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  1. Discussion Ryzen 3000 series benchmark thread ** Open **

    Zen 2 and Navi both turned out to be excellent products. But where are the Ryzen and Navi combination reviews?? It seems pretty idiotic to have a simultaneous release and then reviewers ignore it??
  2. Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    Those are great results and that's with a notable clock speed deficit. The biggest eyeopener is that it's half the cost.
  3. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    I don't think the rebranded Ti, or supers, cards are generating enough interest to dissuade people from wanting a Zen 2 and Navi combination. 7's galore! It's absolutely the most advanced platform. I'd much rather buy into a PCIe 4.0 platform if I was buying one today. It's a situation where the...
  4. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    The 5700 series was a good deal even at its current price; perf/$ leader. If they were trolling nvidia and the price is even cheaper then these should sell really well. Nvidia needs to lower their prices. They've been gouging consumers for far too long.
  5. GeForce RTX 2060/2070/2080 Super Reviews

    Their PR is garbage. The only thing they have is astroturfers spreading their infection in tech message boards (a reworked 'focus group' initiative). I've yet to see anyone able to point to an example of good marketing from their marketing department. Take their "Super" branding for an example...
  6. Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    I don't think anyone really cares if it hits 5ghz or not. A couple hundred mhz is plenty.
  7. Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    I think that after what we have witnessed, it simply isn't true to say that intel's 10nm is equal to TSMC's 7nm. 10nm is broken and 7nm isn't, so whatever intel was shooting for didn't work properly in the real world and they haven't given any information on what the transistor will look like if...
  8. Info [TPU] Intel Internal Memo Reveals that even Intel is Impressed by AMD's Progress

    Zen was started under Rory Reed as was the semi custom unit. He did what he was supposed to do and passed the reins on to Lisa Su, who was hired under Rory Reed leadership as was Mark Papermaster. [edit] And of course as was Jim Keller.
  9. Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    It's going to be a tough road ahead for intel i think. The significance of what AMD and TSMC accomplished with Zen2 and 7nm can't be overstated. They managed a new scalable chiplet architecture on a node shrink while increasing clock speeds and IPC. The conventional wisdom was clock speed...
  10. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    Sure you would. And if they were picking up marketshare you would be outraged they weren't picking up higher margins. Or somebody would. And round and round it goes...
  11. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    Nah. Nvidia is price gouging like they have done for years. AMD is offering more performance for less money, as usual. You need to be crusading against nvidia to lower their prices. Especially since their cards have been on the market for 6 months, prices should have already dropped.
  12. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    True. And nvidia is a much weaker competitor than intel is. The GPU market is also less predictable and more volatile than the CPU market, partly because nvidia doesn't have any of the clout or government backing than intel does to force OEM's to obey their demands. The closest they have is...
  13. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    Sounds like the people claiming to be upset about the 5700XT price better high tale it over to nvidia forums or email them directly with their complaints since they are the ones setting the pricing in the GPU market currently.
  14. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    Absolutely they are which is why the onus is on them to lower prices, not AMD. AMD has had superior perf/$ since forever(?), taking the hit on margins while nvidia continues to set record high prices after record high prices for consumers. To put any blame at all on AMD for GPU prices is...
  15. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    I'll go by the slide decks until proven otherwise. Thanks.
  16. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    That term is pretty vague alright. I'll say best performance and best performance/$.
  17. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    And? Nobody is suggesting that somebody with a 2070 upgrade to a 5700XT. It's not complicated, if you are looking to buy a card in the $350-$500 range Today then the 5700 or 5700XT is the best card on the market. There are those that will look at AMD's open ecosystem (Freesync, Freesync 2, no...
  18. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    Nor yours? lol Does your butt hurt?
  19. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    That's possible for those wanting buy a lower tier card. For those wanting to buy the highest performing and performing/$ card in the $350-$500 range, it is the 5700 and 5700XT.
  20. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    .....and they will do what, go buy a more expensive card with lower performance from the competition? As an 'AMD fan', i think the prices are fine and view it as nvidia that needs to lower their prices.
  21. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    They also have a card boosting to 2 GHz boost out of the box. 2 GHz and higher won't be uncommon on Navi. As for nvidia's tradition of clock speed, from what i've read and understood the Turing cards have very little clock headroom; they max out at ~80 Mhz or thereabouts.
  22. Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    AMD was so quick with PCIe 4 chipset support because their chipsets are the same silicon as the IO die. It seems their design philosophy is modular and scalable throughout the company's products.
  23. Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    That explanation makes it crystal clear how these features work. It looks like there is a fair bit left in tank for enthusiasts to get out of the platform with tangible performance increases from headroom for both CPU and memory clocks.
  24. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    I wouldn't take that bet, i'm sure they will also. And from high demand rather than lack of supply. At 250mm^2 they'll be able to make boat loads of them.
  25. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    Yep i imagine a lot of people are thinking the same thing. It's quite a little beast at 250mm^2, at this size they can cut it down again and use it another tier below. A new 175mm die (or round about probably) would fit well to fill in below Navi 10. They probably overclock well also if the...
  26. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    Yes the 2070 is a terrible card, but that is what is on the market it's the exact opposite of what you keep referring to as a 'vacuum'. What rational business would target a fictional, imaginary card? You're argument makes no sense whatsoever, it's like you are spinning in circles chasing your...
  27. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    These are great cards. Everyone was suggesting that 5700 XT was going to fall behind the competing 2070, and that AMD's Strange Brigade benchmark was a best case scenario and that it was an AMD sponsored title. Turns out it wasn't the best case scenario after all. RDNA appears to be an excellent...
  28. Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    Oh is this how it's done? Speaking from personal experience, or?
  29. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    I like the new 'game clock'(if true), it takes a lot of confusion and guess work out of the narrative. Does nvidia have something similar or is it just somewhere between here and there?
  30. News [CNBC] AMD, Samsung partner on mobile graphics tech

    There aren't ways here. For anyone to try to do a take over of RTG, they would be fighting a battle they can not win. AMD has RTG so deeply entrenched in the industry, the predator company would have to battle all the other companies AMD has partnered with. Not gonna happen. In this case...
  31. News [CNBC] AMD, Samsung partner on mobile graphics tech

    That's mostly everything that's announced thus far, there are more to come. Expect an announcement from AMD and Microsoft for one as per the discussion at the Computex keynote.
  32. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    Surely you realize there is a huge difference between $499 and $1089? How many Ryzen CPUs do you suppose they would have sold if they priced them with the i7 6900K as a reference? If they can hit the $499 price point with a competitive card they should. There's no point in squeezing the lower...
  33. Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    The other significant decision he made was to bring lawsuits against intel for violating anti-competition laws. Without that, intel would very likely have continued its consumer and market abuse and completely locked AMD out of the market to the point where developing Zen would not have been an...
  34. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    10 days til E3 and 80/20 Navi/Zen 2.
  35. Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    It also makes sense from a business perspective since they can also sell discrete GPUs.
  36. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    Actually, ray tracing features are a negative. The cost of the added bloat to the die size is passed on to consumers for absolutely zero benefit. It's too weak to be useful and there are only a handful of games that even incorporate ray tracing even if the card could draw them on the screen...
  37. [Rumor, Tweaktown] AMD to launch next-gen Navi graphics cards at E3

    I'm not completely convinced, it appears to have some changes which is inline with normal architecture iterations. It has fewer CUs and more performance which the clock increase doesn't account for. I don't know of any deep dive on the architecture but i'm willing to bet it isn't a direct die...
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