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    Can I pair a GTX260 with an 8800GT? How will that work?

    That's what I thought. : ( Thanks for the quick reply.
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    Can I pair a GTX260 with an 8800GT? How will that work?

    I see the vanilla 260 is 259.00 bucks with a 40 dollar rebate on newegg. Mighty tempting. My 8800GT still seems adequate. The only way I could justify dropping 220 on another card at this time is if I could pair it with the 8800GT. I've never ran two cards before and I was just curious how...
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    Best 19" Widescreen LCD

    I've got a Samsung SyncMaster 906bw that has been kicking butt for around 18 months now. Got it for like $220 new. Dont know about newer models, but this model is under 200 bucks now. It's got a 2ms Grey To Grey refresh, pretty good for gaming.
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    How Hot Does your 8800 GT OC Run?

    I've got the same card. Mine idles at 34C and I haven't seen it break 60C under load yet. Glad I got it.
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    *DEAD* 8800GTs BACK IN-STOCK and $208 (MSI) and $235 (XFX) at Dell!

    Dang. I've been checking that thread and this must be very recent info because I just ordered an XFX 8800GT from Buy.com. The list price was 278.99 and I signed up for their sharky credit card to get the 30 dollars off which brought it down to 255.88 with shipping. I'm still not sure if...
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    I am gonna buy my GT for 200$, in two weeks when the 3800 is out.

    Yeah I had had a thread out a while back about the sad current state in the graphics card market. The release of the 8800GT is quite an improvement price/performance wise, you already know. I wonder if it had anything to do with the 50 some odd lawsuits Nvidia/ATI were facing over price fixing...
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    Anyhow- if you guys wanna keep going I'll be back in a day. But I feel we're pretty much done here, no? It's been fun.
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    Wow you guys are good. Who taught you how to post? You not only completely ignored a good example of the ridiculousness in the market that simply is what it is... but you then put words in my mouth. Good job.
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    Sacrifices in their lives? For IQ? Someone needs to start an 800 help hotline for such people...
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    Ah, an honest person. :) And if you had fun and feel it was in a way, worth it; I guess that's all that really matters. But for me, and many others, it's all about real value.
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    If this works out, the graphics card market will adjust in the consumer's favor nicely.
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    Never see this on the internet where I do all my component shopping. In fact I picked up an AMDK6 550 for 5 dollars a couple years ago for a friend who still had an OLD AMD machine with that same socket and installed it for him as a B-day gift. *shrugs* Perhaps if the cards are pawned off to a...
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    Like I said- I posted this thread at a few places around the web initially and it faired much better. Also, I refined the original write up after reading and looking into what these fussy ones are clamoring about- and then posted it at a few other enthusiast sites. It's doing much better...
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    Oh I'm an enthuiast every day and have been for about 8 years now- but one without some cushy job, or who's a kid with well to do parents, or someone who has no bills to pay- or some combination thereof.
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    I'm not gonna buy anything. That's kinda the point of this write up. Don't buy. The market sucks. And if either ATI or Nvidia get busted for price fixing; and I come back and rub all your noses in it, any of you gonna cop to it? :P 51 lawsuits... those are pretty good odds.
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    My bad- forgot an "S." Make that an 8600GTS. Linky Yeah I know- it's only 1 generation ago; and it's an x1950PRO, not a x1900GT. I could not find a direct comparison for an x1900GT to an 8600GTS... but I did find a comparison on the 1900GT to the Pro; and they are very similar performing...
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    I understand that, I do.... BUT- can't the price/performance curve at least be REASONABLE. If you check this link: Clicky You can see a comparison of the 8800 series. From the GTX to the Ultra in 3DMark06; there's a 5% difference in their scores. FIVE PERCENT... and at one point there was...
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    Lol. ORLY? I'm just a guy who came to the position he's at after one night of looking at the facts out there, who doesn't mind arguing with a bunch of sensitive 8800 owners drawn to this thread like moths to a flame. Unexpected... Intersting... Not a dissapointment... But- this thread has...
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    Who's doing the twisting... "Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks" ... and they are indeed more expensive than previous generations- most evidenced in the rising price ceiling for these cards and the rising prices of the cards from high-low end ranges. I've said it plenty of times before- the...
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    ATI is every bit the offender Nvidia is. ATI's offense at this time is much more subtle than Nvidia's- but it's not like I have mentioned it before. You've conveniently overlooked it. They're guilty of keeping prices on their underperforming and older cards artificially high, when cards that...
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    When the "conroe" equivalent of a graphics card comes out soon enough after the new fab process; and the dust settles from these price fixing lawsuits- I think you'll understand why I use the phrase "victims." I'm just explaining myself over and over again to a group of testy 8800 owners each...
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    Nope- wasn't me. Never said it.
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    And does anyone remember this one two pages ago?
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    And now it's the 8800 GTX Whatever happened to 8800 Series that cainam mentioned when you decided to piggy back on his post; jump me- and put words in my mouth? Pffft. Whatever.
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    Eh? I said it can keep up with the current crop of games by turning down the settings. Same thing all these 8800 victims will be doing in a short while... only they'll be turning down those settings a hell of a lot more grudingly knowning they spent 450-600 dollars when those cards launched. :P
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    How is that utter crap? Some guy said the 8800 series offers double the performance of anything from the 7 series or x1K series. I told him he was full of crap; and what easier way is there to do it than to show benches in which an 8800 series card LOSES to a 7 series or x1K series card...
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    I really don't think any graphics card is worth that. I'd never spend that much on one. Now we are seeing them pass 800 dollars, 900 dollars- when's it gonna stop? This price gouging didn't start with the 8800 series cards no, but it is certainly becoming out of control now.
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    I find myself turning down the settings on new games so my X1900GT can keep up too... difference between what I'm doing now and what you'll be doing with a G80 in 6 months to a year? I paid 200 bucks for mine. What'd you pay for yours?
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    Check the other benchmarks in that review. That's the conclusion page- but Doom3 also happens to be there; and happens to be the only benchmark that the 8800 won conclusively in. It gets beat in at least one configuration in every other title. And yeah- benchmarks are going to be very...
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    ... please see, and possibly read... the original post for all sorts of links to benchmarks.
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    Did you check the benchmarks? 8800 series cards have been beaten often by high end 7900 series cards; and in some cases- X1900/1950 series. What more do you need to understand that the 8800 is a step and not a leap? Furthermore- my E6600 has got to be 8-10 times more powerful than my old P4...
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    Because the more power a component uses; the more heat it produces- and I like my components to stay cool with the least amount of effort. Who doesn't? And I have a 700W PSU for the same reason I have a mobo which supports both xFire AND SLI- I like to have options... and who doesn't?
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    Oh- and I completely forgot to mention the X2900XT. Right now it's a lame duck. I've said this elsewhere and I'll say it again... Some folks feel there's a cap to how much performance you can gain from improving drivers; and I agree. Other folks feel the drivers that x2900XT debuted with...
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    A cheap Antec case very similiar to this one: Clicky Identical in size/design. Can't remember the exact model number. I have modded the case though with a two new 80mm fans on the sides- and the drive conversion bay that takes up the top 3 5.25" bays has a 120mm fan in front of it. So there's...
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    I understand the way things work in the PC components market. You buy something, shortly thereafter something new comes out- and it drops in price when that something new takes it's place... That's not how today's graphics card market is working at all. That is the biggest problem. Not...
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    Why Today's Graphics Card Market Sucks

    Backstory: I'm a working stiff. I make enough to cover my bills and save a fair amount every month. At the beginning of this year, I set out to put together a new PC by purchasing one component at a time; each at the right time. I've never taken this approach and it's worked out well...
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