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    Fry's $149 OTD mobo combo ECS Intel 848p Chipset, 2.4gHz P4 w/ 1mb cache (Prescott)

    I picked up one of these combos for $129.99 plus tax about a month ago in Texas. I didn't do much testing and I didn't try to overclock it. But one of the main things I noticed is that the CPU does run hotter than average: 54-55 degrees C at idle with the retail CPU cooler. What kind of results...
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    Opteron 242 OEM- $203 at the Egg

    Here is AMD's official processor pricing chart.
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    Opteron 242 OEM- $203 at the Egg

    $203 is a good price as it is. The new corporate price for quantity 1000 direct from AMD (effective May 6) is $209, so I wouldn't expect the price to drop any further in the near future. But who knows? Processor pricing is not alway consistent with AMD's corporate line.
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    BA Frys - Barton 2500+ oem + ECS nforce 2 ultra400 $84.99

    Naruto was talking about sale that took place on Wednesday and Thursday (the ad came out on Wednesday). It wasn't offered in the Dallas area. A new sale just started on Friday. There wasn't anything similar in Friday's ad, but more ads (good through Tuesday) will come out on Saturday, Sunday...
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    The truth behind rebates?

    Robor, I never said that problems don't exist, and that is certainly not the conclusion I have drawn from my experiences. I was just wondering why SO MANY people have problems when I've hardly had any. There's a big difference between "a few problems happen occasionally" and "every rebate offer...
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    The truth behind rebates?

    I don't understand why so many people have trouble getting their rebates. I received over $2000 worth of rebates last year and didn't have a problem with a single one of them. I've already received about $500 worth of rebates this year, and I'm waiting to receive about another $1000 worth, all...
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    BA Frys - Barton 2500+ oem + ECS nforce 2 ultra400 $84.99

    "Some"? How would you have purchased more than one when there's a limit of one per person? :)
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    frys, 2500 athlon retail + nforce2 $99

    Since it's Tuesday evening, I presume that this deal is over. But don't worry; Fry's has sales on CPU/mb combos every week. For example, over the weekend, my local Fry's had the following combos on sale: Athlon XP 2400+ (OEM) CPU w/ECS K7VTA3 motherboard $54.99 Athlon XP 2600+ (Retail Box)...
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    Kingston valuram 512 mg pc2700 $55 AR at BB

    Judging by the performance some people are reporting, I suspect that some of the unmarked/etched off chips might be Hynix "D43" chips. But I don't know of any way to identify them for certain.
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    Spectek 256MB DDR PC2100 $9.98AR

    Hey, we all make mistakes. Don't sweat it. :)
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    Kingston valuram 512 mg pc2700 $55 AR at BB

    I just tested a module that has Hynix "D43" chips on my Shuttle AN35N-Ultra motherboard. Memtest-86 reported 0 errors after 12 passes when it was set to 400MHz (2x200MHz, in sync with the processor bus) with timings set to 2-3-3-3 and voltage set to 2.6V. It was able to run at 440MHz...
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    Spectek 256MB DDR PC2100 $9.98AR

    I got another stick and tested it, and it didn't have any errors after twelve passes in Memtest-86 at 166MHz, so I figure I won't need to take it back. I voided the warranty by removing the second little sticker that was covering up the first little sticker, and guess what I found? The original...
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    2400+ 2500+ 2600+ Mobile Bartons back @ newegg

    Here's a followup to my previous tests. I replaced the AeroCool fan on my CPU cooler with the original ThermalTake variable-speed fan. That way, I can either run my CPU at "slow" speeds with a quiet fan speed or run my CPU at high speeds with better (and louder) air cooling. It makes testing a...
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    2400+ 2500+ 2600+ Mobile Bartons back @ newegg

    Only if the Thorton I mentioned actually exists. I saw it on a roadmap that might have been wrong; perhaps what it was calling a "Thorton" is actually one of the Thoroughbreds. But I did confirm the existence of the three versions of the 2600+ I listed in my second post. Again, I apologize for...
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    (Updated: price drop in B&M) Pacific Digital 4x dual DVD±RW Drive for $22.50 in-stores AR at Staples

    Yes, you have to cut a piece out of the box with the sticker on it and send that in. Or, if you're very careful, you can score the box with a razor blade or a sharp knife and peel the top layer of cardboard off of the box without cutting all the way through it, if you follow me.
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    2400+ 2500+ 2600+ Mobile Bartons back @ newegg

    After doing some searching, I found a site that sells a processor that seems to match yours, with the model number AXDA2600DKV3D. It has a 333MHz (2x166) FSB and 256k of L2 cache, and it runs at 2083MHz. But it's a Thoroughbred, not a Barton. (NewEgg sells it.) The specs I listed previously...
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    2400+ 2500+ 2600+ Mobile Bartons back @ newegg

    Bartons from 2500+ to 2800+ have a 333MHz (2x166) FSB. The 3000+ and 3200+ have a 400MHz (2x200) FSB. Mobile Athlons have a 266MHz (2x133) FSB by default, but since the multiplier is unlocked, you can try running it at a lot of different FSB speeds and multipliers if your motherboard lets you...
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    2400+ 2500+ 2600+ Mobile Bartons back @ newegg

    9.5x200MHz=1900MHz 1.45V Vcore (stock voltage) 41 degrees C at idle 51 degrees C under Prime95 stress-test (6 hour test) NOTE: The room temperature is about 80 degrees F now, which is about 4 degrees higher than it was when I did my earlier tests (because I've been running stress tests...
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    Spectek 256MB DDR PC2100 $9.98AR

    I just tested a SpecTek "-6A" module with Memtest-86. It got 112 errors in three passes at 133MHz. Not good. The chip date is the same as yours (0306). That must have been a bad week. The test computer I'm using has an Athlon XP 2600+ and an ECS K7VTA3 (a combo from Fry's Electronics). When I...
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    2400+ 2500+ 2600+ Mobile Bartons back @ newegg

    I just did a test with my Athlon XP-M 2500+ (Week 52 2003): 11x167=1838MHz (same as Athlon XP 2500+) 1.40V Vcore (3% below stock voltage) 39 degrees C at idle (20 minutes after running stress-test) 47 degrees C under Prime95 stress-test (6 hour test)
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    2400+ 2500+ 2600+ Mobile Bartons back @ newegg

    Which settings would you like to see? I did a test to see if my CPU can run at 2000MHz (10x200MHz) at stock voltage. I tried it immediately after doing a Prime95 stress-test, so the chip was "warmed up". Unfortunately, it wouldn't boot at 1.45V. It did boot at 1.55V, but I didn't do any...
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    2400+ 2500+ 2600+ Mobile Bartons back @ newegg

    Assuming that your motherboard can run a Mobile Athlon (not all of them can), you would probably get a lower CPU temp at stock speeds. Look at it this way. A normal Athlon XP 2600+ can be expected to generate about 68W of thermal energy. But an "Athlon XP-M 45W" (that's the formal name) can be...
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    Kingston valuram 512 mg pc2700 $55 AR at BB

    I probably bought the same memory you did. I mailed in the rebate on March 30 and received my rebate check on April 15, which was a pleasant surprise. Hopefully you'll receive yours soon. On a general note, I just bought a couple of the Kingston ValueRAM 512MB PC2700 modules. I was able to...
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    Spectek 256MB DDR PC2100 $9.98AR

    On a sidenote, I just looked at a PNY Optima 512MB PC2700 module I bought a few weeks ago, and the board actually has the name SpecTek on it. (It uses Samsung chips.) So let's see... Micron owns SpecTek, SpecTek uses Samsung chips, and PNY sells SpecTek modules. Apparently, there's a lot...
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    Spectek 256MB DDR PC2100 $9.98AR

    I picked up a couple of the SpecTek 256MB "PC2100" modules at a local OfficeMax yesterday. They are actually identical to a couple of SpecTek 256MB "PC2700" modules that I bought from Best Buy last month. They use Samsung (not Micron) chips with the following markings: S80032VMCTW -6A...
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    2400+ 2500+ 2600+ Mobile Bartons back @ newegg

    Interitus, You said, "I was going to purchase one to run it at 1.45v at stock speed sheerly for the lower heat and ability to run very slow and quiet HSF's on them," and that's exactly why I bought a Mobile Athlon. :) The way I see it, even if I'm using a great CPU cooler, I still want to...
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    Hitachi 160gb - AR $79.99 - Bay Area Fry's

    I don't mean to be contentious, but the Hitachi Deskstar 7K250 is not the same as the IBM DeskStar 180GXP. One spec might be enough to convince you: the 180GXP series has 60GB platters, while the 7K250 series has 83GB platters. If that's not enough, the controller circuitry is also different...
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    WD 80gb Hard Drive 19.99 @ Office Max - after mail in rbt

    If you're talking about the deal that was offered some time around Christmas, then I had the same problem. I received the rebate check from Kingston in about three weeks, but I'm STILL waiting for my rebate check from OfficeMax. Here's the thing. OfficeMax is REALLY good about rebates. If you...
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    Hitachi 160gb - AR $79.99 - Bay Area Fry's

    Hitachi did acquire IBM's hard drive manufacturing operations, but Hitachi has made their own refinements to the manufacturing process. So in a sense, if you buy an Hitachi DeskStar 7K250 series, you really are buying an Hitachi hard drive. I'm not really sure what their track record is at this...
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    2400+ 2500+ 2600+ Mobile Bartons back @ newegg

    Well, the AN35 will support a large cooler, but it won't support the SLK-948U, which is designed for Athlon 64/FX and Pentium 4 processors. :) Picture an 80mm cooling fan. The base of the heatsink could be 80mm from the front of the CPU socket to the back, and the fins could be about 100mm wide...
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    2400+ 2500+ 2600+ Mobile Bartons back @ newegg

    I didn't realize that a processor with a 200MHz FSB would run hotter at the same speed than a processor with a 166MHz FSB. In other words, I figured that a processor would dissipate the same amount of heat at the same speed regardless of the FSB speed. I'll have to try it for myself. :) As for...
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    Micro Advantage & Cendyne 4x DVD+/- DVD Burners $49 @ OM

    I haven't seen the MicroAdvantage drives. (Are they re-badged NEC drives?) But the Cendyne/NEC drives clearly state the model number (in fine print) on the back of the box. You can also find the model number on the drive itself--there's a big label on the top of the drive. If you have already...
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    2400+ 2500+ 2600+ Mobile Bartons back @ newegg

    I'm not an expert, but I concur. Synchronous buses = the best way to go, and damage to your chipset = bad. :) About those memory spot prices: the latest "buzz" is that memory manufacturers are having trouble meeting demand, so memory prices will probably rise in the near future. Usually we...
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    2400+ 2500+ 2600+ Mobile Bartons back @ newegg

    You're welcome, Serpentor. I think it would be okay to use PC2100 memory in your system. I can run my PC3200 at a variety of different speeds, so I assume that you could run your PC2100 RAM at a variety of speeds as well. You can change your memory bus speed by percentage increments...
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    Micro Advantage & Cendyne 4x DVD+/- DVD Burners $49 @ OM

    Some people will disagree with me if they have had a bad experience with a drive, but I have found that Top-G makes good drives, whether they are CD-ROM, CD-RW, or DVD-ROM. (I don't have any experience with their DVD burners.) I've bought over 50 of them in the last three years (mostly CD-ROM...
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    2400+ 2500+ 2600+ Mobile Bartons back @ newegg

    If you don't want to wade through all of my lengthy comments above, :) here's some information that might be useful to you. I highly recommend the Shuttle AN35(N)-Ultra. You can buy it from NewEgg for $69.00 shipped or maybe even cheaper somewhere else. You can use either single-channel or...
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    2400+ 2500+ 2600+ Mobile Bartons back @ newegg

    I bought an Athlon XP-M 2500+ from NewEgg a few weeks ago and tried it on two different motherboards. The first one was a Gigabyte GA-7S748-L, which to put it simply didn't work with the Mobile Athlon. The BIOS couldn't recognize the CPU, so it defaulted to a 12x CPU multiplier and a 100MHz FSB...
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    Micro Advantage & Cendyne 4x DVD+/- DVD Burners $49 @ OM

    If you missed out on this deal, you shouldn't feel too bad. I bought a Cendyne (NEC) ND-1100A a couple of weeks ago during the last big clearance sale. If I'm not mistaken, it's nearly identical to the ND-1300A, so I assume that the performance (not media compatibility) is about the same. The...
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