Standard Oil had a monopoly on fuel. If AMD had another fuel type, would it still be a monopoly?
A monopoly is when there is no other choice.
Times have changed, x86 isn't required anymore, so there is no x86 Intel monopoly.
Plain and simple.
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That's a poor analogy though as the fishing net implies it's the only means to catch the fish properly/efficiently.
AMD is zero limited to making CPU's. They are zero limited in making CPU's that run .NET business applications or another OS/Language. But they are limited selling Intel's...
A QUESTION TO ALL !!!
* DEFINE the MONOPOLY of MODERN BUSINESS COMPUTING
> Are busienss computing application driven by the hardware or the software? Like what is fundamental, the application software features or the hardware.
> Is x86 microprocessing a monopoly on running software...
I said at the time (of the itanium/years back). I also said times have changed.
Intel also has an opportunity to make a new CPU that will run .NET application better than x86 and that could be a cash cow for who ever does it first and wins the standards.
Goto go.
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Dream on.
I've heard it all before.. . ala the Amiga was so great, it was used to make Bab5 sci-fi, AMD is used by NASA and is used to make Starwars films. what a laugh.
Obviously there is someone out there using a IBM XT for accounting, that doesn't mean it's valid as a mainstream...
Mark whislt the THG stress were on, you were one of the people refusing to see the results. They were clear and you couldn't admit the X2 was a lemon. So you have little credit other than your fellow AMD teenage fan base that are willing to overlook truths.
People are buying Intel as it's...
AMD's complaints are mainly in mobile market. It a joke as no one wants AMD mobile chips, but they can't help to blame Intel for their woes.
AMD are cry-babies.
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No AMD is unable to have DDR2, it's not a choice, it's the point their hardware needs redesigning. They're trapped in old tech due to the CPU having the onboard memory controller and the socket design.
DDR2 is already as fast as the best DDR1 and it's as cheap or cheaper. DDR2 has a much...
I didn't see that. I saw the Intel 840EE cream the X2. It was only when the Intel was crippled (having it's HT turned off) that the AMD could get ahead.
Who's the troll.
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Anand site isn't a critical situation. They can afford to tinker with different equipment on a hobbyist level. A big corporation can't, they need stability and quality. Also they don't need two types of equipment.
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Why doesn't DDR2 count? I have an upgrade path with DDR2, I wouldn't with DDR1.
Nearly all Intel new boards in shops are latest tech. 80% of AMD boards still are AGP based.
Besides some gaming frame rates, AMD suck. Find me a bench test that doesn't included gaming results to show AMD...
What planet are you on. No the X2 isn't as good that the Intel 840EE. Also the X2 range is twice the price of Intels range.
Stop dreaming. AMD are marketing into someone else's market. You have you see that Intel has a right to say not to buy the imitation item.
Intel is not scared...
Sorry but that's your opinion that AMD are better CPU's. My recent upgrade, I chose not to buy AMD. If I had the same choice, I would also not buy AMD. Why? If I purchased AMD, I would be investing in a End-of-the-Road technology. Also I find Intel CPU?s are far better performers for...
The AMD are probably the better gaming CPU, but the Intel make better all rounders. Intel is also better for business in alot of ways. It's horses for courses. Dell are selling to professionals and they are happy to have a computer that is offical/defacto chipset, even if gaming fps are a...
If they did, then I agree with you, but the point I'm making is how is AMD limited?
It's like saying Intel as a monopoly on making white police cars. AMD can make anything they want but they are restricting themselves to trying to do the same white car Intel is making, so to speak.
I...
Maybe so for some features. but those AMD features can also be a restriction. Like AMD can't get DDR2 until they redesign the socket/mobo and MCU.
It's the likes of Dell that I also think are on the same wave length as me, see Intel as more future ready and solid as a professional buyers...
Maybe so but that doesn't say Intel is wrong to encourage all to buy their invention within their customer base.
Also like someone said from another site, AMD is currently selling their desktop CPU's at a higher price. It's not typical in a monopoly scenario that the so called victim will...
I would probably buy a AMD if they were totally unique.
Currently I don't buy AMD as I see them a clone maker. As in it's too easy for Microsoft to dev everything for Intel and then let AMD catch up. But like I said now, the .Net framework is changing everything, it's no longer x86...
Even though others are allowed to sell into Intel's market, Intel is still the inventor/designer of x86. They have perfect rights to say, 'Buy Their Defacto Design'.
*** The issue is, is there a monopoly on hardware that runs Microsoft's API's ??? ***
I would say now, no, as Microsoft's...
If you are aware of the x86 opcodes then you know they are all derivatives of the past set. The unique factor would be AMD's means to implement it in hardware.
Like I said I'm guessing as I haven't looked to what claims are out there by AMD and Intel, but I know that the x64 instructions...
It's not 'anyone product'. AMD has all the opportunities in the world to make a new CPU that is zero Intel x86 compatible.
As an example. I make an imitation Rolex(AMD). Rolex(Intel) can tell jewellery shops not to buy the fake Rolex, even if the imitation Rolex is better. The fact is...
I'm guessing from information I've noticed in past, but I don't think AMD has any rights to deny Intel from using EM64T. EM64T and AMD64 are both based on Intel's owned x86 specs/invention. Intel and AMD have an agreement to use each others' 64bit installment for the benefit of the customer...
Some points for readers to take in.
1. There USED to be a monopoly on hardware. That hardware was required to run the world's main operation systems, Microsoft Windows. The hardware was x86 and win32 compatible CPU.
2. AMD in a point in time, decided to clone/emulate another company's...
Isn't it smart to invest into future items?
Like in a years time if the said person upgrade his ddr2 to a faster freq or something, then his old memory is still a valid sale or reuse in another modern board. DDR1 will have little to no reuse value soon.
So invest in the future and buy...
The AMD market isn't based on firm standards, so you may be encountering an issue regarding motherboard drivers or market indifference.
1. Try to update all drivers.
2. See if there is enough v+amps on the USB port as too many USB items can exceed your motherboard's ability or PSU.
3. Use...
That's the point Intel has the technology now. DDR2 now, PCIe now, BTX now, SATAII now, etc..
If you buy a i955x based chipset motherboard you will have no worries using future items for the next few years. Intel looks to be the better CPU design for the coming years too.
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Totally agree.
The presscott cpu's are such great overclockers so I don't think Intel wants customers buying the low end and getting top end performance, a reason maybe why they disable features like HT in the low end of their product range.
We are still yet to know what priority level the...
The tests are kind of saying, for the price of two inbuild CPU's you get three. Hyperthreading is a great feature, especially when you consider the power use and grunt of the extra two pipes.
Having only 2 cpu pipes makes multitasking a problem, when comparing to a dual core CPU with...
Both are below 1.0, so it looks like the problem is the priority level and the way the divx encoding is processing. Early data would say they will both be neck and neck on the task.
The test now is to force the dvd-divx thread to a high priority and turn on HT on the Intel and see which CPU...
Yeah I agree. Most likely a context error in they way they worded the sentence, but sitll a bold claim. SLI not beating single GFX, is a bit hard to accept.
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Yeah they would have been nice to see how the load was being dished out on the INTEL CPU.
The next test they should do is force the AMD X2 to do the dvd-to-divx thread with HT turned back on the Intel 840EE.
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Note to all. the Intel system has had its mobo changed from the Asus to an Intel Ref board as the Asus couldn't have HT turned off. The problem with changing the board is that some readings for power etc, wont be displayed. So don't whine later about Intel faults at not displaying figures...
No both systems had single gfx card. it's a typing mistake in their sixth update. At the time the tests were going you could also only see one gfx card in the cam pic of the Intel system.
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Sales of servers with AMD's Opteron processor accounted for 5.7 percent of the 1.6 million unit x86 market. This was a slight improvement from the 5.4 percent market share Opteron...
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