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I am disappointed with Tom's Review (I know, right?) but I really want to see 3070/3070 Ti and 2080/2080Ti comparisons along with ideally the 6800/6800XT from AMD. These compared GPUs aren't useful for anyone considering an upgrade from those cards, IMO.



I can extrapolate a lot from this graph but I'd love to see the updated bench numbers of these older cards.

I got a 9070 at MSRP (in a box still, sad) and if that was available it would make this super redundant. The availability of the 5070 at MSRP already does a fine job of it when the price on the 16GB is so close to $500. That final $50 step (minus 4GB ram) to the 5070 is a bit of a banger.

Continues to make me incredibly frustrated with the viability of new GPUs under ~$550.
 
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I really want to see 3070/3070 Ti and 2080/2080Ti comparisons along with ideally the 6800/6800XT from AMD.
3070 and 3080 here: https://babeltechreviews.com/rtx-5060-ti-16gb-review/

6800 XT in the TPU review.

3070, 6800 XT and B580 here: https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Gefo...eview-Preis-kaufen-Benchmark-Specs-1470373/3/

3070, 3070 Ti and 3080 here: https://quasarzone.com/bbs/qc_bench/views/94642

Lots of cards here: https://www.eteknix.com/asus-prime-oc-rtx-5060-ti-graphics-card-review/

Multiple 3080 models tested (they must mistrust the 3080 a lot): https://darktech-reviews.com/33074/3

Plenty GPUs compared: https://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-16-gb-test.92119/
 
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Continues to make me incredibly frustrated with the viability of new GPUs under ~$550.
Perhaps they are trying to revive the dying console market. Joking aside; unless the current factors exacerbating costs subside, and the AI demand dies down, it is only going to get worse.
 

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Perhaps they are trying to revive the dying console market. Joking aside; unless the current factors exacerbating costs subside, and the AI demand dies down, it is only going to get worse.
Ha, well with consoles pushing their prices north too - yeah, it is what it is.

I am not in any hurry to burn through my little cache of 6700XT and 3060 GPUs. I'll save them for friends & family that want to game but not make a big compromise.

That said, its not like a 3070 for like $240 secondhand is unusable, but man... it could have been great.
 

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Shameless shill. My advice is don't waste your time on that channel.
That said, its not like a 3070 for like $240 secondhand is unusable, but man... it could have been great.
Nvidia knew that, which is why they crippled it. There will be no more 1080 TIE mistakes. 3060 12GB is aging better. I would not opt for the better compute of the 3070, frame pacing issues, ugly textures, textures not loading, etc. ain't worth bigger bar better IMO.
 

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Especially since a 7800 XT can be had for the same price as a 5060 Ti 16GB, pretty poor showing.
With DLSS4 working on older RTX, being able to get MFG from an $8 app, and the long list of driver issues, this gen is a flop. The only thing it has going for it is a scarcity economy.
 

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Despite the disappointing Average gain of 14.2%, in some games the gains are actually pretty good and in some the gain is miniscule.
Thats because the 4060 Ti actually regressed vs the 3060 TI in some games. so the better results should be compared vs a 3060 Ti and then you realize just how much the 5060 Ti sucks compared to a 5 year old card.
 
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Thats because the 4060 Ti actually regressed vs the 3060 TI in some games. so the better results should be compared vs a 3060 Ti and then you realize just how much the 5060 Ti sucks compared to a 5 year old card.
I am talking about something else.
I am comparing 5060Ti vs 4060Ti, they are specwise the same chips only 4060Ti has 2SM disabled.
Yet in CBP2077 you see 31.5% gain but in Doom Eternal only 3.3%. Why?

edit: now that I had a better look, 3060TI specwise is also pretty comparable.

ModelTBPSMCUDATMUROPReal Boost (MHz)TFLOPsTexel Fillrate (Gtex/s)Pixel Fillrate (Gpx/s)Bandwidth (GB/s)Average at 1440p
RTX 3060TI 8GB200 W38486415280187518.24285150448100 %
RTX 4060TI 16GB165 W34435213648277524.15377.4133.2288114.3 %
RTX 5060Ti 16GB180 W364,60814448267024.61384.5128.16448129.6 %
Only 30% increase of performance after 4.5 years at similar price point.

 
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