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  1. Discussion Mediatek SoC thread

    I was under the impression that the majority of the gaming issues with the Qualcomm chips were due to the CPU, not the GPU side of things. I can't find any good sources saying one way or another. Though just looking at the list of games, there are a lot that can specifically be nailed down to an...
  2. Discussion Mediatek SoC thread

    The two biggest issues with X Elite game compatibility are anti-cheat kernal modules, and usage of newer instructions which legally can't be emulated. An Nvidia iGPU won't help with either of those. The way I see it, if Joe Shmo walks into Best buy and buys a Mediatek laptop because it has an...
  3. Discussion Mediatek SoC thread

    I don't think so. From a technical comparison maybe, not from a buyers perspective imo. The biggest benefit of using Nvidia graphics will be putting the brand name in advertising, but it's yet to be seen if Mediatek will be allowed to use "Nvidia". It could hurt the brand if the arm chips can't...
  4. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Isn't the latency issue just for CPUs with multiple CCXs? The 9700X is only has one CCD, so it wouldn't be affected.
  5. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    It's not that any tasks will be "out of reach" for a 8840hs. Lunar Lake will have a double digit lead in single threaded benchmarks vs phoenix / hawk point. And most client workloads are lightly threaded.
  6. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Ehh, I think that depends heavily on the who's buying it. Lunar Lake with 16GB will be as fast or faster for the types of stuff that most users do, while offering much better battery life.
  7. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    The low operating margin isn't a good explanation for why AMD is a bad partner, IMHO. Their gross margin (which doesn't include overhead) is close to 50%. AMD could substantially increase their operating margin if they sold more chips.
  8. Discussion Qualcomm Snapdragon Thread

    It seems a bit misleading to use multi core benchmarks to compare "efficiency" between laptop chips. It makes the 12 core X Elite SKUs look more "efficient" compared to the lower end SKUs. In reality, 95% of the workloads these chips will be subjected to won't use 8+ cores. Comparing power...
  9. Question so long and thanks for all the fish

    Long time coming. I should go back through and reread their deep dive articles while they're still available. Or maybe I'll try and make an offline copy.
  10. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    They didn't. I'm not sure I see your point. I'm saying that the 40% ipc claim (by leakers) is not comparable to the 50% ppw claim (by AMD). One was never going to happen, the other was plausible.
  11. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    That claim wasn't nearly as unbelievable as the Zen5 40% ipc claim was. RDNA1 increased ppw by around 25% over Radeon VII. RDNA2 by around 25-50% over RDNA1 (depending on sku). And unlike RDNA3, those two generations didn't have the benefit of a new node.
  12. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    If you follow the discussion, the first comment was specifically about server workloads.
  13. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    With Zen5, AMD went from one 4 wide decoder to two 4 wide decoders. They also widened most other parts of the core. On paper it's the biggest change since Zen1. Unfortunately, the real world gains do not live up to the hype, and in some workloads are practically non-existant. No one knows why...
  14. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    For gaming, definitely. For office/productivity, I'm not so sure. For battery life, I would imagine that two CCXs is better. Seeing as strix point is a high end chip that is primarily in gaming laptops, 8 full Zen5 cores would be a better fit overall.
  15. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    They can't change the manufacturing node a year from launch.
  16. Question Zen 6 Speculation Thread

    That's not how that works. Windows provides an API. Drivers can only implement functionality that the API allows. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/ddi/
  17. Question Zen 6 Speculation Thread

    The OS can run a translation layer, yes, but not the chipset driver.
  18. Question Zen 6 Speculation Thread

    Can they? I'm not super familiar with Chipset drivers, but that sounds pretty far fetched. I don't think the chipset drivers "know" when a new program is run. Even if they do, that would add a delay each time a program is started. Not to mention the whole translation aspect.
  19. Question Zen 6 Speculation Thread

    You're probably right. I'm going from memory.
  20. Question Zen 6 Speculation Thread

    How would the chipset driver know if a specific program is the old x86-64 or the new fixed length ISA? At some level, the OS would have to involved. And while I don't know the terms of their cross-licensing agreement, I doubt if it allows them to create x86 emulators.
  21. Question Zen 6 Speculation Thread

    I think you're misunderstanding what a micro op cache is. Whether an instruction is variable length or fixed length makes no difference once it's translated to micro ops. Every x86 CPU since the original 8086 has used micro ops. If they're "translating" variable length instructions to fixed...
  22. Intel processors crashing Unreal engine games (and others)

    No discussion about Intel's microcode update and associated statement yet? My takeaways The patch requires a bios update. The microcode limits the voltage to 1.55V. As far as I can tell, this is the only change. Intel says the cause of the degradation is voltage. No performance loss except in...
  23. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    There's just no market for them right now. Gamers should get the 7800X3D or wait for the 9800X3D. Those who need high core counts should either get the 7950X or 9950X.
  24. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    It's really just semantics. Every CPU carries over some design elements from previous generation. Even Zen used elements Carizzo, but I will say that Zen5 seems to be the biggest change to Zen yet...
  25. Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    That seems like a over generalization to me. Plenty of people watch Netflix on their laptop in full screen.
  26. Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Seems like that depends way to much on stuff other than the SOC to nail it down to a figure as specific as 4-5%.
  27. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    I was curious about this, so I checked TPU's numbers. Comparing peak clock speeds. The 7800X3D lost 500MHz vs the 7700X. The 5800X3D only lost 300MHz vs the 5800X.
  28. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Tech power up has their review up https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9700x/
  29. Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Yeah, Meteor Lake has a low power island, and it does better in video playback than in other battery benchmarks, compared to Phoenix and Raptor Lake mobile. Assuming you got that number from this video, the number they quote is 150-200mW, which is a 10-15% difference in package power.
  30. Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    I think Lunar Lake might match the X Elite in some workloads. I don't think it'll beat it all around. Intel's QuickSync engine combined with the low power island and better manufacturing nodes should give lunar lake excellent battery life in video playback. I think this is where Lunar Lake will...
  31. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    He said 2 chiplet embargo lifts on the 14th. I think he meant the 9900X and 9950X, which are technically 3 chipelts, but only 2 compute chiplets. It wouldn't make any sense for a product embargo to lift several days after the product is on the shelves. A user on this forum, go back a page.
  32. Question DEGRADING Raptor lake CPUs

    According to pudget, their AMD chips also have a higher failure rate than 13th gen and 14th gen Intel. Maybe not all workloads cause degradation as quickly? The Minecraft servers (I think Wendell mentioned them) we're almost all failing within 6 months.
  33. Intel processors crashing Unreal engine games (and others)

    No, I don't think that's the best way to handle this. The performance of Zen5 vs raptor lake is still relevant even if no one should buy Raptor Lake. Leaving Raptor Lake off the charts just serves to stir up drama. There are buyers who are looking to switch from raptor lake. There are people...
  34. Discussion Qualcomm Snapdragon Thread

    No, but adding pipeline stages allows designers to increase clockspeed. In an CPU with no pipelining, the core has to decode and execute the whole instruction in a single cycle. It takes a long time for the chip to do all that work. Pipelining is splitting the work into multiple stages. By...
  35. Intel processors crashing Unreal engine games (and others)

    Yeah, I actually like the new Intel. They've made some great moves. Separating their foundry from their CPU design is better for both imo Focusing more on core business Adding a competitive GPU architecture as part of their core business Adding e-cores with great PPA Taking more risks in...
  36. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    The HX 370 specs say that it supports DDR5. Does it only support soldered memory? CAMM can't come soon enough.
  37. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    I see people claiming this a lot, but I have yet to see any good arguments for Apple cores reaching higher frequencies. Looking at other chips, the X elite caps out at 4.2GHz, and the Cortex-X4 is even lower. It seems to me that the design of these cores (with their mobile roots) has a lower...
  38. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    How small does it have to be to be acceptable? If it's too small then the NPU wouldn't be useful for anything, then it would really be a waste. I understand being skeptical of Microsoft's 40TOP mandate, but 10% of the die area is not that bad. NPUs currently have a chicken and the egg problem...
  39. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Not sure, I'm no expert and I don't work in the industry. I just like reading about CPU architecture.
  40. Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Nice, could you add the source? Edit: nevermind, I'm dumb Edit, if I'm interpreting this right, the NPU doesn't take up that much die area. About as much as 4 Zen5c or 8 RDNA 3.5 CUs.
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