What makes you think this has the mobile core?
mobile cores do not have a heat spreader
what are you going to use for a HSF without a heat spreader?
check the numbers- most likely just a regular chip
which is good
Northwood better than XP??? say what??
not dollar for dollar for total system cost at equal performance level (for apps I'm involved with)
a bonus was that xp was cooler and quiter at same performance level
or to put it another way
for equal $$$ you got more "performance" with the xp
use a divider on your ram- this takes it out of the equation and makes little difference on performance
make sure you reduced hypertransport and have serial ata drives on correct ports for your motherboard- check with a motherboard forum
you are at the speed where these two items catch the...
Oh happy days
the Incrediably gay duo
saved by superheros
Pentium -M- and Core all descendents of Pentium and especially Pentium Pro > PIII
all P4 did was waste a lot of resources, time and contribute to global warming
good idea- too bad we could not pull it off
who'd a thunk about all of...
Overclocking Athlon 64 FX-57
Nordic Hardware
http://www.nordichardware.com/Reviews/?page=1&skrivelse=447
"We hope that we have given you a well documented insight of how a CPU is affected by different types of cooling devices and what increases in performance you can expect. Partly with an...
latency is a big factor
measured delay in nanocycles instead of clock cycles ddr2 533 is about a wash with ddr400
(comparing equilivant memory classes budget vs budget etc)
you have to go to DDR2 600 to see any real gain 300 memory bus should be no problem
big advantage of DDR2 is that...
Iran kontrabass by any chance?
very technically you are correct- if money did not matter
however for the price of a raptor you can get a couple of fast 7,200 rpm drives and set them up in raid 0 or 1 depending on your needs
If you are thinking of two raptors you can get 5 7,200 rpm drives and...
Bang for you buck
a 3800X2 will also overclock to the range you are suggesting for the 4400
AMD has two cpu cores on the same die
INtel has two seoearte dies on the same substrate connected with a FSB
the AMD crossbar between the cores in the same die is much quicker in real life when...
DEvil's advocate here
Do It
if
you have some ddr400 memory- a must
you can score a 3200 xp from one of these guys who just upgraded- there's lots of them
I just scored a xp-M think I'm not going to stick it into a box somewhere?
take some of that expensive ram sitting around and use that...
I'd say IMHO keep the memory you have unless you are being paid by the hour and some specific application benefits from the faster or quickedr memory and pays back in your valuable time saved
also consider the moe memory vs faster memory question depeding on your application mix
many times...
DFI Street overclocking guide is still being updated and is a good read
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12960&page=1&pp=15]http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12960&page=1&pp=15[/L]
Methinks that the SSEIII instructions are rom macros
placeholders for hardware acceleration which could be added later, if required
perhaps a litttle tweek after going to 65gum
Hi Lithan
I have several pcp&C silencer ATX 400 Watt units
They are basically the same as the 510 watt Turbo-Cools with different fans
(these are last series models not current production)
As you noted power supply tests can be rigged by the temperature of the test area and case cooling...
Former technical chair of a power supply trade show speaking here
Tom's may screw up stress tests but their methodology in their power supply tests is way above the usuall "testimonial" type reviews
I'm not intereste in fan boys "I have one and it works just fine" comments. These systems are...
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2497&p=3
Athlon 64 X2: New Memory Dividers and Multitasking Performance
Multitasking with Adobe Photoshop CS
The end result is far more tangible this time around, with DDR480 completing the Photoshop task in 6.5% less time than the same...
Did we ever find out if he has the MB?
754 only
hot 754's are dirt cheap on ebay from those moving to 939
266 ram will work just fine even oc'ed with a divider (266) however even with a 1/2 (200) divider his oc will be limited to ONLY 33%
so he could hit 2.6 with several cpu's. 2.4 more...
I do not see a flame ware here just a discussion among gentelmen
check out the Lost Circuits tests referenced in this thread
http://www.amdzone.com/index.php?name=P...1&sid=232903e6bff51fa12f80b6ab17d5f40e
for another slant
chinkgai
try reducing your voltage a little bit at a time and...
Ah So
did you go from 1mb to 2 mb total and did it make any difference in which apps?
methinks the extra ram ( if that is the case) offsets the speed difference
do you run any apps which actually benefit from mega bandwith and not tight timings?
good info sort of mimics what the Athlon...
yes voltage can do damage without high measured temps
high voltages can cause high temps at the individual transistor level which would not be seen by the average- outside the die- temp probe
BVVC
Did you see any change with the VC changes you made? Is your VC reading accurate?
I mentioned...
Smooshieus
drop down and post this in the motherboard forum
could be bios or??? voltage??? heatsink compound???, case cooling excellent??
you are going to need some specific help on this one
you might see what happens with x10 and x9 sometimes that helps with diagnosis
when you are...
Check the basics
Ht to 3T if over 250 bus (HTT) disired
memory divider looks like 333 or 5/6 or 2/3 should work depending on your board
get your memory below the max you listed- prefer down to around ddr 400 (200 bus ) with divider i.e. 250 cpu needs 4/5 divider or "166" or 333
300...
He'll never see the difference while web surfing or e-mail especially on dial-up
Is he using office? word?
If he was doing encoding go with the faster squirl cage
If doing real work go with the P2
Do both use the same memory? same bus speed 66 or 100 or 133?
if using excell the P2 for...
Not just same brand but same part number = yes (but see below)
same brand and with same chips but different part number answer is= most likley
if timing is different use lowest
same brand but different technology might as well be different brand not for me
then you would be better off with...
socket changes
sunny day
do I detect tougn in cheek here?
my take- Dirt cheap socket 754 in refirb market and e-bay from thoie who just have to have a dfi 939 sli extreme
and socket 754 oc like crazy
recent poster got motherbord, cpu, cooler i.e. everything he needed to move from socket...
Mysteryozo why did you post in this thread
anyway remove the stickers no more lifetime warranty
just use a fan
I have yet to see add on heat spreaders or even the factory ones buy much- prove me worng
post up in the memory forum - scroll down--
wyrmrider
good advice xrest
getting a good deal on the 3400??
gameboyzz what hard drive?
how is your oc going
lot's of people have oced that combo- do some research
wyrmrider
good advice xrest
getting a good deal on the 3400??
gameboyzz what hard drive?
how is your oc going
lot's of people have oced that combo- do some research
wyrmrider
not worth paying any $$$ to make the change if that is your question
in some apps the higherclock rate will rule- these are the ones Intel also does well in- I call em Squirll Cage apps, it's how fast the wheel spins monving simple things from point a to point b
for heavy lifting the 3500...
after you check for stability run the benchmark on your game(s) of choice
which are???
post back
in general cpu speed wins unless it's real close
what is your memory speed, fsb etc
what bios
any other tweeks?
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