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    Massive security hole in CPU's incoming?Official Meltdown/Spectre Discussion Thread

    I just gave up on my Lumia 950 like a month ago. I'm amazed by how ahead of its time it was in several ways. People are sheep. Win phone should have killed it.
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    [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    Wouldn't AMD eventually make RDNA the new architecture in the more compute-focused lines like Instinct? If so then it makes sense that it would "trickle down" from there just like VII did. Even if it's still mostly a matter of boosting memory bandwidth and using more memory on the card that's...
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    [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    I did a quick google search and from what I can see Nvidia had higher revenue in 2017 than AMD in 2018. On the other hand though the stock value of Nvidia has dropped over the last year whereas AMD has increased. Not only that, AMD's value has gone up since Zen got introduced and keeps...
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    [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    "should". I suppose we'll see how this all turns out. Could be it sells, could be it doesn't. Maybe it'll sell poorly, maybe well. Maybe Nvidia will drop prices and AMD follows, maybe not. I think the bottom line is that AMD created a GPU for consoles etc and started rolling out the products...
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    [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    And in what way does the above change that them choosing Navi shows it isn't a crappy GPU?
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    [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    I didn't say it made it crappy or great, that wasn't the point. The point was that they wouldn't choose a crappy GPU. Since Navi was chosen it means; Navi is not a crappy GPU... (not "Navi is great").
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    [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    If people are crapping all over Navi for being underwhelming, as an architecture, then it would also be wise to remember that neither Sony nor Microsoft would pick a crappy architecture for their consoles which will sell in the 100's of millions of units. Just wouldn't happen. Clearly AMD is...
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    [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    Yeah, you still fail to comprehend what I'm saying. Hint: It had nothing to do with defending a product's price, and it had nothing to do with the actual volume of future sales. You just don't understand what I'm trying to say... after all these posts...
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    [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    I take it it's accurate to say you're not a capitalist then? Because that's how the capitalist market works.
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    [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    There are two possible options at this point - logically speaking: 1) Nobody will ever buy any video card priced at $450. No sales for Nvidia. No sales for AMD.... or 2) You don't know a) what the word "if" implies, and b) what a "hypothetical" is. I've tried to explain it to you multiple...
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    [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    Follow the conversation please: Me: "I'm addressing what I think a lot of buyers are not doing, which is what you seem to be doing; looking at a company's progress of a product type, getting underwhelmed, and then using that as an argument for not choosing those products" You: "And I addressed...
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    [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    That's not really addressing it so much as adding another argument the logic of which I don't disagree with. The original line of thought that I did address is still problematic, and that's all I was pointing out. The key word is "if". I used that word to provide a hypothetical situation to...
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    [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    I have no idea what point you're trying to make. It looks as if you're trying to say something that is opposite of what I suggested, but I don't see it. I never said the 2070 or 5700xt are ok value. I'm addressing what I think a lot of buyers are not doing, which is what you seem to be doing...
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    [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    Well, it's underwhelming for you, but you're an enthusiast that has followed this part of the market. I'm betting a lot of buyers haven't and couldn't care less about this card relative to the previous generation. When I'm buying I'm looking at bang-for-buck at the time of purchase. I don't...
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    First of all, not everyone is a gamer. Even for some professional workloads memory speed isn't crucial and neither is gaming performance. Secondly, from what I can tell a lot of the memory "issues" were reported by early adopters using memory they thought should work but didn't, but also in...
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    I'm not sure I understand why you say that. I got a Ryzen 7 1700 a few months before the 2700 came out. I got a really good 8 core CPU at a great price, with a completely acceptable fan included that isn't too loud and that does the job. Overclocks on all cores easily to 3.7GHz or 3.8... 16GB...
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    AdoredTV's Jim fooled us all. He fooled everyone except a few. He's horrible. It's fake news.
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    Well why don't you tell that admin that all of the posts in these past few threads on Ryzen and Navi where Mockingbird and others are crapping on Jim are also OT and not technical about CPUs? Why would you leave the posts that are OT yet delete my thread? Either do your job and get rid of the...
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    I did. The moderators deleted it. Apparently it's fine to crap on Jim and AdoredTV in all of the AMD threads and making them a pain to read, but not to create a separate thread for it. I'm a bit confused I must say. Moderators?
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    AMD Ryzen 3000 - not so disruptive?

    .......................... Your post is completely inappropriate for the tech forums. esquared Anandtech Forum Director
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    Yeah, I didn't necessarily mean they'd release a high end Navi this year, but what they could do (maybe) is either update the Radeon VII or announce a higher end Navi, possibly along with a TR announcement. Even if they can release both early next year that'd probably be good for those...
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    Thanks for posting the link, I missed this. I think it's good news that Lisa clarified TR will get updates. A 12-core Ryzen that beats or matches a 9920x is cause for concern for those thinking about investing in TR and a 16-core would have made it even more of a difficult choice since an Intel...
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    Do you put cores in a shopping cart when you buy CPUs or do you buy a complete CPU?
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    "I know you are, but what am I?" clever Maybe we should start an AdoredTV thread where you guys can post exactly what he said along with the video and time code and then we can all just agree that he's essentially a narcissist horrible person. Shall I start it?
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    Then again, if it wasn't for Jim would you kids really feel as good about yourselves?
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    My first visit to New York City back in the 90's I was heading down to the subway at 42nd street. I was just about to head on into the station at street level when this guy walked up to me and flashed a watch and said: "Wanna buy a TAG? 50 bucks!" Now, if I was "gullible" then I would have...
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    Do they? I haven't kept count. I think it's a good time to take a larger perspective here; what is his channel like compared to others? For some reason, I think it was because someone pointed towards it as a source, I watched several Redgamingtech videos. As far as I can see, Jim's channel...
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    People have over recent years been (inadvertently?) taught to not pay attention to detail, nuance and context, even more so than before. He's said pretty frequently that he's going by what his sources say in conjunction with his own speculation, and that facts can and indeed do change over time...
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    Does he? I've seen him use bits and pieces of information along with what he calls "leaks" or "sources" to speculate on what we might eventually see, not work the other way around to create "leaks" that never existed. How do you know these things? It's not without irony that you're on this...
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    Sounds plausible. not.
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    Really? What's their marketshare? Zero? 5%? 15%?…. Please explain to us all just what "irrelevant" means in terms of marketshare.If that's not a good metric you can compare revenue instead. Or profits. Your call, we'll wait... Yes, we know all of that. Clearly you're not paying attention...
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    I meant that in the "near" future Intel will add more to the market and if TR can no longer compete with Zen or Zen+ then it's a tough choice to buy into x399 if there's no prospect of a 32core better performing Zen2 TR coming.
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    I would think the primary problem for x399 moving forward if they release an AM4 16 core cpu is that it puts into question the future of the TR4 platform. I think potential buyers of a TR would ask themselves just where that platform is heading. Sure, there's the 32 core current CPU, but what...
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    [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    What other architectures are AMD planning in the near term then? I could be confused, but my impression was that Navi was the next generation of AMD GPUs, and that IF they wanted to compete at the high end that would be the GPU to do it. I think a lot of people agree with that.
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    [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    Ok, I admit defeat. AMD CPUs cost half of what Intel CPUs cost at equal performance, and the platform doesn't matter. Future AMD GPUs will cost half of what Nvidia GPUs cost at equal performance, against completely disregarding things like how much VRAM is on there. There's absolutely no...
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    [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    "all"? Yeah, I don't think so. You're talking about a fraction of a fraction, meaning HEDT people are a fraction of the CPU buying market, and out of all of those only some could do without all the lanes x99 offered. I'm not denying that it was amazing, but I am absolutely questioning the...
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    [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    No it wasn't. Why? Because: Look at who bought non-x99 Intel chips. Now look at who bought 1800x chips. Look at who bought x99 chips. Look at who bought Threadripper chips. Apples to apples is the correct comparison. AMD did not release a chip that killed the 6900K at half the price, they...
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    [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    The 6900K was an HEDT CPU with 40 PCIe lanes though, correct? And 4 DDR4 channels? So the reasonable comparison would have been to a Threadripper CPU. Either that or pick a low-lane-count Intel CPU.
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    [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    https://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph10337/81819.png by Ian Cutress on May 31, 2016 2:01 AM EST
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