Nehalem was demoed in a 2-socket class motherboard using Tylersburg chipset as per in IDF. So two that was highlight during the demo. The health of Nehalem which is 3 weeks old and their new Tylersburg chipset.
No news on desktop in IDF
yes something like 3DNow. I love AMD to participate in any of this development initiatives but naming SSE5? tsk tsk tsk
And why cant they have this backward compatible? It will be very very confusing to software developers. Likewise if Intel will release SSE5 before AMD now what?
what if Intel will release SSE5 in Nehalem processor? I gues they will have since its a new architecture..... My take SSE is already for Intel although they are open standard. AMD should name it otherwise and prove to the industry that what they develop is worthwhile. This is to avoid confusion...
why is AMD blaming Intel as always when they are having problems on their execution? Like this one
``If we're going to implement an asset light strategy, I don't know if we can have sole ownership of anything,'' he said when asked if Advanced Micro will continue to be the only owner of its...
I wonder how will Henri Richards react on this? He's so quiet lately unlike when AMD had its best time. He would always comment against Intel every often. :D
I seriously believe that there is a problem with Barcelona. I tend to agree with Anand that AMD's excuses of not giving any information/benchmarks is because thay dont want Intel to react. Why would they give preview of their mobile processor where they should have done it with Barcelona? Last...
not to be bias with Intel or AMD but honestly AMD is also using flawed benchmarks in their website when comparing Core vs Athlon. I'm not sure whether someone here notice it.
I've been reading most of your post Viditor and I'm almost certain that you tend to side more or bias to AMD than with Intel although making PD of owning Intel stocks doesn't change with what our views here.
Anyway, I think eventhough Penryn doesn't have any architectural improvement vs C2D...
Another advantage on Intel is its 45nm is socket compatible with current mobo. Although AMD quad is also socket compatible, I think they need new mobo to fully exploit its potentials like the PLL per core etc etc. Its an interesting battle come 2H. We know Penryn core's only survival is if it...
I've read that AMD got a substantial market share increase in Mobile processor front vs Intel. I'm somewhat puzzled since product per product what Intel are offering right now is pretty good as compared to Turion or other mobile derivative of AMD. How can this be? The way I see fom review, some...
In my opinion AMD got really really lazy when they had the K8 lead. Come to think of it, they have around 3 years of uncontested lead and they just thought Intel is sitting around. They must have anticipated then that Intel will release new architecture which they have design newer architecture...
You know I dont buy this AMD marketing promise which buy 4x4 now because they are upgradeable to quad core in the future. What does that mean throw away the 2 CPU I have in 6 to 7 months?
Do you think FSB/Direct connect do have merit or purely marketing scheme? I ask because AMD is stil hyping the said advantage wherein Intel clearly shown that they can still push FSB above its current performance as in the case or C2D. AMD still hyping it again in Quad FX which shows no...
That's what I initially concluded but when I read and watched the video, somehow they are showing is an MP system :D. For me I think they should have compared this with Tulsa and project more that 100% increase as Tulsa is still a netburst derivatives. This makes me think that Tulsa is really...
No problem I do that as always as you do....
Although these are preliminary but for me these numbers are not very impressive as compared to the preliminary data being showed when Intel previewed C2D.
They are quad to quad but Barcelona being used for these benchmarks are MP system as what AMD is trying to show and clearly 16 cores in task manager. 53xx series are quad core BUT on DP system. That is why I'm trying to clear whether my understanding is correct or not. If my assumptions are...
Yeah its all marketing but its all up to us to figure whether they are correct or not. I've seen AMD website benchmarks comparison that shows C2D lags in all front. This is another classic example that they are showing incorrect data, UNLESS I'm wrong.
Woodcrest from 3rd party sites is a...
Thanks anandtechrocks. This is what I'm confused with. 5335 is a DP while Barcelona is an MP system 70% and 40% is something I think incomparable because they are 2 different systems. Although these are clovertown already but using 2 sockets vs 4 sockets for barcelona. I was kinna expecting more...
Have you guys watch the keynote in AMD website? AMD is projecting something like 70% anfd 40% in some benchmarks. I noticed though is they are comparing it to Intel Xeon 5300 which isn't it that Barcelona is an MP processor? Plus noticed that Xeon 5100 series were bested by AMD 2000 Opteron...
Well I guess the very obvious benefit of quad core processors are multitasking and of course performance boosts for threaded optimised apps. For games of which most are not yet threaded (mostly), benefit can still be realized by running more than 2 or 3 apps while playing without slowing the...
Back to topic.....
I agree with you guys.... AMD is resorting to this native and non-native design word war. Point is they lost the time to market delivery of quad core.... It sthe same when they released the 64 bit capability. To be honest, I think Intel is correct that industry (client...
I dont see anything wrong if your quad core is glued or native. What matters are all performance and performance per watt. If Intel can make true of their promise, 70% increase for Kentsfield vs current extreme and 50% for Clovertown vs current High end Xeon, who would not want these?
Lets...
Isn't it that they are winning on UP and DP? MP is I think where they are not competitive right now but IBM in IDF submitted the a new record for TPC-C for Tulsa.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Is woodcrest is less superior the socket F opteron?
Believe or not Intel first native-quad is rumored to be on second half of 2007. Whether AMD can release their native quad first of Intel it will only close the gap on glued quad.
Intel is really bend on not giving any room for AMD now
Just wann know your opinion on this. AMD is really killing all Intel hype on quad core saying its not an elegant design. For me as long as it delivers sunbstantial performance boost (70% for desktop and 50% for servers) I dont care how they implement it as long as price is attractive. Intel is...
eventhough if AMD wins the all benchmarks for their 4x4, I think they are still not the winner since those 4x4 are compose of 2 CPU. Yes intel uses 2 conroes for their Quad but still it is quad core as compared to 2-socket, 2-cpu. Funny how AMD criticize intel for their quad approach.
All...
One thing I noticed is that AMD gets the power numbers by adding the TDP of each components. Yes Intel numbers will be bigger but I think the real score would be numbers coming from the wall which Intel shows the strength now. This is also pointed out by the writer of the article
is it true that pentium is crap compared to apple-to-apple AMD counterpart when you factor price/performance/watt?
I saw THG chart seems pentium and pentiumD is not that bad after all.....
AMD says the their quad core have taped already..... and say they actually built this to silicon then its possible.... but for sure it has lots of bugs.....
question willbe is this a K8L already?
As far as I can remember, Intel stocks didn't have a decent rise when conroe/woodcrest/merom were launched. It stayed pretty the same levle. Do yuo guys believe Intel's financials today isn't that attractive to merit a rise to its stock? If Intel can continue to steal market share from AMD up to...
I sincerely doubt AMD can will be able to release 45nm 18 months after their 65nm. I just dont know wheter they have that enough resources though we know IBM and AMD are working together on this. We haven't seen any 65nm working....
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