If you run your 100MHz FSB Tbird in a KT133A @133Mhz FSb it would run 9x133=1200MHz... if you can get it to run this fast then yes you can run it without unlocking it... the chances however seems small I'm afraid
could it be you didn't install SP1? w/o it Win2K & Via KX/KT133 should be a pretty unstable combo from what I've heard. With that said I've recently run Win2K w/o SP1 on a KT133A with no stability problems what-so-ever.
Furthermore I run Win2K on my main box, Athlon 650 on AMD751 wich has...
<< Pretty smart azzed reply without a grain of proof. So your saying every chip from Dresdin is copper? Well that is definatly not a fact! We know this because AMD did a press release concerning the testing of copper interconects at Dresdin after the factory had been producing chips. So no not...
actually AFAIK they recycle the chips that fails in some way. Not really sure how though, I'm not as familiar with the details of cpu production as I'd like to be :P
I say go Tbird. That way you get to keep your existing cpu+mobo config to use for a server or something or sell.
Infineon RAM should work in socketA mobos.
Make sure your PSU is up for the job.. (if it's 300W you should be fine, if you wanna be 100% sure take a look at AMDs recommended PSU list)
Whether the die polish color scheme got messed up or they actually make Alu Tbirds 1200 I don't know. However Jerry Sanders did state at the Q400 earnings conference call that by Q101 all Tbirds would be produced at Fab 30. I'm personally more inclined to believe Fab 30 has been using green die...
Remeber to install SP1 for Win2K .. also get the AGP reg. patch for Win2K. (and ofcourse as previously mentioned the Via 4-in-1) Then you should be fine.
Also don'e expect Win2K to boot up after you change the hardware. I have yet to find a way to succesfully switch boards without reinstalling...
Sounds good to me. Especially with your cpu is running at only 26C .. that's nice and cool. It doesn't seem being pushed to the limit at all... I'm guessing you are running it on default Vcore?
I'd stick with what you got if I were you, and then go socketA Tbird 1GHz+ later.
The reason you can't overclock is (most likely) that your L2 SRAM chips won't play along because they are on a 1/2 divider. You wil need to lower the L2 multiplier on some way. If you can get into windows @800 you...
POST LEDS are a cluster of leds on the motherboard that using code combinations tell you what phase of the POST the system is preforming. This is very useful to dertermain problems with the setup that may cause the POST to fail. AFAIK MSI and Epox are the only ones who have this feature. (I'm...
I don't think the speed difference between a PIII 1000 and your current Athlon Classic 800 would be worth spending the amount a PIII costs over. Ofcourse it depends on why you wanna upgrade, but if it's for games the money would be much better spendt on a new vid. card. :)
in my experience the Athlon classic is the faster of your machines. Memory benchmarks on the Celeron even at high clockspeeds are pretty low. I Sandra memory benchmarks my Classic 650 is faster than one of my buddies Celeron 533@924.
Just my $0.02
that depends on what speed classic you got if a Duron would be a better deal. However gnerally speaking yes Duron should be preferred over classic, they are pretty much on par preformancewise clock-for-clok, and the Tbird is faster.
to see if it's 200 or 266 MHz FSB part, you look at the part number ... it should read A1200AMS3C if it's a 266MHz part or A1200AMS3B if it's a 200MHz part(here using the 1200MHz Tbird as an example)
... or if I saw someone driving a Yugo fitted with a farrari chassis, and the guy driving it had paid for it like you do for a farrari, I'd say it was an overprices POS. Probably were cool looking and all, no doubt about that... ;)
could you please link to the article in question? It's a pretty serious accusation, knowing AthlonOC I find it difficult to believe they would post something like that in an article, since it would obviously be false information.
don't go with the superorb for it's clip... it's very capaable of crushing cpus as well.. I haven't actually crushed one, but chipped a poor Duron severely trying to remove a superorb
<< Hate to tell ya but Dell doesn't offer raid in a home desktop. I'm just saying that I configured a comparable Dell and it was the same money !!! except for raid >>
Oh what do I know.. I do not find anything about Dell to be worth my time ;)
I'd hardly say an athlon Classic 700 is obsolete just yet... guess it depends on what you use it for I suppose, but for most needs it should be quite sufficient
the chip in question is not by any chance a slot A Tbird? Just an idea
either way if your motherboard bios is not newest rev, I suggest trying to flash it to newest version.
I tried to o/c my K6-2 300, first rev. once. Didn't go very well, it wouldn't do more than 333 on a 3.5 x 95MHz , which I actually found to be less attractive than 3.0 x 100. I tried to go for 3.5 x 100, but no go. Ofcourse I never tried 3.0 x 112 since by board was not capable of doing 112FSB...
It has already been said, but i also hink Toms review made good sense. He analyzed what will you get when spenging a certain amount on money on either a Dell P4 system or an Athlon system of some other brand. It was a good fair comparison IMO
<< Trying to be as fair and impartial as possible (something you should try) >>
Hopefully you don't see yourself as impartial. At least NOS and frustrated2 admits to being Intel fans. Eiter you are trying to give your statemnts more weight by claiming to be impartial or you're in serious...
<< Yes they can go fast, buy when they try to tow something, they can't, and when they hit something, they crumple up like a little ball of paper. >>
Actually it's the other way around. The K7 arhitechture is perfect for "towing" heavy apps such as 3DstudioMax or prof. openGL.
If...
<< P4 IS however, not a dumb design...they knew very well what they were doing, sacrificing current-app performance for real increases with optimized software. >>
... or one could be choose to believe that Intel crippled the design to get it out of the door quicky. One could also choose to...
Thank you NOS, I try :)
Doug
<< Huuuhhhh? I'm virtually never on the computer, without multitasking. Except when playing some games. (Even some of them can make use.) >>
I second that. I probably spend 95% of my time with the computer doing some sort of heavy multitasking. I usually have...
<< Well I'm sure that Intel had to start somewhere so when are they going to do something ??? >>
You are self contraticting NOS. You said yourself how much bigger Intel is than AMD, yet you expect AMD to rpovide the same kind of software support as Intel. Actually AMD is doing something...
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