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    official veggie gardener's thread

    I have two 8'x20' tiered sections in the backyard. This year, I have 8 different types of tomato, cauliflower, beans, asparagus (first year), watermelon, cantaloupe, a bunch of arugula (I make a great simple vinaigrette for them), sweet basil, lemon thyme, thyme, oregano, flat parsley, mint and...
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    Do you like 67 pesticides with your celery?

    Having fun yet? If this is the therapy you need, please by all means continue. Whenever you feel you've reached victory, please let me know and I'll offer a final concession just so you can get that winning feeling.
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    Do you like 67 pesticides with your celery?

    Better than sprays, imo. Sprays can kill off otherwise helpful natural predators that can introduce further problems down the road. I use BT on occasion since the caterpillars just get ridiculous. I've also found great success with creating little habitats for spiders, especially on tomato...
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    Do you like 67 pesticides with your celery?

    Thank you CycloWizard for your continued contribution. I know I feel enlightened, for your impenetrable rationality is one to which we can all esteem. In other words, find another thread to shit on. You're a disgrace to the quality of discourse, but if that's how you get your jollies then...
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    Do you like 67 pesticides with your celery?

    Certainly I can understand that. I don't think it will ever be possible for the FDA to fully regulate the market, and I would hope they wouldn't have to. I would think that people who lambaste the organic movement or anything similar to it would encourage the market for innovating...
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    Do you like 67 pesticides with your celery?

    I agree with that completely. I also know that some folks tend to use it as a status thing, like shopping at Whole Foods suddenly makes you trend or hip. I was eating "organics" long before the term was mainstream. Where I grew up, getting fresh produce from local farmers was a trip we'd...
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    Do you like 67 pesticides with your celery?

    Then we'll stop there. Thanks for playing.
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    Do you like 67 pesticides with your celery?

    Hey, I'll keep playing. I think one of my last posts captured it exactly: All other things being equal, no one would argue that they'd like to have pesticides on their food. Honest question: How do you respond to the countless failures by the FDA and companies that produce goods later...
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    Do you like 67 pesticides with your celery?

    I'm not sure where I really offered a conflation of fact and opinion, but I might be wrong. I'm making no position on whether I think organics is better than not. I'm merely saying I prefer to have nothing on my produce if at all possible, and that's just my preference. I said that...
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    Do you like 67 pesticides with your celery?

    I think the key is "I baby my garden"; after all, that's the promise of organics. Well, at least that *was* the promise. Not all organics taste better though, and increasingly I find the taste delta to be less attractive and so I find myself more often than not at the farmer's markets. Not...
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    Do you like 67 pesticides with your celery?

    You pretty much toted the line that I was talking about in my first post. My basic contention is that I don't need a link, nor do many people (arguably a rapidly increasing demographic of people: http://www.ota.com/organic/mt/consumer.html). To CycloWizard's point, yes, this could be...
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    Do you like 67 pesticides with your celery?

    Yes, neem oil gets used in my garden. Georgia has a terrible time with caterpillars that eat up my plants in what seems like a couple of days. I'm also big on creating ways for spiders and other natural predators to work in the garden. It takes a little more effort, and still I'm sure my...
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    Do you like 67 pesticides with your celery?

    Son of a ! I have brandywines in the backyard right now. My plants were "organic" though if that makes a difference... Still, I'm less concerned about that. I know what I put on my plants (no sprays).
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    Do you like 67 pesticides with your celery?

    Yep, that's a good argument. Still, I think some things are a matter of preference and don't necessarily need justification. I like German cars and I love spicy food. Why? I don't know. I don't think German cars are necessarily safer, and I also own a Toyota even with all of the latest...
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    Do you like 67 pesticides with your celery?

    Delicious with wings and some blue cheese, but for me that's about it :)
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    Do you like 67 pesticides with your celery?

    1) This was done *after* washing the veggies and still had the residue 2) I've heard that, but I find this a bit interesting. I'm not making this a political issue, but it seems that conservatives are primarily opposed to reform of our agricultural methods. Yet, when it comes to the argument...
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    Do you like 67 pesticides with your celery?

    Just saw this on CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/06/01/dirty.dozen.produce.pesticide/index.html?hpt=C2 I know this is all hippy fear-mongering and all, but how have we allowed this to be an acceptable practice? The fact that people would actually in *favor* of this (and many do) is...
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    Peggy Noonan Writes Obama Is Incompetent

    Can you provide an example of where Obama has said this, or are these just more ridiculous inferences made from a moment of hysteria? From where I stand, if you think the distillation of Obama's political philosophy is that he thinks government can do things better than the private sector...
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    Not quite Muslim enough 80 killed in Ahamdi mosque

    Sadly, I agree. Enough is enough of this shit. Good people are being held back by these troglodytes. Government isn't going to fix this issue; the people need to make being a radical essentially uncool and unacceptable, attach a stigma to it and make it culturally as backwards as what...
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    Peggy Noonan Writes Obama Is Incompetent

    Clearly you're an expert that's been in all of the meetings with Obama and his team. I know that what you see on TV is absolutely an accurate and comprehensive representation of all of Obama's activity, but would you mind enlightening the rest of us what permutations he's gone through and what...
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    Peggy Noonan Writes Obama Is Incompetent

    I remember all those complaints about Bush at that time, and it still pops up now and then. When you hate your opponent, nothing they do is right. Obama could have parachuted onto the burning structure with giant hoses filled with flame retardant, and it still wouldn't matter. If he reacts...
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    Rush Limbaugh Fears he will lose all his money

    It seems that in every thread, without fail, you seem to shit on Atlanta and/or Georgia. Seriously, why not pack your up and leave? You must obviously live in a really shitty part of Atlanta.
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    We should all be ashamed

    1) Not sure who "y'all" is, but it certainly isn't me 2) I have no idea what you're talking about. Seems like you're raging against a different machine here friend
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    We should all be ashamed

    Great way of articulating it, and I agree. I still think the media has largely provided the road that brought us to this point, and with the bureaucracy as you describe we're not left with any ability to resolve any of these issues without massive, comprehensive and divisive reforms. In...
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    Nikki Haley(R), candidate for SC governor, alledged to have had affair with blogger

    She's damn good looking. We don't know the aspects of her personal life and shouldn't care. Maybe it's just me, but I couldn't care less about politicians having affairs. I'm not on some moral high-horse. I've known great leaders and thinkers that were terrible husbands/fathers or...
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    We should all be ashamed

    Thank you for your valuable contribution and showing us all your level of maturity.
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    We should all be ashamed

    I'm assuming you're trolling, but if not then thank you for providing another manifestation of this illness that keeps holding us all back.
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    We should all be ashamed

    I'll give you that, but that's hardly the point. I think it's ok to make mistakes, but only if we learn and improve from them. We can't seem to do that, or perhaps we never did. Regardless, the ramifications of this basic failure seems, anecdotally at least, to be getting to a point where we...
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    We should all be ashamed

    http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/oil_reaches_louisiana_shores.html This is shameful. This has probably already been posted, but I felt the need to do it anyway. I love this country dammit, but we can't seem to get anything right. Terrorist attacks on our soil, wars, Katrina...
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    Have a bank account at BofA? You can no longer criticize unions

    Yes, I disagree and honestly I'm not going to waste time trying to prove what is readily obvious. If I were able to find links, then the persecution complex would just say, "That's not enough!" I can't count the number of times I've seen these types of comments only to find others more willing...
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    Have a bank account at BofA? You can no longer criticize unions

    The conservative persecution complex is really, really trite at this point.
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    What is more important right now.. whining about immigration or fighting BP

    Black people rape too. Damn those civil rights people! In all seriousness, quit with this histrionic bullshit. No one condones rape or supports any policy that allows it to continue.
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    Rand Paul.. please just go away.. you are not bright enough to keep your mouth shut

    I think you have the wrong impression of regulation. In quite a number (if not most) cases, the regulation is the unifying knowledge of discovered boundaries. A single, private institution is simply not motivated to take knowledge they gained through hardship and share it with others. This is...
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    Anti-Anchor Baby Law

    While I don't agree with all the actions from Arizona as of late, I think it's great that they're exercising some initiative. This is precisely what this country lacks; everyone is too scared to do anything, be it healthcare reform or immigration control. What we've lost as Americans is the...
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    Research links pesticides with ADHD in children

    Where is Amused and others who will constantly spout bullshit about how it's all fear-mongering and hysteria? Our food supply is getting polluted and worse every year. But hey, let's sit on our asses and wait until the studies come out to suggest it might not be a great idea to be putting...
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    Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950

    What I find most aggravating is that there never, ever seems to be an answer with partisans. Show any evidence for something, and if you don't want to believe it you just find any way possible to make excuses. The only way to progress is to find ways to focus energies on useful arguments...
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    And this is why the Union is in danger.

    My god, I've heard better portrayals from my 2 year old nephew. That was pathetic and clearly fake.
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    That mosque being built adjacent to ground zero?

    I guess I'm in the minority here, because I think it's bullshit.
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    Glenn Beck has Nazi Tourettes

    Woah, we're getting into some dynamic font sizes here :) Personally, I think the likes of Beck, Hannity, Olbermann (much less O'Reilly, much less Boortz and others) and similar are anti-American sell-outs. I don't believe for a second that any of them give the slightest shit about how they are...
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    In Alabama, saying the bible is only "partly true" is attack-ad worthy

    Flip flops?? On noes!!!!!
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