Non pr look at whats on the shelves or running in machines all over the globe.
K8 Opterons have done well for there field not getting much glory but keeping a lot of servers running
K10 Barcelona, limited to 2G and under but perform on par with older 2.2-2.4G K8 chips in computational...
Performance is better than anything AMD has in the Athlon line and some of the older Intel lines But I won't make compares to Intel.
I've taken a 9500 2.4G against my 5600 X2 2.8 and there is a noticeable improvement knocking a few seconds off of the time with both running two threads from one...
Loose lips sink iron ships.
Intel is doing a bang up job on AMD do we really have to bitch fest online about it. If people love intel so much then go drink the blue coolaid and stop pissing in the green coolaid :D
Think of it as a 3 dimensional chart or matrix all three are constantly in play, better tech is affecting the other 2.
Cores moved in the x direction (wider).
Speed moves in the y direction (higher).
Technology moves in the z direction (forward).
We are near the point where n-cores is...
The process on the X2s has had time to mature, Phenom is just a baby in terms of maturity. If and when AMD gets it right, you'll see them move up. The C1 stepping has not been released yet.
New tech is under development but it is under closed wraps. What I know of it so far is that the cache...
I would not be surprised if they have a way to channel ram between off die cores with CSI or the new IMC. That would carry this core welding into the future.
I've seen blurbs that a Neha on 775 may be release which may be possible to have 3 welded cores by 32nm making it 6 cores. Which kicks in...
I've got one on the way, but yes the mobo issue is the dangling what if. I should have the little marvel in my hands by Tuesday. I have email into ECS to find out if any current boards will run it but the L3 will not be visible on my BIOS which assuming it posts then the L3 would be always...
Hold onto your current chip for now and wait for the Penryns to drop. It's going to make a world of difference.
For me Phenom is going to be a nice addition to my current rigs replacing a 2.2G 4600 with a 2.2G Phenom. The 4600 never oced worth a crap, getting 2.5 out of the Phenom will be a...
I got a list of the line and prices on both the desktop and server lines. They both look to be a great lineup at nice prices. Just need to find a board to match.
Die shrinks require a change in geometry of the circuits a change in masking and the materials used. It won't help AMD to jump to 55nm when work on 45nm has already begun. It is quite complex and expensive to setup. This is why once you start up a run, you want to get as much through as possible...
One year ago Brisbanes were not that great, now 2.7G versions are out meaning that 65nm does work. The big question now is will Phenom do this in under 6 months since the window is tighter with the current market. 2.2-2.4 sans-errata is not bad for an introduction except that the bar is at 3.0G...
AMD will start to do better not that it's not acquiring companies, starting up a fab as 36 was just getting underway and convereting 30 to 38.
Phenom is out along with the support or Brisbane and Windsor duals and some single cores.
A new chipsets that look good for the middle and low end...
I've checked and ECS has not released one, I may be getting another board. I too wanted to test the plug and pray. If it works then I should be able to get in and check voltages. The VCore is pegged at 1.4V on these MATX boards so I don't fear an overvolt but will I see all four cores?
I agree, that's true, AMD is not producing and inferior product as much as Intel has just produced a better one. Some of us do prefer AMD just for what it's worth.
Nothing in that initial post says he's a liar. As for the Intel Paying more, right after I read the article I went to log in and saw the Intel Resource Center on the front page of this site. FTW, AMD, Intel and others do buy ads on all these boards. My implication was more about who provides the...
Ok, so if I cancel my order. Which one of my mobos with a Q6600 fit into. Will it work in a 478 and can the 875 chipset handle that much CPU?
J/K but would a Q6600 work in a 965 Intel mobo because I have a E6400 in it that is mediocre because the board has no overclock or tweaking.
I...
I may not be the first but I just order a Phenom 9500 today. I'll be putting it against a 5600X2 at 2.8G stock vs stock.
I will OC it later but I just I first need a stable four core setup. Later next year, I will get a couple of Barcelonas to run in a server but first I want to see where the...
Icall this reply a personal user attack, don't escalate it or one or more of us may see posting vacations.
Liar was never mentioned nor implied. The closest I came was calling it bad journalism. Someone can give a bad review without lying. I had a lot of respect for your posts in the past...
The 2.4G 9700 that was supposed to be released is being held back until a BIOS patch is available. Some of the steering logic can lock up with 4 cores running full saturation in the 2.4G and higher bins. The change will see to it that the process management steers clear of the situation. No...
GPUs are only running at roughly 700mhz to 1G. With GFX they could change the code to run on massively pipelined procs with simple ring buffers. CPUs on the other hand are having to deal with stale x86 linear instructions because we are stuck with intel and microsoft. Give them credit for the...
First thing, I don't use name calling, though I did have a little fun with your handle but that's still not really a name call, apologies if you took it as offensive. I will ask you to stop calling me OCHungry though not offensive, I would prefer to keep his handle clear of mine.
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Actually I think intel would be selling some Itanic based junk with HT still in it that would barely beat a Sempron. To be more respectful, while I personally thought Conroe sucked, I admire the Harper-Yorks. Neha intrigues me but not enough to cross the bus divide.
Yes the low numbers on the RAM caught me off guard to. From what I understand, the RAM controller is now 200mhz slower than clock speed killing the excellant bandwidth we used to see on AMD procs. Sucks when you see new DDR2 tested on an Intel platform doing 7200 where AMDs did 9100, YMMV* I...
Woe, myocardial infarction. No I'm not OCHundgry but he does agree with me on a lot of issues but that big Intel billboard on this forum probably was taken as a warning to stay the h*** away. No I'm not take aback about the AMD setbacks, they are discouraging but I'm not targeting Anand for...
I can only comment on what I remember from three years. I was never a master overclocker and being my main rig it was a bad thing.
Now I do remember his rig was a mobile and he had it screaming but his speed was somewhere around 2.8 but I would have to ask him.
The thing about HT it was great...
Are all people on this board anti AMD intel chip lovers?
No, some such as Eye Smite speak truthfully about what is real here.
Amd may not have one the race on the fastest proc. but there are still in the game.
Not so long ago AMD was in the lead but I don't remeber being battered because I...
The northwoods as a whole were not faster than overclocked XPs. I had a OCed NW2.6 at 3.06G my buddy had his XP at around 2.8G and cleaned my clock. I did evety thing I could to boost my favourite top of the line Intel rig but could not touch his scores.
Current Windsor 65nm hardware from...
Anand is smarter than that, he knew what he was going to before he got the plane tickets. This event was about showing what the platform would do as a whole. I think AMD could have handled it better but it was just a marketing game he could have opted out of.
Wow I feel like one of the few AMD fanboys in the club here. Come on, it had nothing to do with the benchmarks. Page two was an Intel ad for gad sakes. Tom's did a real review of the product and then show how much of an as5 pounding AMD took. See the point yet! Anand writes good articles but 2...
Just think is AMD had gotten this out in 2h 2006, the IT world be a different place. Barcelonas are selling faster than AMD can make them so it can't be all that bad. Now lets see how well Phenom and Tolem do.
Where was the Phenom article that Lal Shimpi wrote it was all conroe and penryn.
Besides the fact that Intel pays him more or has better wine and cheese parties or beer and pizza, couldn't we have just the info on Phenom and leave all the effing Intel crap for the benchmarks and closing. That...
I say put the two best rigs money can by just to see how much damage can be done also. I want to see AMD take the crown, that ensures that we keep getting better chips. Intel is already dragging its feet on the process for 45nm by eliminating an extra set of steps that improve the chip infusion...
Sorry, not quite. Most of the Brisbane line ocerclocks to as much as 3.2. The problem has been in the power factor of leakage. AMD sees no need to expend money on an EOL product. The 6400Windsor and 5000 Brisbanes are pulls from the best. The only thing that sucks is the power loss. This is...
Don't just think of it as a yield problem. Also consider the edge chips that are fully formed but the core closest to the rim is shaky. Fuse it off and a trike is born. You get the full L3 cache for 3 cores. each core gets it's full cache but unfortunately the forth cache is lost with the faulty...
Harperstown will be the last 771 when Intel switches to Nehalam platform late next year. They have the fastest chips at this point and are slightly less power draw in some of the lower range. You may also look at the MP systems supporting more than two chips. Ram is shared amongst both processor...
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