I still bounce back and forth between Intel and AMD. I favor no one because I go for best bang for the buck. But it would appear AMD is going to be the majority of my machines over the next 12-18 months or even longer because I dont see Intel competing anytime soon. Even if they could get...
From the reading correct me if I am wrong but An AMD 2.2 D0 Stepping model is 6% faster in calculations than a 2.2ghz 13 micron cpu? Thats just SuperPi! But the additional enhancements may get 6% across the boards.
A little math and I came up with a 3.3Ghz Opteron being capable once the 9...
Thankyou. I started a thread or rant yesterday about the lack of benchmarks for a new cpu release even if they could only provide 32 bit ones.
As I understand it the next opteron core is getting the following.
DDR2 Support
SSE3 Support
Improved branch Prediction
I also thought AMD was...
Were not a dell house and I would like to compare it to a Opteron DL585 from Compaq/HP. Would give me more power in buying the opterons over intel based servers. You know the generalized rule that mangers are stupid people. so if intel makes a 64bit x86 cpu it must be the best. Cough Cough...
I have purchasing power input on the server side. I called my local rep (Compaq/HP) for a test system but they have no planned date when/if one will be available. Understandable but unaccepable that there are no sites reviewing the CPU.
This tells me Intel's 64bit x86 cpu a very poor...
here is another thing. WHERE ARE ALL THE IN DEPTH ARTICLES of the processor and its capabilities?
Whenever anyone releases a video card chip everyone analyzes the information and draws speculation to what can be expected or seen in the new chip when the time comes. NOTHING.
For god sakes...
OK the chip is not broken so the problem is what?
Why are there are no benchmarks and overclocking results in 32 bit? Despite it should be the same as XEON or PRESCOTT NOBODY HAS STATED THIS WITH BENCHMARKS? WHAT GIVES?
I thought it was a prescott with 64bit instructions working? Not Xeon...
Has anyone posted benchmarks of Nocona in 32 bit mode? I understand the lack of 64 bit benchmarks but where are the 32 bit benchmarks at the least? Or is that broken as well? A side effect of the 915 chipset? This is really a bad product launch.
Couldnt one just printout a part of the manual to a sticky page? Nice of them to offer it though. With soft jumpers in bios Im not sure its needed today.
Zebo The thread title is the same as the article. I tried to find how I could change it but couldnt find it anywhere. Little Help Anyone? Beuller? Beuller?
I guess Xbit should have stated ASUS drops Manufacturing Motherboards for Intel.
Zebo what should I change it to?
Where how do I change it?
I dont think ASUS would drop full Intel chip sales because Intel still sells more chips. I cant see asus dropping out of cashing in on the Intel mobo sales. Especially since they are one of the best mobo makes out there.
But it is...
I will probably get in trouble for posting this in the motherboard section also but this really effects CPU's as well.
To me this is huge since I buy 90% of all my motherboards from ASUS. I bought one Epox in the last 10 machines I built.
I think Nocona in the end will help AMD get recognition.
Both AMD and Intel benefit from AMD gaining some market share.
AMD needs the dollars to survive.
Intel needs AMD so they arent a monopoly.
Although I cant recommend anyone buying a Nocona because of what I hear and see on Linux...
I expected something more from Nonoca. Like it to work. This is still the sorriest product launch ever. Apple can Mock Intel for this. Even Cyrix/VIA can possibly mock this launch. This was very dissapointing.
I do own an Athlon 64 3500 overclocked and Nonoca was a surprise to me it was...
Some NDA's dont allow you to discuss problems encountered. I would believe its the reason behind those who recieved test systems but dont have benchmarks out.
I even know of a few products your not allowed to discuss on released products because of contracts.
Talking DVD Shrink there are many factors involved.
1. How much of a shrink is being done determines how long it will take
2. If you have it analyze the data first to determine the best possible ratio will easily double the time to re-encode.
Most take about 20 mins. But then it only takes...
General DVD Encoding I favor the Intel P4. 99.9% of everyone out there.
The difference between the P4 and the Athlon XP are go to be either one will be done in the morning.
HDTV Encoding I Significantly Favor AMD64.
This has to be the sorriest product launch ever.
I'm reading of System Crashes and Inability to complete a benchmarking application being the reason for the lack of Benchmarks. Wouldnt they have provided pre-installed machines for testing?
Would Intel do this on purpose to allow AMD to gain...
I wonder how well it will do playing back WMV9.
3.8 is enough to play WMV9 at 1080P but if it performs like a 2.8 then its just short of the 3Ghz needed.
How is heat? I would consider this for a small VCR style case PC for the living room but might just get an Athlon 2400 again and OC.
I asked if the codec is SMP but it being friday I dont expect a reply. Also I cant afford a dually right now. The system isnt even a month old. The wife would kill me.
But that doesnt stop me from trying to get a DL585 for testing at work. He He He.
WOW. If thats true I cant fathom the performance a K9 dual core would do. Also that would put my Theory on Itanium being a threat is 5 years to shame. I take it Intel is aware of this and I wonder what they will do to try to reclaim the crown.
Where can I find more on K9?
I would also like...
Nice points everyone especially Cerb.
Thanks everyone for correcting me on SMT's existance.
YES I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR ABOUT K9 more importantly its release date. I wonder how the power will do in referece to a DUAL core K8.
I too am leaning a bit toward AMD these days proably because my...
I do belive the longer pipelines are a problem for the CPU. Thats why I would rather see a shrunken P4 over the prescott with longer pipelines. I dont think we will see a benefit to the longer pipelines until the prescott processor reaches around 4Ghz where it can really start to utilize a...
bobbyk I was unware there are SSE3 Instructions in the 939 opteron. Is this true?
Simply why cant AMD come up with thier own instructions instead of waiting to see what Intel adds?
I wish that were true bobbyk.
SOI has less current leakage than strained silicon however there is a electron tunnelling effect where the electrons can change state. I read about it a few week back. Trying to find the article might have been the Inq. Not sure if AMD will have this problem but...
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I just hate to see AMD crumble to Intel for not pushing the envelope. For years AMD had to adopt Intel technology with MMX SSE etc. 3Dnow never took off. With AMD being ahead of Intel causes Intel to drop prices because AMD cant compete with Cheap CPU's. AMD still makes all thier...
If you read the source files on the x86 64bit windows OS disk its funny because it reference the Itanium all over the place.
Anyone with a copy of Windows 64 can easily verify this.
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For the millions time Its under NDA. No company in their right mind allows benchmarks of a BETA Application on a BETA OS.
I said it about 2-3times faster than my p4 and 4 times faster than my athlon xp. What more do you want.
Let me add my 5 year outlook on Itanium and why AMD needs to look into addressing this future problem now. This is 1 reason AMD has to innovate X86 64 or design something on the side.
Yes Itanium is a serious threat. Not today but several years from now.
Itanium is a great CPU despite is...
If an Itanium were to be able to run at 3Ghz it would smoke and Opteron. Unfortunatly for Intel at Itaniums current speed the Opteron can outrun it now. Like I said it was a gamble for Intel and unfortunatly AMD played a bigger hand. AMD had COST, UPGRADABILITY FROM EXITING, EVENTUALLY...
LTC8K6
Wrong Thread and Yes I do. There is an NDA involved. I fear the NDA I signed more than getting a few brownie points with a benchmark comparison. I also enjoy being a beta tester. Even if I left the names off I would then be bombarded with What program. If I get my hands on a Xeon64 I...
Sounds like the 219 limit was the RAM and not the CPU or Mobo to me. Could still be more than 1 items though.
Try upping the voltage on the ram and try again.
Why not spend 50.00 and get a faster CPU and overclock that instead. As long as your motherboard will handle it. This Should allow you to go even higher and allow you to run it with lower cooling making it even quieter. You already have a good overclock on that chip I suspect you wont get...
Does anyone else think with all the Imrovements Intel made to the Celeron that they should finally have cosidered changing the name. After several generations of celerons all being dawgs and it finally having some nuts I still dont think after hearing the name celeron will get anyone I know to...
Not so 3DNOW is a rip off of MMX. MMX existed before 3D NOW.
Also some of you need to read my first sentence in the beginning of the thread.
This is my pure speculation and I have nothing to base it upon except general reading of Nocona information found around the web which isnt much to go...
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