The tone [of AMDs response] suggests an oversight on the part of the AIBs. And AMD in the statement said We [AMD] will remedy the situation in partnership with AIBs/retailers. Throwing the AIBs under the bus would be something along the lines of saying that AIBs/retailers/etc were intentionally...
By demonstrating such tactics, I mean specifically blaming or burning bridges with AIBs/retailers/etc like AMD's primary competitors in the CPU + GPU space have done on multiple occasions, not the segmenting of similar cards with slightly cut down specs.
The deception or fault lies with the AIBs + retailers in not disclosing the difference in technical specs of these cards whether they were labelled as 560D or not. Of course AMD will take the heat on this issue with their released statement, both because it would be economically foolish to call...
Anandtech (as well as Tom's HG + Others) is a Purch Media owned outlet of which Intel and nVidia are clients. I don't have to read the AT story to know it will be pro their clients and anti AMD as a result, facts be damned in many cases.
These ARE 560D cards that either the AIBs and/or...
These are simply the 560D cards that were supposedly released for the China-only markets. AMD announced this in July of 2017. Looks like (some?) AIBs chose not to label/advertise them as such, and then the anti-AMD brigade simply shouted from the rooftops that AMD is attempting to swindle or...
The R7 desktop parts offer the analagous comparison here. Consider the mobile 4C+8T APU part the 1700. Same core + thread count as the 1700X & 1800X with lower base/turbo clocks + less GPU CUs to fit into the lower TDP. Then the desktop 4C+8T APUs would be the 1700X & 1800X in this...
Unlikely. The G in that case would mean the 2700G has a higher (Desktop-level) TDP, so higher CPU + GPU base/turbo/core clocks and/or higher GPU CU count would be expected in those (DT) APU parts versus the mobile APU offerings, rather than anything beyond 4C+8T. At least that seems the logical...
As the image above shows of the AM4 naming scheme, the 7 (in 2700) in the alleged Ryzen 7 2700U leak simply denotes that it would be the Enthusiast-level (in performance) part in the mobile APU product stack, not that it would have the same core+thread count as it's AM4 desktop-counterpart...
RE: Vega-specific game engine optimizations/patches
A few more thoughts. AMD themselves (the recent Chris Hook interview with [H]) have stated that Vega is late. What if although not yet publicly-disclosed, some of the major game-engine devs were ready with some of their Vega-specific...
Or it could mean that any Vega-specific optimizations/patches [game engine/dev-side or otherwise] simply won't be disclosed until they are released and/or available to the gaming public.
RMA a perfectly functioning MoBo for a nearly microscopic cosmetic blemish? 100% No, IMO.
RMA a GPU for coil whine? That would be a personal choice as we all have different hearing and respond to frequency anomalies/aggravations in our own individual ways.
AMD appears to be selling significant volume of desktop Ryzens. Based on the rumored cost per [$50-60 per for Ryzen then X2 for Threadripper and X4 for Epyc] Zeppelin to manufacture/test/package them, coupled with the rumored [Over 80%, with 95% or more of produced chips per wafer capable of...
Non-issue, IMO. Looking at the following image of Threadripper, one can see that on each "side" of the package there are two rounded indentions close together with a third further down.
Now looking at the socket area of the X399 Mobo pictured here, one can see the corresponding pairs of...
1. Quite certain Intel had no intention of bringing the higher core counts of X299 to the desktop/HEDT consumer space AT ALL at least not for YEARS. So, IMO, it's not correct to say X299 has been delayed to 2018 onward, but probably more accurate to say it's being pulled FORWARD as a response to...
There is also the possibility that your stick has been SPD corrupted by either Asus Aura or Gskill's LED software rather than the stick being completely dead/bad:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1624603/rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread/17660_20#post_26125524
If this is the case, a complete...
Bad Analogy. A car without a steering wheel cannot (safely) fulfill the essential purpose of a means of transportation. The Ryzen CPUs/platform CAN and DO currently fulfill their essential purpose even with the teething issues being experienced on this new platform.
A more correct comparison...
Thanks for all the hard work you've provided us with all of this Ryzen testing, first of all.
As for reversed charts, using Pale Moon, the charts [in both Single Thread + Multi-Thread sections] are reversed for me as well. Appears that the charts themselves are misnamed [Excavator-named charts...
To be clear: You still need to use a USB stick/drive (on the designated USB port for BIOS in the case of the C6H) with the BIOS you're flashing to when using the Asus BIOS flashing utility.
Point being to utilize the flash utility WITHIN the Asus BIOS rather than any Windows BIOS software to do...
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RE: flashing BIOS on Asus Mobos:
From following the C6H thread [with elmor + Raja of Asus] @ OCN, flash using the utility in the Asus BIOS should take Minutes, while flashing through Windows can take hours. Flash using the Asus BIOS utility is preferred, FWIW.
3 hours of your life that you can't get back. Do yourself a favor: place these types of forum posters on ignore and move on with your forum life. Their sole purpose in tech forums is not to acquiesce to truth/facts/reason, but to push a singular agenda no matter what.
@swilli89
There is a sub-segment within the AMD camp who will not purchase any Intel product precisely because of those contra-revenue/bribes/monopolistic & criminal tactics Intel has perpetrated on the CPU side. Same goes for nVidia on the GPU side, with respect to only purchasing AMD products...
Intel appears to be playing the role of 1990 Mike Tyson, while AMD appears to be playing the role of Buster Douglas. All indications are that Intel is about to be crawling around on the mat looking for it's mouthpiece, which is somehow fitting with all the mouthpieces inundating the forums at...
I've been around the pc/tech forums long enough to recognize an intentional group effort that is wholly separate from fan-boyism or scattered trolling.
I find it at least partially entertaining that long dormant or "quiet" accounts are suddenly coming out of sleep mode to join the deflate/defuse the imminent release of RyZen brigade. Ryzen must be quite a significant product stack for the hate, vitriol and blind, laughable foolish-ness to reach...
The attempts to ignore, refute, dis-inform, FUD-ify and/or diminish the combination of New Horizon demos and this CPC preview are getting even more hilarious.
Stolen.FAKED. Estimations. It's all been a complete figment of our collective imaginations, yeah, that's the ticket.
http://www.bitsandchips.it/english/52-english-news/7837-ryzen-had-a-higher-than-usual-vcore-during-new-horizon-event
"According to our sources, in order to avoid a crash during RyZen presentation, AMD has set up a higher than usual vCore. This explain the high full load power consumption of...
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.bitsandchips.it/hardware/9-hardware/7785-confermato-la-nostra-anteprima-zen-avra-l-ihs-saldato&edit-text=&act=url
"...AM4 CPU will have the IHS welded to Die , is to ensure better dissipation ( here an...
Point being, it is factually incorrect to state "Zen is 2017" unless specifically stating that "Zen" in this context means Server and/or Zen-core APU variants.
Because this is about trying to get as many folks as possible to BELIEVE their lies BEFORE 480 is released, so that as many as possible will BUY NVIDIA cards BEFORE 480 launches.
ONCE 480 releases, the truth of 480's performance/stock/OC-ability/etc will be known, and this fud and its...
For this "crew" in general, bias is defined as:
1. NOT doing open-air testing without warm-up to hide throttling of nvidia cards ala TPU...
2. NOT using overclocked nVidia cards compared to stock-clocked AMD offerings to put nVidia cards in the best (manipulated) light..
3. If DX12 games and...
We can't, that much is plain and clear to all but the most willingly blind amongst us.
As evidenced by their actions over the last several weeks, even some of [H]'s most ardent followers are beginning to see and admit the no-longer hidden, off the charts bias that continues to be exhibited by...
TLDR: Clowns Gonna Clown, when called on the Clownishness, Clowns double or triple down.
Damn shame because once upon a time, [H] was a force in the tech community, now they will be consigned to the dustbins of history as bought and paid for clowns.
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