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    AnandTech Forums - XenForo Feedback

    Just disappeared, but I was noticing Ken g6's symptoms. I'd guess I got sent to another Akamai host, or you all fixed it?
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    When is Intel going to take "budget overclocking" seriously?

    And that's ultimately the problem. A K-series chip right now is expensive enough that you're more likely to know what you're getting into, and there's not really a higher-end part that a reseller can claim your K-series part is. Low-end overclocking falls into the problem that Intel had in the...
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    Intel's Q2: Meh

    Keep in mind that there's literal 7" smartphones out there - they're not common, but they exist. And, when 6" smartphones aren't uncommon, a 7" tablet makes less sense.
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    Intel Speed Shift Technology... MIA?

    Where's the dividing line exactly, though? I'm almost wondering if Win10 isn't dividing it based on desktop (SKL-S) versus mobile (SKL-H in this case) CPU, but rather desktop (1) vs. mobile (2) ACPI FADT PreferredPowerManagementProfile? That would be one way that a BIOS update could enable it...
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    AMD Bristol/Stoney Ridge Thread

    Core m3's TDP is at 4.5 watts, though, versus an optimum TDP of 15 for these parts on the low end (and cTDPs down to 10 watts for Stoney Ridge). And, a cTDP-down Stoney would probably get destroyed by a Core m3, especially if you cTDP-upped the m3 to 7.5 watts, I suspect.
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    The Atom love-in / confession thread. Do you like Atom-based hardware?

    The Voyo's a knockoff of the Lenovo, it isn't actually a Lenovo as far as I know. (BTW, your URL got censored, but I figured it out anyway.)
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    [PCWorld] Intel kills the Atom line

    It's worth noting, however, that the rumored Surface Phone was never expected to be a Lumia. Idle power consumption would be the concern, though, and Skylake certainly wouldn't be able to do it - doesn't seem to throttle down enough. Kaby Lake, though? Who knows.
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    The Intel Atom Thread

    Willow Trail (the tablet Broxton part) would have had the same new core. And, the new core doesn't always have more performance. Williamette, early Prescott, and Bulldozer, anyone?
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    [PCWorld] Intel kills the Atom line

    Really, my understanding was that the Cherry Trail silicon was actually exactly the same silicon as Braswell, just better binned, fused differently, and with things (like SATA) not bonded out to the package. So, you could just sell the better binned, differently fused Apollo Lakes as Apollo Lakes.
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    [PCWorld] Intel kills the Atom line

    I was under the impression that Willow Trail was a Broxton variant, and is therefore also dead, and that Apollo Lake would be taking its place. (So, almost the same thing, but with Celeron/Pentium branding instead of Atom branding, and maybe with higher TDPs.) But, Apollo Lake, Braswell's...
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    [PCWorld] Intel kills the Atom line

    The thing is, server and mobile actually don't have that big differences in design requirements, as I understand, mobile just needing less cores, but with per-core power demands that aren't that different. (Yes, there's things like AVX-512, but I thought the units were still present, just...
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    The Atom love-in / confession thread. Do you like Atom-based hardware?

    I bought my WinBook TW700 with two things in mind. The first thing was simply to see how awful a $60 brand new computer would be, while also playing with Windows 8.1 on a tablet. The second thing was to use it for vehicle diagnostics, it being one of the few cheap tablets with a full-size USB...
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    Intel SoFIA & Broxton Killed

    The OP is claiming that they're giving up on Broxton tablets. (The question then becomes, is this meant to be tablet applications of the chip formerly known as Morganfield (which is the smartphone Broxton, comparable to Moorefield) - note that some Silvermont tablets were using Moorefield...
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    [Fool] Intel mobile gets another blow: Aicha Evans leaving

    Also, the smartphone Atoms aren't IBM compatible, so they can't run PC OSes. The tablet ones, OTOH, are. (But, some tablets used Moorefield, not Bay Trail, so they're stuck running Android.)
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    The Intel Atom Thread

    Windows 10 is OK on a 16 GiB eMMC if you're aggressive about storing everything you can on an SD card. The updates actually don't overwhelm it, because major updates effectively reinstall Windows, so winsxs never bloats too much. 8.1 is where you get problems, because WIMBoot causes winsxs...
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    Would you rather have a portable powered by Core M, or Atom? Why?

    30 lbs? Pfft, lightweight. My IBM 5155 is 34.8. (Granted, it's been made heavier by a bunch of cards and a hard drive, but...)
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    [help] Upgrading laptop CPU

    What brand and model is the laptop? You don't need AIDA64 to tell us that.
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    Zen APUs made by GloFo, 14nm FinFET node, and packaged by Amkor

    Well, there's the board footprint argument, especially with modern thin chassis where a second SODIMM takes up its entire footprint, rather than stacking with the first - if you can have a smaller board and more heatsink, you may well have better performance than a larger board and less...
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    Zen APUs made by GloFo, 14nm FinFET node, and packaged by Amkor

    Here's an idea for where HBM (or HBM2) could be used in an APU situation. Right now, an APU needs dual channel RAM to perform well - the single-channel ones get rather dire performance, and the OEMs are screwing AMD by using it and not offering dual-channel configurations by default. However...
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    m3/m5/m7 difference under sustained load?

    Actually, I take that back, it's higher MINIMUM TDP (as in, cTDP down). At 600 MHz, it's 3.8 W, where m5 and m7 are 3.5 W.
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    m3/m5/m7 difference under sustained load?

    m3 is higher TDP, too, so I'd expect it to throttle even sooner than my numbers would indicate.
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    m3/m5/m7 difference under sustained load?

    Another way to look at performance, BTW... Base clocks: Improvement over: Model m3-6Y30 m5-6Y5x m5-6Y5x 22% m7-6Y75 33% 9% 0.9, 1.1, and 1.2 respectively. Turbo clocks: Improvement over: Model m3-6Y30 m5-6Y54 m5-6Y57 m5-6Y54 23% m5-6Y57 27% 4%...
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    m3/m5/m7 difference under sustained load?

    I don't think NTMBK was saying that the m7 is processor lottery, I think they were saying that the m7 may be better binned than the m5, and that's how it would be faster. Unfortunately, looks like the only good way to test is to buy one of each in the same model, and compare in benchmarks.
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    Modern celeron or pentium faster than an amd x4?

    The only thing that would give me pause for a 10 year general computing build on a NUC is the fact that you'd have a 15 watt SKU AFAIK, and the lower base clocks that come along with it. Could be a problem with increasing JavaScript usage on the web. However, one of the smallest form factor...
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    Would you rather have a portable powered by Core M, or Atom? Why?

    Oh, fair enough, I was using SKL, not BDW. (I was using the same source for BSW/CHT.)
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    Modern celeron or pentium faster than an amd x4?

    http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/processors/desktop/athlon-ii# An Athlon II X4 can throttle. (For that matter, AFAIK, the last AMD CPUs that COULDN'T throttle were Athlon XPs.) Random shutdowns regardless of load are likely either a failing power supply or motherboard, I'd say, in that case.
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    Would you rather have a portable powered by Core M, or Atom? Why?

    But for Atom(-based) pricing, all you're getting is a Pentium 4405Y, which doesn't have turbo. (iGPU is better, though.) Well, it's a Skylake-Y. Not a Core M-branded product, but it's the same silicon and package. Citation needed. (I came up with approximately 96 mm^2 for the SKL-Y die, 53...
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    Would you rather have a portable powered by Core M, or Atom? Why?

    So, let's compare two chips at a similar price point and TDP, shall we? (I'll note that the Core M variant here appears to be a paper launch, but hey.) At $161 tray price and 6 watt TDP, you can choose between Pentium 4405Y (1.5 GHz 2C/4T Skylake, 24 Gen9 EUs at 300-800 MHz), or Pentium N3700...
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    Toying with the idea of "going big".

    Let's be fair, you can stick new GPUs in every few years. (I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happens with my 6600K build - I'll just upgrade the GPU every 2-4 years, and then a decade's past and I'm still on the same build.)
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    Educate me on the roadmap for Core M *** and U series now *** esp. Kaby Lake and later

    Based on Skylake, where the -Y (Core mx-6Yxx) SKUs were the same silicon as the -U (Core ix-6xxxU) SKUs, I'd be surprised if Kaby Lake doesn't follow that trend.
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    Holy ****. Xeon E5-2670s from decommissioned Facebook servers selling for $70 on EBay

    eBay tends to be very biased towards the buyer, let them try to resolve it.
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    Holy ****. Xeon E5-2670s from decommissioned Facebook servers selling for $70 on EBay

    In addition to X79, there's the C600-series chipsets - C602J, C602, C604, C606, and C608 - and the DH8900-series chipsets - DH8900, DH8903, DH8910, and DH8920. The boards that are going to be interesting for a gaming build are workstation boards, and are likely going to be X79, C602J, and C602...
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    Which x86 is the single-/dual-thread king?

    If you can get an i7-6700K or i7-7700K up to 5.1 GHz or higher, that. Otherwise, the rumored Xeon E5-2602 v4, at 5.1 GHz base clock. Of course, even if it does actually exist, there's rumors that it's a custom part for the National Security Agency, so money may not be able to buy it. Or, it may...
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    X86 or X64 ?

    There's also security implications to running 32-bit Windows (a lot of the enhanced security technologies are only available in 64-bit). The reasons that running 32-bit Windows is desirable are: Need to run 16-bit software (NTVDM only runs on 32-bit Windows) Need to run 32-bit drivers...
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    How can I speed up this crutch best? (Celeron J1800)

    When the battery's new, absolutely. However, in my experience, battery degradation is a big problem with ThinkPads, and always has been. But, then, seeing as we're talking about J1x00, which is the desktop CPU, even if the battery's totally dead, it'd be fine.
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    How can I speed up this crutch best? (Celeron J1800)

    OK, I'll retract my comment, I guess I was a bit outdated on what was off lease for around $200. Ivy Bridge in a laptop is nothing to sneeze at. (Granted, ThinkPad batteries being as bad as they are mean that you'll probably be forced to use it as a desktop, but still.)
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    How can I speed up this crutch best? (Celeron J1800)

    So, $450 for a J1800 with a HDD sounds like highway robbery. That said, my Z3735G-based tablet - with more cores, but much lower clock speed than a J1800 - is surprisingly usable. (Then again, it was $60, and I bought it almost as a joke, to see how bad a brand new $60 Windows device could be...
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