retailer Mindfactory sales the 7900X3D made a very slow start compared to the 7950X3D, but mind you, on the long run it managed the same sales quantity, so better to look at the real numbers than doing random estimations based on a personal preference.
If you had payed attention to the graph for games you' d had seen that it perform as well as other X3D CPUs since even at stock, that is with both CCDs enabled, the 9800X3D is only 5% ahead, and in MT it s up to 39% faster since the average at Computerbase is flawed by GB ML wich is limited to 8C as well as GB 6.4 and also Affinity Photo whose scaling is dubbious from 8 to 12C.
Last but not least the MT peak power comsumption is 147.9W for the 9800X3D and 161.6W for the 9900X3D, so 39% better MT perf is done with barely 10% higher power.
The Ryzen 9 9900X3D is the fastest 12-core gaming CPU, but here's why you shouldn't buy it
Solid performance meets questionable pricing.www.tomshardware.com
It ain't as good as 9800x3d or 9950x3d. 9950x3d is as good as 9800x3d but 9900x3d sure performs worse in gaming. And sole purpose of those x3d cpus is gaming so 9900x3d is totally pointless cpu. More so when game engines fully scale to 8-threads.
I think this is one of those cases where the prdocut isn't bad but the price is.
over the 9800X3D wich is a better choice only for pure gamers who do nothing else with their PCs.
Which is pretty much what DIY is.
There s not only gamers that DIY PCs, there s lot of productivity motivated builders, check the prices of productivity dedicated PCs sold by OEMs and you ll get an idea
of their relevancy.
As stated in the review, new OS got new software versions (e.g. kernel or Python). This means the test shows how Zen 5 fares with newest Ubuntu compared to Zen 5 with older Ubuntu. But it doesn't say anything else about relative performance to other AMD or Intel processors. IMO it would be interesting to include Zen 4 and some Intels to see which processor family benefits the most.
It’s not a fraudulent product. I am not sure why you think that. The 9900X3D will outperform the 9900X in every benchmark.For it's purposed use case -gaming AMD thread director disables 3d-cacheless chiplet. So it's only 6-core and inferior cpu to not only 9950x3d but also 9800x3d which have full 8-core x3d die. 9900x3d should not exists as it's lower grade cpu with higher price than 9800x3d. Only people that doesn't know about their relative performance will buy one - so AMD should stop being ass and just stop selling such a fraudulent product.
Overall that s a much better all rounder, personaly if restrained to a choice between those two CPUs i would pick the 9900X3D over the 9800X3D wich is a better choice only for pure gamers who do nothing else with their PCs.
*Maybe* this is correct (in terms of number of sales or/and average sales price); I don't know whether or not it is indeed.Gamers drive DIY sales.
No: https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9900x3d/5It’s not a fraudulent product. I am not sure why you think that. The 9900X3D will outperform the 9900X in every benchmark.
But even if so, this doesn't imply that vendors, such as AMD, have an obligation to reduce their DIY-targeted portfolios to 1337-g4m0rz-only products.
Edit, or an obligation to align product pricing with gamers.
It’s not a fraudulent product. I am not sure why you think that. The 9900X3D will outperform the 9900X in every benchmark.
That's ridiculous. It's not fraud to sell a product that's not intended for gaming. By that logic Threadripper is fraudulent too.Whole AMD 12-core series is fraudulent. They sell mostly useless dual binned CCD at higher price than one full CCD. Their sole market segment is those people that just though that 12 cores are way better than 8 -many will buy them for gaming and pay more for less performance. They should do right thing and use those binned parts only in very bottom of their product range.
Overwatering the plants... Exactly what I expect a slug would say. Can't fool meYour logic here is impeccable.
You have this backwards. The scenario they laid out is the unrealistic, "no water for plants" scenario and I am advocating for giving the plants normal amounts of water.
Edit: actually, it's more like they advocated for overwatering plants to ensure lack of water wasn't a limiting variable so they were only testing soil quality. Except the effect of soil quality when overwatering may not be applicable to when the plants receive a normal amount of water.
Whole AMD 12-core series is fraudulent. They sell mostly useless dual binned CCD at higher price than one full CCD. Their sole market segment is those people that just though that 12 cores are way better than 8 -many will buy them for gaming and pay more for less performance. They should do right thing and use those binned parts only in very bottom of their product range.
Yeah. What he really should be concentrating on is complaining about the lack of dual V-cache CCDsWould you stop crapping on AMD for making a 12 core?
I see you're also a connoisseur of pointless thingsYeah. What he really should be concentrating on is complaining about the lack of dual V-cache CCDs
And shutting me up about that is really easy. Give me a working 9184X CPU/mobo combo for $1500 or less