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    Anticipating the Noctua R-ANC successor to NH-D14

    Well as far as heat sinks are concerned we are pretty close to the ambient air version to Moore's law. water may be the interim solution for overclocking. but billions are being spent to resolve this issue, some solutions on the exotic side...
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    Anticipating the Noctua R-ANC successor to NH-D14

    One idea I like is the Stirling engine http://www.tweaktown.com/news/9051/msi_employs_stirling_engine_theory/index.html allot of people have been playing around with this for a hundred years and recently I think some breakthroughs on performance with solar applications. I would like to think...
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    Anticipating the Noctua R-ANC successor to NH-D14

    Evidently the idea has been around for a while. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dymalloy And much researched Characterization of various metal matrix composite thermal management materials http://udini.proquest.com/view/characterization-of-various-metal-pqid:1863925311/ My guess is like the...
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    Anticipating the Noctua R-ANC successor to NH-D14

    I think to make a heat pipe is not to hard - take a tube and coat the inside with a light oil & then apply a copper powder with large enough particles so it is porous. or use a screen or some metal wool heat it up to sinter the particles together. oil burns off clean the inside of both...
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    Anticipating the Noctua R-ANC successor to NH-D14

    Silver is only 5% (?) better than copper. Heat pipes in of themselves are pretty damn good and transfer heat 100X - 200X that of diamond. The limitation of course ends up being the containment structure material like copper and the interface resistances of base and fins to the pipe. So...
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    Anticipating the Noctua R-ANC successor to NH-D14

    I can not say as I have not really looked to hard at Heat Pipes nor done any in depth analysis on them. My thermal cascade comparison was kind of a mental averaging from some thermosyphon and water block tests a couple of years ago. In any event you only have about 6-7C margin in temp rise...
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    Anticipating the Noctua R-ANC successor to NH-D14

    Very interesting post and I think marks a turning point on limits of performance. over the last 15 years I have watched HS performance improvements almost on a monthly basis Aluminum to copper to more airflow to heat pipes etc. The end product here 6/12 heat pipes, 2 120mm fans and is the size...
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    Thermal Compound On Core i7 2600k Heatsink

    Just to go on record here and respond to post # 23 by DLeRium http://innovationcooling.com/image/icreport3.pdf PROCEDURE: FMS respects the Forensic Best Practice Guidelines as set out by the Scientific Working Group on Imaging Technology (“SWGIT”) and the Scientific Working Group on...
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    Bare-die testing: A delidded 3770k, an H100, and 9 different TIMs

    2 major failure points for thermal compound are Pump Out which occurs with thermal cycling, the expansion and contraction of the joint literally pumps liquid/compound out from between the mating surfaces. The other is Bake Out where a high heat load dries out the compound and leaves voids in...
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    Bare-die testing: A delidded 3770k, an H100, and 9 different TIMs

    From a reliability Survey we are doing Long Term reliability hinges on good contact and presssure additionally you need a high viscosity (Thick) compound, OEM's recommend +90% bulk loading for the simple reason it is harder to pump out a solid vs. a liquid hence the clay like consistancy
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    Assimilator1, Rudy Toody - good to see you guys still kicking. so application must be 4 going on 5 years since the thread started? I like the reliability feed back, good stuff. In any event this was pretty interesting- go to 4.08 min. on the video and freeze it...
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    I have been watching the thread with some interest, excellent! I think his testing is very accurate I can see from the paste impression that he has good contact as in the second test above full contact but a little light on pressure probably between 30 and 40 psi from the grease thickness but I...
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    We have been doing a IC Diamond Reliability Survey over at Notebook Review with some interesting results, although only halfway through the survey a major factor in long term reliability relates to Contact and Pressure as we went through the process here with C/P and performance same applies to...
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    Delidded my i7-3770K, loaded temperatures drop by 20°C at 4.7GHz

    I am not convinced on this one If that were true, Aluminum oxide the preferred abrasive for etching glass and is used in AS5,Shin Etsu, Mx-4 etc. would be causing wholesale slaughter of IHS serial numbers with an MOHS of 9 and similar particle sizes. Nothing is going to move if your sink is...
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    Delidded my i7-3770K, loaded temperatures drop by 20°C at 4.7GHz

    No problem with a bare die, IC Diamond is used extensively on bare die applications Notebooks, GPU's with no damage, I even have a gpu application with a contact pressure test of over 90 psi and no damage. While diamond is harder than most materials it is only incrementally so The metal oxides...
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    Thermal Compound On Core i7 2600k Heatsink

    The better the mechanical contact the better the heat transfer. If you are looking for lower temps that would a positive criteria. If you are looking for easy removal as a priority and willing to sacrifice some performance then another choice might be appropriate. One shoe does not fit everybody...
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    Thermal Compound On Core i7 2600k Heatsink

    Must be the heat. The diamond we buy for our compound is purchased from one of the largest diamond suppliers in the country, the same sources and sizes that are used for optical lapping. The diamond we buy is commonly referred to in the biz as a flour. Now if I magnify your pictures 250%...
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    Thermal Compound On Core i7 2600k Heatsink

    FAQ on the scratch issue Some background on the subject - 100 years of standard Industry practice on abrasives is well documented and well understood by those in the business. Most thermal compounds are liquid sandpaper or lapping compounds by definition. Light gray compounds are...
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    Noctua NH-D14 very high temprature

    Have been looking extensively at the bowed bases recently. below a link to a review where the reviewer lapped the base and combined with paste had an overall improvement of 5C - also have another guy on a giveaway @ ocuk up to 7 C improvement lapping bowed base and IHS he also does a great...
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    spending most of my time marketing and automating syringe filling so fun projects are sidelined. probably have to consult with a pastry chef on that one. latest total results from around 20 forums - doing one in the UK now and have another one in Germany starting Tuesday hope to hit a 1000 by...
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    Great Idea! Instead of syringes I can sell little packs of Mentos or Tic Tac's! Candy manufacturer probably could provide good input on how to do it. Follow up for you Rudy on the torque project one user took it up on his own and it worked well...
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    it's so thick people replace the GPU pad with IC Diamond on laptops, been doing that for a year and half now with no problems. Tried doing a single application where you sandwich the compound between two pieces low surface tension materials, problem was we could not get to release as it...
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    shipping a lot of paste to the notebook guys - what surprises me is how much they charge for a paste install $40- $60 on an install and the highest I have seen is $129.00 mostly labor I think. lol, maybe I am not charging enough
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    Lots of notebook people on the re-paste track these days http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/511600-my-repaste-experience-pics-success-2.html
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    Haven't visited you people in awhile Updating my charts this weekend and hit the 500+ user tests milestone. Raw data chart, haven't broken out he individual competition compounds yet, getting a little crowded
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    Yeesh IC Diamond 7 is some crazy stuff

    It's been out for a couple of years with no problems and may be a localized issue that's magnified under the the lens of the forum. To address this, I have a giveaway going on at Tom's Hardware and I will ask them for observations wear and tear. I use the compound every day and do not share...
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    Yeesh IC Diamond 7 is some crazy stuff

    Addressing a simple or basic point - Abrasives Have to move to work Under pressure if you rotate the sink you might polish the high spots slightly otherwise it is static, not moving and abrasives have to move in order to work. You can do the same with ceramic or metal oxides thermal...
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    Yeesh IC Diamond 7 is some crazy stuff

    Note from the manufacturer We have had much long term feed back from people with two years installs with no change in temps or issues with "etching" The material components of IC Diamond are about as inert as you can get, otherwise the compound is comprised mostly of carbon...
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    We have incorporated a new label design on our syringes -tried to add on some racing stripes but they didn't fit
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    How long have the 3 machines been running since ICD installation? I like to get longevity info
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    Europe is a mixed bag - Poland, England does well, Germany OK. Distributor we selected really was not doing his job, for instance they had the UK territory and had not shipped any product and after after a year and a half we ended up selling direct to the resellers with no problems. This has...
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    Holy Moley, this is like going from blind to 3D color being able to post pics. Great improvement finally able to post your results Stacks up pretty well to the overall averages within a couple tenth's
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    391 user tests - thought you early testers would be interested in the multiforum breakout. Laptop stuff is new Multiforum tests here
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    Much appreciated but not needed at this point - I have other data points from other tests you performed. I kinda have to finalize results as I go or I would be editing constantly as I have done about 10 of these to date and at some point I have to fix the data. I am working on a break...
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    lol, our vaporware problem. We are watching the economy closely and are cautious on taking on capital expenditures at this point. Basically the USA is in default, every pension fund in the country is underwater, commercial foreclosures are hitting the fan, Alt A's are close behind, U6...
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    As you guys were one of the early testers of IC Diamond I thought you would like to see an update on our progress scroll down for test results and reviews updated results
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    Pretty comprehensive altogether - I am surprised at how congested the market is and he did not include many of the OEM brands. he would have pushed it over 50 different compounds if he had included those It took me almost 2 years to generate 9 reviews, not like heat sinks that get reviewed...
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    How is this for ambitious? 44 pastes tested http://www.hwreviewlabs.com/in...Itemid=47&limitstart=3"
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    Latest Beta test results coming in @ http://www.overclock.net/cooli...-thermal-compound.html"]Overclockers.net[/URL] for those that like paste comparisons
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    ICD 7 Test Results

    An ICD7 review from the Greeks Results Here
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