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    FSB Hole or Max OC Reached?

    In the end, I decided the extra voltage just wasn't worth the few MHz difference. I think I might have been able to get the CPU stable at 3.2 (it was running past 6 hours) but the voltage was quite high and the temps were around 66. By comparison, I managed to get it stable (sort of) at 3.025...
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    FSB Hole or Max OC Reached?

    Yeah, the ram is running at 1:1 for sure. If what Noubourne is saying is correct regarding vcore needing to grow exponentially for additional overclocks, then it makes sense that I hit my max. At this point the extra 5 degrees may not be worth the 100Mhz. In any case, I'll see what I can squeeze...
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    FSB Hole or Max OC Reached?

    I will try your suggestion Serpent. Just as clarification, I'm running RAM at 5-5-5-15, with 1.9 Volts. The tests I am running are Small FFT's. I hear max Vcore is 1.55. Is that a safe bet assuming temps are kept below 60 degrees? Thanks, Mo
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    FSB Hole or Max OC Reached?

    Yesterday I was overclocking my e4500 but ran into some difficulties when I tried to push it to 285 x 11. Well, I finally got my Ultra-120 Extreme yesterday and temps dropped from 67 degrees to 53 degrees under load (Initially using stock Intel cooler). I figured there was still more room to...
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    Voltage, Temperature and Cooling

    Your questions aren't stupid and we all have to start somewhere! Not to mention that I started this thread because I had so very many questions of my own :) I'm not really sure about the 1T/2T thing. My board doesn't support it, but apparently the P35's do. Although it would seem like it is...
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    Voltage, Temperature and Cooling

    This is just an educated guess, so someone correct me if I'm wrong. I'd assume that you would go by the numbers reported in Windows. The reason being that Vdroop is a real problem and not just a cosmetic problem. By real problem i mean the voltage is actually dropping, whereas a cosmetic...
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    Voltage, Temperature and Cooling

    If you are testing your RAM, then you don't want your CPU to be the limiting factor. So you take the CPU out of the equation. Your CPU can easily run at 1.5GHz, so during the testing of your RAM, you don't have to worry about any funny business from your CPU. Once you've found the...
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    Voltage, Temperature and Cooling

    That's called Vdroop. It's common with all boards, but some boards tend to do it more than others. I know my DS3 does it a fair bit. There is actually another thread on this forum about who gets the highest vdroop. From that thread you can see what people are setting their Vcore to in bios and...
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    Voltage, Temperature and Cooling

    Oh i'm not overclocking the ram. I wanted to rule out the ram, so I ran memtest for 18 hours and there were no errors. I presume the CPU just got too hot. The computer is sitting open on my desk, well under my desk, but airflow should still be way better than when in a case. My X1900 is in a...
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    When Orthos errors out?

    IIRC the Tjunction temps for all the G0 chips are 100 degrees, correct? On intel's 6850 spec sheet (6850 Specs) the thermal specs for all of these chips say 70-ish degrees. For all of the other chips that are Tjunction 85 degrees, the thermal spec says: 65 degrees Where does the e4500 M0...
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    Voltage, Temperature and Cooling

    I didn't think it was the ram intially. I half-tested the ram all the way up to 390 where it stopped. Half-tested meansI only let it run about 2 hours or so everytime I ran memtest. I didn't think 275 would be much of an issue for it, especially since it is running at 1.9v (manufacturer...
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    When Orthos errors out?

    When Orthos, Prime95 and other similar programs errors out... is it always a result of too little voltage? I often see guides that say: if orthos crashes, you need to up the voltage. Which I can totally understand for most/many scenarios. However, can temperature ever be the culprit of orthos...
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    Voltage, Temperature and Cooling

    Thanks for all responses, it clarified quite a bit. From my last test I was able to get the chip stable at 265, with the vcore somewhere below 1.4 (4-5) notches below on the DS3 mobo. The chips were still reaching some pretty high temps, close to 70. At 275 it ran for a solid 2 hours, but...
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    E4500

    I've never gone as far as to perform soldering/mods on my board, so I'm not really sure what you are referring to. Are you talking about the BSEL, Vdroop mod, other? Perhaps you can give me a shove in the right direction :) Thanks!
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    E4500

    IIRC at 270 it just reboot, which I assume is voltage related. I was afraid to up the voltage too much without reading on the limits (which was my task for today). The vcore in bios was set to 1.35, but CPU-Z reported it a fair bit lower around 1.2xx. I think i remember seeing 1.29 but that's...
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    CPU Fan not working when idle

    I don't think you have anything to worry about. I've had a similar experience using stock HSF's, so it's not abnormal that the Arctic Freezer can cool the chip down to the low 30's. If the noise doesn't bother you and you don't mind, it can't hurt the let the fan on the cooler to run constantly...
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    quad 2.4 G0 keeps fluctuating in core speed

    I believe Speedstep is noted as: "EIST" on the DS3 motherboards. I'm not sure if it's the same for your mobo though. From a DS3, overclocking Guide: CPU EIST Function__________ [Disabled] There is some discussion that EIST does not affect overclocking as the processor will run full speed...
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    E4500

    Another quick question... Which Vcore reading should be regarded as the most accureate? The one you step in Bios, or the ones reported by CPU-Z and other similar programs? I would assume CPU-Z, hence why there are so many vdroop mods out there, but I just wanted to double check. Thanks.
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    Voltage, Temperature and Cooling

    When people mention not to go above a specific voltage for a chip is it because: (1) the temperatures will increase too much, and will subsequently make it difficult to adequately cool your chip, thus shortening the life span. (2) The high voltage could kill your chip and the increase in...
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    E4500

    I also recently got an e4500 running on the Giga 965P DS3. Although my Ultra-120 Extreme didn't arrive, I tried OC'ing with the stock Intel cooler. So far, it's stable at 11 x 260 (2.86) with a Vcore (in bios) set at 1.35. Temps are hovering around 63 at full load. I have a feeling the board...
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    Is it a bad time to buy a GTX?

    I'd say you can probably get away with an X1950 for the time being. I doubt the new vid card launch will have mid range cards right off the bat (mid range = GTS type card). It will probably be quite similar in price to the GTX when the 8xxx series cards were launched 8xxx series. On the bright...
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    Buy now or wait?

    Well I was planning on buying the following component for my new system: Intel e4400 Gigabyte 965P-DS3 E-VGA 8800 GTS 640 MB With the recent price drop of the Q6600, the e4400 seems to be going for about $130 (CDN) the DS3 is also going for about $130. My inital plan was to hold off...
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    Cas timings

    Try looking at the memory tab instead of the SPD tab. I'm not sure why the numbers are different for your sticks in the spd tab. Anyways, in the memory tab there will only be one set of numbers, or should only be one set of numbers, and make sure you are running dual channel, which will be...
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    CPU Overclocking: Limiting Factors?

    heh, sorry guys, I didn't mean to sound greedy that I'm not getting the extra 50 or 100 mhz, I was just wondering about the dynamics of limitations on CPU's. Thanks for the replies :) Mo
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    CPU Overclocking: Limiting Factors?

    Hey guys, I only ask this question becuase I can't seem to overclock my venice higher than 2.6. Well, currently I am running stock cooling and am running my AMD Venice 3000+ Cpu with 1.55 volts at 2.6 ghz. I can't seem to get any higher, or i'll error out in p95, even with higher voltage I...
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    Help getting a few more MHz from my Venice OC

    One of the reasons you got that message may be lack of voltage to the CPU. I know I got the "horrible blue screen", but once i upped my CPU vid and the corresponding percentage, and even CPU startup it ran fine. (sorry, this is for my DFI board, I'm not sure if the A8N-E has similar settings)...
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    Bios update saved me hours of testing...

    The Problem: Yesterday I was doing some overclocking on my new A64 3000 venice and found out I couldn't get my FSB above 250 (2.25 ghz) while using two sticks of memory (dual channel or not, it didn't matter). It just wouldn't boot into windows. If i used 1 stick, i could reach about 292 (2.62...
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    Dual Channel = Lower overclocking potential?

    I tried swapping the sticks with each other and the both run fine individually. Mind you this is at 290 HTT with a 2:1 divider, so it is really a bit less than 150 so they really aren't running at 250. Mo
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    Dual Channel = Lower overclocking potential?

    Well, it's not even the whole 'dual channel' issue, the problem occurs when I run both sticks, regardless of single or dual channel. I tried loosening timings, but I don't think that made a difference because I'm running the divider at 1/2 anyways, so I don't think the ram is 'stressed' out...
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    Dual Channel = Lower overclocking potential?

    I think i read it somewhere, but I might as well confirm. The maximum voltages for OCZ Premier series ram is about about 2.9 right? Don't really want to go any higher? Mo
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    Dual Channel = Lower overclocking potential?

    Well, I am by no means done overclocking or testing, but I thought i'd post and get a rough idea of what might be an ideal situation given my current situation. So far, i've set the mem divider to 1:2, so it shouldn't be an issue. I'm trying to find my max CPU potential and it turns out that...
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    X800XL -- ATi, Sapphire or Asus

    Dammit, conflicting views again... back to the drawing board... Mo
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    X800XL -- ATi, Sapphire or Asus

    From where I am buying it, pricing is all the same, so that isn't an issue. Yeah, i forgot, it is PCI-E. Mo
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    X800XL -- ATi, Sapphire or Asus

    The pricing for all 3 cards mentioned in the subject are the same, so that's not an issue. However, I am confused as to which one I should get. Anyone care to share an opinon? Maybe some horror stories? Suggestions? Anything would be great :). Mo
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    DFI Boards -- Do i need the sli-dr?

    Cool. Thanks a lot for the info, saved me close to $70 :) Mo
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    DFI Boards -- Do i need the sli-dr?

    I'm only going to have 1 sata drive and 1 ata drive. Not really interested in RAID either. Still go for the ultra-d? Mo
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    DFI Boards -- Do i need the sli-dr?

    Hey guys, I'm gonna be setting up my system soon. I'm getting a 3000+ venice, and planning to overclock it as much as I can and someone recommended the DFI SLI-dr, and there seem to be a ton of great reviews on it. Thing is that, I'm not gonna be getting an Nvidia card, I'll probably go...
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    Venice Steppings -- Differences?

    Sorry, I know this is a newb question. a) Do the letters and numbers after the manufacturing date indicate the tests performed on that chip? b) Are there drastic differences between chips that have different letters at the end, but are made within the same week. ie: 0517 BPCW and 0517...
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    New System: Need Advice

    Any real difference between the Dual Channel Corsair, Kingston, OCZ value ram? Or is all value ram pretty much the same? Mo
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    New System: Need Advice

    Hmm... Thanks for that link. I didn't realize the difference it made... i was mainly getting good ram so it wouldn't be the bottleneck of my overclock, but hey, i got no problems with using a divider and some value ram :) Mo
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