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    ASUS P5K Deluxe

    Zardnok and orion23, Thanks for the replies. By the sound of it the new NB heat pipe is actually working pretty well. Somehow I think my plain vanilla board will not cool as well as the deluxe but I'll see if I can find a fan to squeeze in there somehow. In theory with the heat pipe I could...
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    ASUS P5K Deluxe

    Since you mention the DS3, maybe you could help me out. I'm wondering how the NB heat compares to that of the DS3. On my DS3, even at 9x333 I could only touch the NB for a few seconds w/o burning. Does it seem like these new heat pipe coolers on the P5K boards work well? Also, I know this is...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    Well, obviously I still trusted anand at that point...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    jgigz- I don't know if the idea of anand getting custom parts is so 'assinine.' after all, if it is pre-production, it is custom by definition, no? And funny I passed right over it but I'll quote you: "Here is what you're missing, just because anand says its expected to run in a certain...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    jgigz, Thanks for the reply and I actually agree with you on most points. I cannot definitively prove that anand is getting binned parts and that they are not just obscenely lucky in all the parts they get for review. If it is just luck, hey they are the luckiest people I've ever seen, and...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    Still nobody can talk about the topic at hand??? Does the 3.4-3.6 anand says to *expect* from an e4300 reflect production parts? YES or NO? Does the DS3 board in production work in the 9x350 to 9x380 range? YES or NO? DO ANAND PARTS MATCH PRODUCTION PARTS? YES OR NO?
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    Nope. Simply not true. I said that I was giving him the benefit of the doubt. B/C someone with 4000 posts is as suspicious of being biased in a thread like this as someone with my few posts. MY POINT WAS IGNORE THE NUMBER OF POSTS AND TALK ABOUT THE TOPIC! but you intentionally avoid that...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    *sigh* you still try to say this is about my parts when its about all parts in production *sigh* *sigh* *sigh* E4300 can not be expected to run 3.4 let alone 3.6, extremely rare few can... DS3 does not run in the mhz range tested by anand. *sigh* *sigh* *sigh* Still trying to avoid the...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    I don't expect my credibility to come from # of threads but from the facts of what I'm saying. To dismiss the facts without looking into them is stupid. To make this personal is stupid. To say I'm wrong because of # posts is stupid. Forget who has 10 posts and who is a 4000 post 'fan boy'...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    I can see how so many posts here have replied that overclocking is random luck and 'you just got a bad one'. Maybe I should have said more in my original post about overclocking since the p3-600 days and all the hardare I've had (I buy new parts, not a whole PC but something new maybe every 6...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    Sorry if you take it that way. But honestly, 4000 posts in less than 3 years is over 4 per day. By anyone's book you have an emotional investment in this site and its reputation. Rather than saying that this fact makes your particular post here biased or flat out untrue, I noted that I was...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    Interesting, the only two posts I've ever seen of someone running this board successfully in this range are both in this thread and from people who have invested significant portions of their lives in anandtech forums. Assuming you're not just a fan boy making this up, and giving the benefit of...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    Fine, translate this how you will: Given our selection of processor, we can pretty much choose any of the midrange performance motherboards on the market and come close to our target 3.6GHz. But this is not a reasonable target for this chip. And no as you've already said and as I've...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    sanitydc and xman: No offense, I'm sure you just missed it in the details: the hole is at 9x350-9x390. Most ppl hit the hole and bump up to 8x390 and go up from there. If you are running 8x400 it doesn't mean you got a 'binned' part like anand, I'm sure the hole is there for you as with...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    First, thanks for the detailed and unemotional response. Its good to see someone who wants to talk the facts and not just creatively find a way to flame. OK, so your Thermalright had an uneven base as have so very many now. Obviously a production quality issue. Of course anandtech got a hand...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    Once again, twisting my words seems to be your specialty. Maybe thats from all your argument practice on forums... Yes, I said I had decided to buy the E4300 in the week before the mid range guide came out. This was based upon their E4300 review. Two day after I purchased the mid range guide...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    1. Look idiot just because I say the reviews are not legit does not mean they are biased. It just means they are wrong. 10 posters figured this out, yet you still don't get it. 2. You are making false assumptions just to build an argument on nothing. Why not tell me what I had for breakfast...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    The first fallacy of logic, when you can't stand up to their argument, call em names.
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    NO YOURE WRONG IT *IS NOT* ABOUT MY HARDWARE. IT IS ABOUT EVERY DS3 BOARD EVER SOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have to be pretty dense to have not figured this out yet...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    And yet still nobody has touched the point that the DS3 simply does not operate in the range tested by Anandtech. Clearly a custom built part that they tested.
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    Sorry but everything you've said is full of $hit. Never in any point did I say Anandtech is biased. NEVER. And your entire post is about me saying Anandtech is biased. Here I will quote myself since you are so good at paraphrasing me and taking everything out of context " I've loved this...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    Have you heard of read a thread before posting? THIS IS NOT ABOUT MY HARDWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hopefully the next guy will READ THIS before responding.
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    I expected the flamers whos lives and therefore egos revolve around this site, but thank you for your reasonable and thoughtful response. And thanks for not *trying* to miss the point which is of course that Anand has come to rely on manufacturer supplied parts for their reviews, parts which are...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    OK, before this spins out of control people talking about *my* overclock, lets be clear, THIS THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY OC! Done shouting now. But if you respond that this thread is because I didn't get the OC Anand got then you didn't read the thread. The point is Anand is getting...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    I have to admit I have never heard of anything more ridiculous than someone with 3000 posts who doesn't read a thread before responding...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    The quote above is copy/pasted from NewEgg and I assure you it's legit! As I stated before I have also had excellent service with NewEgg and have used them almost exclusively for my online purchases since before they were NewEgg. But try to RMA this product by logging in, clicking on MyOrders...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    Yep, you will have to use 8x. And your test is valid. You don't have to have an E4300. The point is that Anand got a board that did 9x378 and in production 9x350-410 is totally dead. They didn't get an exception and 'binned' part, theirs was flat out custom made. I understand that...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    Duwelon, Haha I read the first line and actually started responding, that I use AS-5, and a very very thin coat very even so no bubbles, etc... OK, fair enough, joke's on me :)
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    First thanks for all the replies. I'll try to address your responses one by one: manimal, Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad that you took the time to check Anandtech's recent mid range buyer's guide and confirm what I said before responding. And I'm glad you agree that 3.6 is a ridiculous...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    Manimal, Thank you for the reply and the suggestion. I should have also mentioned that when I tried to RMA the Thermalright through NewEgg, NewEgg already removed support! This is the first time I have seen them not support a product they sold so very quickly. Apparently they are absolutely...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    Please take your troll sensor off and read it for the facts. Then please search DS3 cold boot issue. Then please research what actual users are getting with the E4300 and how many are getting above 3.2 ghz and how legitimate it is of anand to say to EXPECT 3.6 ghz from this chip. Then please...
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    Anand Reviews Still Legit?

    *************EDIT: THIS POST HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH *MY PARTICULAR PARTS* AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT ANANDTECH TESTED PARTS MATCH THOSE GENERALLY IN PRODUCTION OR WHETHER THEIR PARTS ARE BINNED BY MANUFACTURERS, AND IN THE CASE OF THE DS3 BOARD FLAT OUT CUSTOM MADE.***************...
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