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Core 2 Duo Photoshop test

The only thing this "proves" is that every MB/Disk/windows installation is different. Are you really just comparing the CPU, or the chipset and subsystems as well? The same cpu may perform 20% differently on different motherboards. So the most anyone can get out of this is that the new intel...
- Dthom
- Post #40
- Aug 15, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Rumour from Taipei: Dell to sell more of AMD line

The mobos I've seen so far are 4P (2 x dual core). What are you referring to specifically?
- Dthom
- Post #20
- Jun 14, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Rumour from Taipei: Dell to sell more of AMD line

I think that is my point. Its not like Dell is replacing Intel with AMD, or that they are pushing AMD. They just want to accommodate customers that insist on AMD, and have something to offer them. Of course I'm sure that Dell will have to pay a bit more for Woodcrests and Conroes now, so the...
- Dthom
- Post #7
- Jun 13, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Bragging rights!

Faster doing what? I've got a 2.6Ghz P4 running FreeBSD 4.9 that will blow your systems doors off anything network related. I hope you didn't just buy it, because in about a month you'll be able to get something faster for 30% less.
- Dthom
- Post #26
- Jun 13, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Can AMD keep up with Intel at the factory level?

Take a look at how much they get for the big cache chips? Its not like they're going to be selling 4MB chips for $100. They get their pound of flesh and then some for the bigger caches. Plus the bigger caches give then an even bigger advantage performance-wise, so they can charge even more now...
- Dthom
- Post #50
- Jun 13, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Rumour from Taipei: Dell to sell more of AMD line

Last week they announced their "next generation of servers" based on woodcrest. I think people are a bit clueless about the entire Dell thing. This forum as an example, there are people who want AMD no matter what Intel does, and Dell wanted in on those opportunities. They're not selling AMD...
- Dthom
- Post #4
- Jun 13, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Can AMD keep up with Intel at the factory level?

And I've already made the point that intel can make money selling at a lower price than AMD. When AMD had a performance advantage (as they do at the moment today), they can price over Intel. If they have to price below Intel, now they're losing $50. or more per processor, because they have to...
- Dthom
- Post #40
- Jun 12, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Can AMD keep up with Intel at the factory level?

The *cost* of these processors at the high end is nothing compared to what they're getting. What happens to a $1050. dual 2.6Ghz Opteron's price when woodcrest hits the market at $850 and it blows its doors off performance-wise? AMDs going to have to knock $400. off its margin. You think that...
- Dthom
- Post #39
- Jun 12, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Can AMD keep up with Intel at the factory level?

No, I'm saying that the desktop doesn't matter. You're the one who was whining about Intel brainwashing the public. Performance doesn't matter to the public. They don't know what they need, and they don't know what they're buying. MY web server doesn't matter, because I'm not getting enough...
- Dthom
- Post #38
- Jun 12, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Can AMD keep up with Intel at the factory level?

Oh stop it. The public doesn't know what any of those things mean anyway. The truth is, for the vast majority of networks, performance is fine no matter what you use. None of it matters on the desktop. The average joe doesnt care about power, doesn't need dual processors, and can get by just...
- Dthom
- Post #36
- Jun 12, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Can AMD keep up with Intel at the factory level?

Nothing personal, but AMD nor Intel give a rat's butt what you or I do.
- Dthom
- Post #32
- Jun 12, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Can AMD keep up with Intel at the factory level?

Regarding margin, AMDs margins are up because they currently have an advantage. When Intel cuts prices AND has a performance advantage, AMDs margins will disappear altogether. Intel will be able to sell conroe and woodcrest at a price that AMD can't make money on if they match it. Whats now the...
- Dthom
- Post #31
- Jun 12, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Can AMD keep up with Intel at the factory level?

How can it be a bad decision? The geeks in this forum think its all about performance, and it really isnt. AMD has gained market share where it matters because of the power factor. Intel finally realized that and addressed it. Now the only reason to use anything AMD, I say "now" after the...
- Dthom
- Post #30
- Jun 12, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Can AMD keep up with Intel at the factory level?

I think this whole topic is moot, since AMD will be shipping a lot fewer processors in a few months. Intel's new advantage in performance, combined with their ability to sell at a lower price with a higher margin, is going to be big trouble for AMD. One thing that Intel's new architecture...
- Dthom
- Post #18
- Jun 11, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Intel's Tulsa

First of all, IO is of course a huge factor in a real world test. However all of your analysis is faulty and biased. Having tested hundreds of systems with all sorts of different cpus and chipsets, the end controllers are generally a constant across the chipset/cpu. The quality of the driver is...
- Dthom
- Post #45
- Jun 11, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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If AMD waits too long to drop prices, I will go with Intel

I always find it interesting when people wait for a processor without even knowing it if really will be any faster than something else. The exact same processor will give very different results on 2 different motherboards, so how do you really know that the 10-15% shown in any particular...
- Dthom
- Post #37
- May 29, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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IDF 2006 - Conroe Merom and Woodcrest info

I give AMD plenty of credit for forcing Intel's hand. But this is clearly an Intel-bashing forum, so I didn't think there was a need to tout AMD. You don't seem to understand the concept of coattails; its not about being behind, its about Intel creating the market and AMD simply sucking some...
- Dthom
- Post #203
- May 28, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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IDF 2006 - Conroe Merom and Woodcrest info

Still hoping to hear your ideas, if you have any. This sounds like a bunch of fat chicks making fun of the cheerleaders.
- Dthom
- Post #200
- May 28, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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IDF 2006 - Conroe Merom and Woodcrest info

Again, no arguments, just name-calling. So everyone who isn't AMD biased should be banned? First of all, you're dead wrong. Intel was not really playing catch-up, they focused on the more lucrative notebook market, which they completely dominated and still do. The design of the Pentium-M was...
- Dthom
- Post #199
- May 28, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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IDF 2006 - Conroe Merom and Woodcrest info

I don't think that someone who says he'll never buy Intel for religious reasons has much time sensitivity. I don't see many "facts" in these forums; just a bunch of back-room geeks that know *something* about computing but not much about business. i see a bunch of guys that are simply desperate...
- Dthom
- Post #196
- May 28, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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IDF 2006 - Conroe Merom and Woodcrest info

Voted for Gore, I assume? Do you avoid chain retail such as Starbucks because they wrestle real-estate from small business owners by offering to sign super long term leases? Get with the program. Business is about making money. Intel has proven with this rapid leapfrog over AMD that they are the...
- Dthom
- Post #194
- May 28, 2006
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking

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