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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    Ok, if ya wanna nit-pick.... Like all things in reality (unlike the un-reality of theoretical mathematics-- ever seen a perfect circle? Ever calculated Pi?), things change and there are no constants, no guarantees; even the supposed "law" of gravity became obsolete with Einsteinian relativity...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    The first value that I came up with was PRIOR to my rather extensive statistical analysis regarding a generational progressive rate. I admit that I sorta just guesstimated the first value based on the thinking that the value will be significantly lower than a 2x theoretical increase and at least...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    . was about to post something that didn't make any sense...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    No, why would I be saying that?! That's just crazy! People should obviously only ever buy cards from the future... geez. What I was obviously trying to say was that while the 8800gt was a pretty good value THEN at its original price relative to its competition, the 9600gt at that price relative...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    No. Read the first page again-- I said that going from one generation to the next, you should be getting MORE performance for the SAME amount of money (OR the SAME performance for LESS, relatively/proportionately speaking). If you wait two generations, you should get more for less. The frame...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    Re. the 9600gt quote, you still don't get it.. it's RELATIVE P/P value. It's timeless. I already did... it's called the numerous examples contained within the first post! If you don't get the formula already, I can't say anything more to help explain it. So you don't have any kind of...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    Heck yeah, Edplayer, that is what I call extremely good value! Very nearly 8800gt performance at 1/4 the cost from what one would have spent a year ago! (which, if we assume a doubling of performance/price per year-- which is overly optimistic-- that beats it by ~2:1, thus, it is much closer to...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    Just one polite question: ARE YOU GUYS TRYING TO MAKE ME GO INSANE? Because that seems to be your guys' purpose here posting on this thread. Can I prove the claim that I just made beyond doubt? I think so, yes: Please note that within the guide/tool it mentions AT LEAST half a dozen times...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    I sincerely thank you for the attempt to make this a better thread, AmberClad, I do indeed appreciate it! My response regarding LOUISSSSS is that he asked me for a thorough breakdown of how this method would work for COD3... and I did to the best of my abilities by giving him some rather...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    Yes, Garrity, I took the shortcut once I realized that the 4670 offered great performance on that game. I've already done the overall performance/price comparison, so I just stuck with the 4670--- it should be about 90% accurate between most games. Obviously Louisssss was just trying to screw...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    You completely misunderstood me on that point. What I was saying was that because these newer cards haven't been benchmarked on COD3 (duh), we can look at other, similar, cards which were benched on COD3 and on COD4 and then extrapolate based on results we already have for these new cards on...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    The crossfire solution here will offer better performance/price ratio than a single gtx 280 (although a practical consequence of this, of course, means that if your needs change, you cannot add another card). However, from a purely performance/price ratio, ALL crossfire/SLI solutions are poor as...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    Sounds good to me (in terms of calming down that is!) :) I only put the parts in bold when the formatting might seem ambiguous regarding who wrote what. Sorry, I just get frustrated when I have to repeat myself over and over..., and especially when some posters twist my words and are clearly...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    i really have no idea what you're talking about to be honest. i dont think you've convinced me, or anyone else here to use or even understand your method in any way. where are the answers to my three questions? -first of all i said cod3... why did u even bring up cod4? -you mentioned...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    You obviously just want to pick a fight with me for NO reason! Because you feel it necessary to play with my words and see the interpretation that you want to see so that you can pick a fight! YES, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING-- THEY SHOULD BUY ONE FROM THE FUTURE, STUPID JACKASSES!!!! :roll: See...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    I don't see why you want to pick a fight with me. Why are you warping the truth? THEY'RE GODDAMN EXAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMPLEEESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CAN YOU GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEAD?! I SAID THE 9600GSO WOULD BE A GOOD BUY IF THAT CARD YOU PRICED THAT LOW WAS THE SAME AS THE...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    Thanks for the question! 1) Unfortunately, I can't give you DIRECT numbers of these newer cards being run on COD3... COD4 is another matter entirely, however. The best approach would be to estimate based on statistics the average decrease in performance of vid cards going from COD3 to COD4...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    OH, who's a funny guy? Look at my crysis performance projections for our two favourite purely hypothetical cards. Just try to find significant fault with this assessment. The $1 card is great (especially relative to its competition, which is all that matters... yes! price/performance is relative...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    Hey there Razor, it seems the formatting on the post got messed up, look within it for my whole answer. Actually, that 3dmark06 post was just added on top and was NOT the basis for the whole guide... I wish, that would make it a whole lot faster coming up with those numbers! No, since there...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    Thank you SOOO much for the constructive feedback! Much appreciated..., now, unless you want to provide constructive criticism with fair, balanced, and just feedback, please get lost. First of all, it takes as long as it does to read a couple reviews. Where do you see that anywhere it says...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    can you be more specific? What is it about the specs that would cause a significant decrease in performance? Is the mem bandwidth halved? In that case at your rez, I highly recommend the gt
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    OK, now that's what I call value!!! holy crap! BUT, is that the ddr2 version? Yeah, all I did was check newegg, the real-world comparison part isn't meant to be uber thorough, it's meant to show you trends in the market and product pricing vs relative performance, and just to get you used to...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    You've got a decent point with 3dmark06, I just sort of bolted it on top there as a little extra frame of reference/different perspective (which actually ends up agreeing rather well with my prediction/assessment) THANK YOU!!! That's the very first truly solid compliment I've received so far!
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    Yeah, cuz we all know that 10% extra is sooo worth it! ;) (96 vs 112 shaders... er unless it has half the mem bandwidth, can't remember) And actually, the 4670 has slightly higher performance than the 8800gs
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    Thanks a whole lot for the hugely constructive feedback... very much appreciated! now get lost
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    So you agree you were not being accurate then when you essentially said that it was barely intelligible. Myself, I tend to think that it's about 10x better written than the average forum post. Yeah, I suppose part of the problem is that I set people's expectations too high right off the bat with...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    I don't think you appreciate why this is the 'Ultimate' guide-- it's because it is eternal (well, as long as moore's law holds), other wise, I would have to update this thing every friggin' month! You can use the methods here to ALWAYS guide your purchasing decisions. ALSO, a big issue is that...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    PLEASE... by all means, feel free to show me any section which could accurately be described as "nearly unreadable". thanks a bunch. Oh, and I love it how everyone is so appreciative of the guide or the fact that I at the very least introduced them to some new concepts that they hadn't been...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    I think I addressed the whole 5fps card issue already... such a comparison does NOT exist. It is fiction. Actually, now that I think about it, this comparison CAN NOT exist because card A's performance at that price would be impossible to achieve in comparison to the $100 card. That's how...
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    4670= 8800gs, but is MUCH cheaper!
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    So do I!!! :P But really, the 4670 has 8800gs performance for MUCH less, so I can guarantee you a little more than 5fps ;)
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    The Ultimate Guide/TOOL to help determine ideal Price/Performance!

    I guess it all depends upon your "needs". Somehow though, I suspect your needs depend greatly upon the amount of disposable cash you have. If money is no object, or if you REALLY love ONE particular (horribly unoptimized game-- I know what I'm talking about... I've got crysis running at High on...
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