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    Low Profile Without External Power

    That is a common mistake RS. Low profile does not mean single slot. It means half height (even though it is not exactly half height). It can fit in a case that is narrower than normal. It has a smaller end bracket as well. This is a low profile card The first image show the card with a...
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    Low Profile Without External Power

    That's not a low profile card RussianSensation. If it was I'd be a happy man :) There was an Apollo card around a little while back which was a 4650 with DDR3 memory. Seems to have disappeared from Newegg though, but would've been your best ATI offering and you might be able to find it...
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    Low profile GPU coolers

    Anyone tried replacing fan and heatsink for low profile graphic cards? As far as I can tell my Sapphire does not have heat sinks on the ram and the current cooler/sink makes adding them impossible on some of the chips. Now, I haven't taken the current setup off, but from what I can see on the...
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    Why doesn't ATI have the best low profile gpu?

    Hi Zap. Thanks for your comments. I understand the difficulties with making low profile cards and I myself did pay a premium for the 4650. Guessing about 20-30% more and with somewhat less performance. Thing is, I was happy to pay more. I only wish I'd've waited a couple more weeks and got...
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    Why doesn't ATI have the best low profile gpu?

    First off, thanks everyone for a spirited discussion as always whenever graphics are mentioned. Now, for those of you who didn't get it my post about having AMDs babies is obviously a joke. I'm male so that's not possible... DAAMIT... Secondly, if I can draw your attention to my OP I have the...
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    Why doesn't ATI have the best low profile gpu?

    That's kind of irrelevant you know... but ok... it's gonna toast a 350w PSU... or at least torture it until it cries and dies :) and I want an AMD gpu as the only gfx card I have ever owned that's died was an Nvidia (oh and Nvidia trying to corner GPGPU with CUDA instead of going OpenCL plus I...
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    Why doesn't ATI have the best low profile gpu?

    Since last year I have been patiently awaiting a killer low profile graphics solution from my dear friends at AMD and yet, every week I get disappointed. What I cannot understand is this: If they can created the smallest chips with the lowest power requirements why on earth can't someone put...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    No no no no nooooooooooo.... For me that is.... http://www.apollovcard.com/Pro...-HD4650_512MB_DDR3.htm Low profile 4650 with DDR3 Ram... Ok, so I'll admit to not knowing much about Apollo as a manufacturer but here it is... a better one. I suppose the 1400mhz ram is in fact 2 x 700mhz and...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    Hi northtexan95. The autotune is a bit... optimistic I think. It gave me GPU 765 and mem 500. This couldn't complete a 3dMark06 run. So back to what I normally do which is manual tweaking. I'd recommend you try memory first. Leave the GPU at the default 600 and see how far the ram can go. If...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    ExarKun333... Didn't plan on doing much gaming on it no... didn't plan on using it alone either. The only reason I considered the 3450 as an interim solution (which I hope I made clear) is that it can do hybrid crossfire. Now, on a 1440x900 resolution you'd be surprised that you can happily play...
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    Anyone else notice the lack of HD 4670 low profile cards?

    Thanks for that Zap. I would say that giving people the option to choose low profile double slot cards is still good. Personally I haven't checked my mobo to see if I could but I know the only space next to the gfx slot is a x1 which I more than happily would sacrifice. Then again, I wouldn't go...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    The egg has listened to you :) http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814102829 Currently at US$54.99 which probably makes it worth my while getting one in from overseas... The wait does at least seem to be over... :) or nearly over...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    Hi Bluemax. Did I see on another forum that you've cancelled your order as well? I've seen that Sapphire has a 4650 low profile out/coming out... Not listed on the Sapphire website though. It is listed as In Stock in some Australia e-tailers but I'm doubtful... the gfx saga continues. O await...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    Thank you ExarKun333. That was extremely helpful. While we are nitpicking it I'd contend that it is logical to me as my experience is less than satisfactory with Nvidia chips and the fastest way for me to get a 4670 (which was the one I really wanted) would be to get a new case. Anyway...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    Update: I have cancelled my order. Not sure who is at fault here but I think Powercolor should remove the product from their product line as it is not in store anywhere in the world to my knowledge. I was told yesterday (which was ETA in store) that there is no stock with distributor and ETA is...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    I suppose you have to ask yourself which games you play and at what resolution and detail settings. If you feel you will need to compromise already then you will be using an outdated graphics card from the get go. I've ordered the powercolor 4650 myself and feel at 1440 x 900 my gaming...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    As far as I've been able to find out the 9600Green is not a low profile card though. They might make a low profile though which would make it a very interesting card indeed. It think the price/performance ratio between the 4650 and the 9600GT is about right so I'll pay less but get less for the...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    Anyone been able to find any benchmarks with a standard 4650? I've been going crazy trying to find one but all anyone seems to ever have benched is the Sapphire OC which seems to use Gddr3 and is clocked a fair way away from 600gpu and 400(800) mem. It doesn't need to be a review of one of...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    Hi BlueAcolyte. I was pretty sure the same underfill was used for the desktop components, but you are right in that they have not been failing like the notebook chips. Mainly for me it just doesn't inspire confidence and having been one of those unfortunate with a 7 series notebook chip that...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    Hi Bluemax. If I look at the prices for the 9600gt and the 4650(+ low profile bracket) the prices in Australian dollars is $113 for the 4650 and $167 for the 9600gt. I'd rather not touch another Nvidia what with having one die on me and the this...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    Hi IndigoAtaxia. Actually I ordered from http://www.bttech.com.au/power...-4650-512-p-24826.html but again it's in Australia. It should be mentioned though that they are keeping me waiting. Placed the order on the 11th with ETA to the store on the 18th, then on the 18th I get a new ETA for...
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    Anyone else notice the lack of HD 4670 low profile cards?

    I ordered the Powercolor. Was told it would be in stock in Australia 18th Feb, then on the 18th they told me ETA 11th of March... Kind of tempted to get the 9600gt instead. Sick and tired of waiting. That's a month after ordering it now cause I pre-ordered. Thing is I reaaaaally would rather...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    Sad to say my hybrid crossfire venture actually failed for Fallout 3. Unsure of the reason and too old to bother trying to figure it out. So that's the bad news and the good news is that the overclocked 780G (onboard) is what was managing to play it in 1024 x 768 all on it's lonesome. Good boy...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    Yeah, I know that Nvidia has the better low profile cards (for now) but it'll take a while before I shell out cash for a Nvidia card. Damn 7800 gtx died (not overclocked in any way) 2 months out of warranty. I agree BlueAcolyto that it blows that the Powercolor uses DDR2. If it was a 4670 I'd...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    Ooh. Powercolor has released a 4650 low profile card: http://www.powercolor.com/eng/...res.asp?ProductID=5217 Took my threat seriously then... Nearly a 4670 and might just do!
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    Don't have the exact numbers but overclocked 780G with sideport memory in hybrid crossfire with a oem 2400pro scored over 3100 3dmark06 (1280x1024 standard settings). Fairly happy with this. Couldn't overclock the 2400pro though which might have added a bit more. Was able to at least play...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    Well, I've just realised something rather nice. The fact that hybrid crossfire now works on Windows XP. So, that opens up the door for the 3450 and 3650 low profile cards. Teamed with the 780g I should have something that approximates moderate gaming and I don't need to shell out $$$ to Nvidia...
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    Sparkle 9800gt low profile

    Hooray, another low profile thread :) I believe there is a lot of interest in low profile performance graphic cards and smaller computers in general. And the cards are out there in mobile form anyway so why not give desktop users the option as well. Should be a fairly simple matter to change...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    I'd find it tricky to mod my case though and I am unsure whether a riser will work and outside the case is gonna be a nono :) Got a Minuet 350 which has a 350 80+ PSU. I'd buy the 9600GT but... dead gfx card too fresh in my memory. Pretty sure something will pop up in the next 1-2 months. So...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    Maybe it is too much work, but if Galaxy can create a 9600GT then surely someone can release a similar ATI card. I suppose nothing will happen before the 4xxx series hits laptops. Then it should be a fairly straightforward affair to create a low profile card. Just checked on the AMD/ATI...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    Hi Zap. Thanks for the welcome :) I might be holding out too much hope that hardware manufacturers will at some point realise that there is a market for those of us that don't want gaming laptops and also want small computers with a bit of grunt. I owned an XPS M170 where the nVidia 7800...
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    Best Low Profile Card?

    I have been searching for an ATI low profile card for the last few months and cannot believe that no-one has released anything besides the 4550. Virtually every review of the 4670 has a post or two about people running to the shops to buy a low profile version when released. I know that is...
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