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why is my cpu getting hotter? x2 3800

after a good cleaning and proper as5 (super thin as hsf and cpu are both lapped near flawless..) the diff between ambient and idle, and ambient and full load are much better.. 2C above ambient at idle, and 14 above at full load, so my delta is exactly back to where is was before. Bottom line...
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- Post #28
- Jul 29, 2006
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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why is my cpu getting hotter? x2 3800

thx for the support and clarification Lumbus.. and yeah, you're right about that 2nd part.. I was thinking more of 'feel' (like 'cold steel' vs wood or something) than of logic.. (thermal conductivity and heat transfer creating that cold feel...) I should have just left that part out altogether =)
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- Post #27
- Jul 28, 2006
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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why is my cpu getting hotter? x2 3800

So you say it's not possible to have 22C air pumping into a case, and have a thermistor in a low airflow area soaking up dissipated heat to 25C, and have my cpu cooled by the 22C air to a nice 24C? Given that there are 2 80mm fans blowing air into the case towards the cpu, the large hsf fan...
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- Post #25
- Jul 28, 2006
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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why is my cpu getting hotter? x2 3800

yah yah i know its a law of physics and I know why metal feels colder.. but what you keep ignoring is the fact that I'm not talking about the ambient temp surrounding the cpu, but the ambient temp at the thermistor labelled as the 'case' or 'ambient' temp. Also if you see my prev posts you'll...
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- Post #23
- Jul 28, 2006
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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why is my cpu getting hotter? x2 3800

per Ayah: Measure the changes in deltaT(Difference between ambient and idle/load temps) instead of just what the load temp is at the time. At the time of my initial measurements the delta was 15, and now is 22 1/3. Whether The increase in ambient creates a non-linear increase in that...
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- Post #14
- Jul 27, 2006
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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why is my cpu getting hotter? x2 3800

I assume you mean the cpu will never be at 'less than ambient' and not 'less then idle'. It's not an impossibility, just proven by theory in most normal cases to be as such. In this case, however, as I implied, the ambient temp reported by the mobo probe may have been an elevated number due to...
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- Post #11
- Jul 27, 2006
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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why is my cpu getting hotter? x2 3800

that's not against science.. ever pick up a piece of metal and find that it feels cold, whereas other objects do not? Some objects literally are colder in the same ambient temp. It's entirely possible given the hsf material and airflow to have the idle temp 1 deg less than ambient.. (wind...
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- Post #8
- Jul 27, 2006
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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why is my cpu getting hotter? x2 3800

yeah i'm gonna dust-off the whole thing but using the double height (for dual fan) filters on the front of my case to keep dust out, I dont have much of a dust issue. I guess I'll just have to hope for the best with a re-seat, and also cry a little since my $300 cpu is so cheap to buy now.
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- Post #3
- Jul 26, 2006
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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why is my cpu getting hotter? x2 3800

My lapped x2-3800 with a freezer pro 64 or whatever used to run at 24C idle, 37C load, oc'd to 2.6 on air cooling. Ambient temp was actually 25!. Granted, that was before the heat wave we've been having, but now it's running around 42C idle, 49C load. This has been a very, very slow process...
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- Jul 26, 2006
- Replies: 27
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Extending a PCI-E power connector with... Another connector...

cant you just match the wires to their location on the connector, and make sure that you splice to the same ones on the new/extended connector? Unless there is heatshrink or something in the way, that'd be my suggestion. AFAIK they are all on the same 12v rail, you can always voltmeter it and...
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- Post #4
- Jun 27, 2006
- Forum: Graphics Cards
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Best AGP card for games for $130-$150

what cpu/ram? Honestly I LOVED my 6600GT w/ddr3.. it would have lived forever had I not basically snapped it in half. Crap, even my old 4800ti flies through half life 2 and cs source at 1280x1024..
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- Post #11
- Jun 8, 2006
- Forum: Graphics Cards
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ASUS GF7900GTX $342.90 +shipping

my buddy ordered one.. thought I would share the link. I'll update if it does/doesnt work out.
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- Post #4
- May 16, 2006
- Forum: Hot Deals and Giveaways
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ASUS GF7900GTX $342.90 +shipping

Typo? Rediculously low price.. especially if you can find an amazon free ship or 5% coupon code.. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EY...TF8&m=A2A0CZG0007A9F&v=glance&n=172282
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- Thread
- May 16, 2006
- Replies: 19
- Forum: Hot Deals and Giveaways
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Question for x1900xt owners

happens to me almost every boot.. 2 diff motherboards, 2 diff bioses on each, no bios change on the (ati mfg) gpu, 4 different displays.. somethings up with the card! Still works sweet though
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- Post #17
- May 3, 2006
- Forum: Graphics Cards
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How big a difference is a VGA connection vs DVI?

same here. On an higher end acer (i know, high end acer?) 19" for my girlfriend, the vga sucked and had 'shadows' on everything, dvi cable cleared it up, looks super sharp and nice. Same thing on my 32" lcd, vga was decent, dvi is just sharp and perfect. Some mfgs just arent invensting much...
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- Post #7
- Apr 19, 2006
- Forum: Graphics Cards
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Anyone using an 550 TV Tuner card?!?!?

I just bought one yesterday (ati elite), had problems with image quality and/or functionality in every front end I used except for sagetv (tried power cinema3, beyondtv, ati mmc), and now it's running sweet. Worth noting is that I am using the coax cable connecter to the built in tuner, and not...
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- Post #16
- Apr 14, 2006
- Forum: TVs
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Catalyst 6.3 Drivers Out!

My 3dmark06 results: (yes i know it's synthetic crap) system: x2 3800 @2.2 x1900xt at 650/750 Test run at 1280x1024 catalyst 6.2: 5552 catalyst 6.3: 5986
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- Post #22
- Mar 8, 2006
- Forum: Graphics Cards
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which x1900xt?

i got a built by ati one for 499 at microcenter.. Runs nice at/around 698/800 (cant remember exact freqs) I dont know about the warranty though, i suppose I should have found out before dropping 500 on a vid card.. EDIT: BBATI card, 1yr limited warranty =\
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- Post #4
- Mar 8, 2006
- Forum: Graphics Cards
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Question for AC Freezer 64 PRO Owners...

my 2 cents.. stock hsf at load was 47C, only 41C with this HSF and AS5. Lapping this hsf dropped it to 37 max..
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- Post #41
- Mar 3, 2006
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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AC Freezer 64 Pro

no marketing, just sharing a link to a resource that was valuable to me. ha thats funny i googled stootze and found someone who sells thermal grease and stuff, not me!
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- Post #22
- Mar 1, 2006
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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AC Freezer 64 Pro

I used the ultra kit from here LINK for 6.99 shipped.. Comes with 280, 400, 600, 800 wet/dry, alcohol wipes, and 3 cutting/lapping compounds. It's enough to do at least 2 hsfs, and the price was perfect
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- Post #20
- Mar 1, 2006
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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video ram sinks

is your 6600gt agp or pcie? I had an xfx 6600gt that was agp, and the agp/pcie bridge chip got HOT, really, really hot. Believe it or not, using 2 copper bga ramsinks, one on top of the other, cooled it well enough that I was able to OC the card quite a bit more..
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- Post #3
- Mar 1, 2006
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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AC Freezer 64 Pro

yeah i know, i was surprised too.. the entire hsf is literally cold to the touch.. I lapped the hsf AND the heat spreader on the cpu, so with just a tiny bit of AS5 in between its making really good contact..
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- Post #13
- Feb 28, 2006
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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AC Freezer 64 Pro

ambient is at 24C as well. I'm using the fan that came with the hsf of course, in an antec tx1050 case. 3x80mm, 1x92mm, 1x120mm fans. It's pretty quiet actually..
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- Post #11
- Feb 28, 2006
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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AC Freezer 64 Pro

just lapped my 64 pro and my x2 3800 last night, 24C idle, 37C load @2.6 (~1hr p95), I say it is the only hsf I'll ever need for this cpu..
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- Post #9
- Feb 28, 2006
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Minimum CPU for HDTV?

I had no problems playing 720p wmv hd movies on an XP2500, no dropped frames.. Vid card made all the difference in the world. Wouldnt play well at all on an old ti4200, but was just fine on a 6600GT
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- Post #4
- Feb 14, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking

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