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    9800GX2-->"Up to a 90% performance increase over the...

    My AGP "issues" were common enough... I'm not knocking the HD2900XT, just the CCC, that's all I wanted to clarify with my questioning about your experiences with CCC. But that's all off-topic... Well, I suppose Fusion is off-topic, too. I wouldn't count Fusion = modularity as being very...
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    9800GX2-->"Up to a 90% performance increase over the...

    What? I've made no secret of my dislike for the Catalyst Control Center. As I told you via PM, I would've kept the HD2900XT if I could've gotten CCC working, but I couldn't, and I also made out well switching to an 8800GTS (heat/power). Did you not also get frustrated with driver...
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    9800GX2-->"Up to a 90% performance increase over the...

    I'm not knocking AMD's GPUs. I'm saying that it doesn't make sense to believe that AMD will try to corner the integrated GPU market by tying those good GPUs to a faltering CPU roadmap. If AMD's CPU future were looking bright, things would be different, but it isn't. As to being vague for...
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    No further AGP cards from nVidia.

    evolucion8: Believe what you will. The fact is that there were a lot of crappy AGP products on the market, and enough people got burned that there's a lingering hatred for AGP on this forum. There's your explanation. You can claim no understanding of this problems, and you can act like only...
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    9800GX2-->"Up to a 90% performance increase over the...

    I thought they already covered this? In case you haven't been following the CPU scene, AMD is having enough trouble competing (profitably) with Intel on non-Fusion processors. Any "free die space" that AMD gets with a shrinking process and/or other manufacturing advances (in which AMD are...
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    No further AGP cards from nVidia.

    IMO, it's about hating AGP. People still have really bad memories of AGP. I went through quite a few BSOD/lockups with various boards and drivers. Just look at the recently resolved (?) issues with Catalyst drivers, for one example of how frustrating AGP can be. Back in my old AGP days, I can...
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    4 DIMM vs 2 DIMM for Stability and Overclocking

    Slightly OT: Have you tried increasing DIMM voltage w/ 4 DIMMs?
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    9800 GX2 Benchmark is out!

    Fixed.
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    best reservoir

    A few years ago I read about evaporative cooling. Apparently, you rig up a long, large piece of PVC pipe as a vertical shaft, drop the hot water down the shaft to cool it -- like a tiny, artificial waterfall -- and keep a fan running at the top of the shaft to help pull the moist air out...
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    AMD plans native 8-core cpu

    Native octa-core? I'd be happy if they got native quad-core working. The TLB issues, platform immaturity, and overclocking issues have really cut into AMD's support within the enthusiast community. I want a strong AMD!
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    Trouble with gigabyte ep35-ds3r- suspend / standby problems

    I'm running the F11 BIOS, which is the latest for my P35-DS3R rev. 1.0.
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    Trouble with gigabyte ep35-ds3r- suspend / standby problems

    Yep, I have smilingcrow's problem: I can confirm that this happens to me after clean installation (w/ drivers) after BIOS flash + clear CMOS. No standby at 6x333, but it works fine at 10x266 or even 6x300. Boosting everything by 0.2v still doesn't make S3 work at a high FSB. Nothing I've...
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    No hi-K (or MG) for AMD's 45nm

    A gallant effort, to be sure! :) Thanks for the recollection, BTW.
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    No hi-K (or MG) for AMD's 45nm

    Heat is the wasted energy, so if power consumption is not cut by much, heat output probably will not change much either. So this news means that the heat reduction won't be great? From what I've read, these chips run cool at stock speeds but really heat up near 3 GHz. But, AFAIK, those could...
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    Overclocking problems

    You might need +0.1v on the FSB and MCH w/ 9 x 333. Boosting RAM voltage may also help. My P35-DS3R runs the RAM at 1.8v fine when the CPU is at stock clocks, but, when overclocked, my RAM voltage takes a big dip from 1.78v to 1.75v sometimes, so I give it +0.1v to keep it always above 1.8v...
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    Trouble with gigabyte ep35-ds3r- suspend / standby problems

    I found an interesting workaround for this problem. This method will let you run the PC at a slightly lower FSB during normal use (and during suspend/resume), yet your FSB will automatically (and predictably) increase under load. So you can effectively overclock past 266 mhz FSB (or wherever...
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    Gigabyte P35 DS3L not holding overclock overnight

    Hmm... low-level RAM timings... I'll give that a shot soon. Here's some interesting data points for you. While troubleshooting S3 power-saving issues, I gave up on getting S3 to work w/ > 266 FSB and simply decided to isolate the factor that was causing the resume/boot issues. To begin...
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    Penryn Temperature Software Discussion [update]

    does this impact earlier chips?
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    Barcelona finally ready

    http://www.despair.com/demotivation.html
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    *New* 9800GX2 Pic's

    I see an SLi solution with 3-4 output connectors, but hasn't SLi been incompatible with multi-monitor support? I think this may have been brought up in an older 8800GX2 thread, but ... maybe nVidia has fixed this old limitation with SLi? Very good news, if true. Of course, it's still...
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    Yet another sneaky Nvidia trick

    Yep, I remember reading about this in an article a LONG time ago. It's only dishonest if (a) the tech. is being enabled solely for a specific card and (b) nVidia is purposely not bringing this to any of the reviewers' attention. Anyway... Older versions of nTune (i.e. back in the NF4...
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    Orthos X for quad-core testing?

    Torture test IS made for testing machine stability, so what you said makes sense. Yes, I think it does report errors without round-off checking; however, when I used round-off-checking, I got a different error message about there being a hardware problem. So either round-off checking is more...
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    How's these temps?

    LINPACK will do ~15C more than Prime95 on my chip. Sadly, I had TM2 enabled, so the throttling kicked in ~90C and saved my chip.
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    GA-P35-DS3R Problem

    You could check your manufacturer's recommended memory voltage. If your memory uses a non-stock voltage (i.e. > 1.8v), the system may not start with the default BIOS settings. It's an annoying catch-22. In this case, you would have to put in a stick of RAM that can handle stock voltage...
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    Anybody Else Have This Problem with Gigabyte DS3R ?

    GA-P35-DS3R v1.0 + Tuniq blowing toward rear = very tight fit, but OK once installed However, that was nothing compared to connecting the 4-pin w/ a GeminII cooler in a CM-690 case where top exhaust fans are right next to the top of the motherboard. Even with the 2x120mm fan rack off, I had...
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    Trouble with gigabyte ep35-ds3r- suspend / standby problems

    I wouldn't generalize it that much yet. Doclife is in contact with Gigabyte, so maybe there'll be a way to isolate this problem and get it fixed with a BIOS update. This series of MB from Gigabyte is supposed to have excellent and stable power delivery -- especially for overclocking -- according...
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    Trouble with gigabyte ep35-ds3r- suspend / standby problems

    Yeah, I get the same problem with my GA-P35-DS3R v1.0 + E4400 when FSB is raised above 266 MHz. IIRC, I would get occasional S3 resume problems at 280 MHz; by 300 MHz, the system will never wake up. Moving to 333 MHz doesn't fix anything. The computer has to be powered off manually and allowed...
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    Does heat increase from clock speed or only voltage?

    Both clocks and voltage contribute to heat output, but voltage contributes the most by far.
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    What's your Prefered system stability test?

    I do the following for a given target OC: -- Test desired FSB clock w/ Prime95 Blend 12 hr., raising vmch, vfsb, and/or vdimm as needed -- Test desired RAM clock w/ Memtest86+ 12 hr., raising vdimm and/or vmch as needed -- Test desired CPU clock w/ Prime95 Blend 12 hr., raising vcore as...
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    Geforce 9800 GTX: Picture and specs

    You mean like when Intel bailed AMD out? Intel said, look, we're making obscene profits with these P4/netburst gimmicks, so we'll just dummy up for now and let you gain legally significant market share in key areas with your AMD64 crap. But... in return... when you begin to cut into our...
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    Nvidia likes cake!

    I remain thoroughly skeptical that these problems will remain when CSI hits the market. All those outcomes seem great, except for SLi being limited to AMD platforms. nVidia's SLI licensing requirement is idiotic. People say that this SLI licensing push is keeping nVidia's motherboard...
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    Geforce 9800 GTX: Picture and specs

    Maybe nVidia is trying to get upper high end prices back under $300? :laugh:
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    E8400 vs Q6600 for $200

    I'm guessing you meant 90 F... ... because... 90 C is really 194 F :Q Otherwise, I definitely agree with your major point. Having my PC in my bedroom has made me much more heat-concious. That's one reason I switched from a HD2900XT to an 8800GTS (which runs ~25C cooler load/idle when fan is...
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    New E8400 build - Trying to OC but can't break 3.45ghz - What am I doing wrong?

    You probably need more vcore. Try up to 1.4v, but don't push past this point yet. Running Prime95 like that will tell you nothing about temps or stability. To do proper stress-testing, go to the stickied guides and find Prime95 25.6 or later...
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    Overclocked my E8400 to 4ghz, is this safe to run?

    You won't notice the difference between 3.6 and 4.0 GHz in most real-world situations. However, running at 1.5v constantly will probably shorten the life of your chip and will definitely produce quite a bit more heat. It'll also use a bit more power. I say clock it back. Extreme o/c-ing is...
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    Very poor 3DMark06 score

    Your CPU score looks accurate (for that chip). But the GPU numbers are way off for a G92 GTS. You should be closer to 5000 pts on each. I'm out of suggestions at this point, unless you can try your card in a different PC or do a clean installation of Windows on an old hard drive. Those...
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    Overclocking and You.. Why?

    Really? I think the same thing happened to my grandfather. There was no overheating or anything. One day, he just stopped. I overclock because it's low-cost fun and performance. It's kind of like fishing: everyone wants to get The Big One, the great chip that overclocks like heck and...
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    Very poor 3DMark06 score

    My suggestions: EDIT: removed suggestion to check PCI-E link width 1. Also, you might be suffering from this (rare) problem: http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2141003&enterthread=y 2. When you say your 3DMark '06 score is low, what are your scores on the three subcategories (i.e. SM...
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    8800 GTS(G92) Noise?

    LOL I recently did something very similar. When my video server started making a horrible fan noise -- like a cheap VCR rewinding at high speed -- I went through all the trouble of replacing the CPU cooler only to find out that the little fan on the Radeon 9250 was clogged with dust. Too...
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    XEON E3110 $200.00 No Holla !! @Buy.com

    Any guess as to when this new stepping might come in? 1-2 weeks, maybe, or would it likely be longer?
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