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    i7-4790 at 90 degrees..toasty

    For a 4790k at 4.4ghz with 1.2v those would be normal temps for stock cooler encoding. For a 4790 at 3.6ghz and vcore should be 1.05 or less, those are high temps for encoding. I would have him check vcore. Either he got a really crappy cpu with high vcore required despite low stock mhz, or...
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    So how are you liking Win10 so far?

    I agree completely. I have been dual booting with 10 and 7 since 10 came out...I like it. I will update to 10 as soon as it is available. While clearly technical build quality, washed out look, driver issues, lot of features probably still in alpha quality and not added yet like wmc, file...
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    Haswell-E Reviews

    +1, DDR4 is more expensive and slower than DDR3...the fastest DDR4 currently out is 3000 CAS 15, which is about 5% slower than common DDR3 2400 CAS 10 in memory benchmarks. But that is just like when DDR3 first came out, it was more expensive and slower than DDR2. Managerman (post 181 link...
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    Cinebench R15 Benchmark Thread

    Not for CB, but running prime at 5ghz with same vcore for 10 mins just to see if it could..
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    Cinebench R15 Benchmark Thread

    4790K at 5.1ghz w/ 1.47v, 2600 mem 10,12,12,31, on water how to take a screen shot
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    You can count on it being paste, just like its non-xeon counterpart
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    anandtechIntel Core i7 4960X (Ivy Bridge E) Review

    If it was a commercial, it was an accurate one. I wouldnt buy IVY E even if same price as Haswell... at 2-3x price, it is a bad joke. It would make sense if Haswell E were released, same single threaded performance, more cores, newest platform...that would be worth a premium price. For...
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    4960X@4.5G vs 3970X@4.5G

    Exactly my issue with IVY E. Older tech/lower IPC for 2-3x cost, just doesnt elicit excitement for me. Intel in past has released high end near same time as performance. They need to fix the bugs and release enthusiast within 6 months after mainstream, instead of getting 2 generations...
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    IVB-E Core i7-4930K Review

    In past server/high end cpus were released at/near/before same time as mainstream. It was only more recently when they separated the platforms that the extreme/server lagged way behind. I wouldnt buy the extreme version in past, since I could spend 1/3 money and OC a cheaper model to same...
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    IVB-E Core i7-4930K Review

    What business genius at intel thinks it is a good idea to sell a slower cpu (on 95% applications that wont use more than 4 cores) many months after a much cheaper, faster cpu has been on the market. If they sold Haswell E now instead of Ivy E, I would buy it. I would pay extra for more cores...
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    Haswell - the silver lining in the cloud

    The computer will simply shut off while trying to load windows, as throttling wont keep the temp at/below tjmax. Then you can disable prochot in bios, and sometimes the computer will shutdown at 125C cpu temp, other times it just pops cpu (? temp rises to fast and damages it prior to...
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    Windows 8 has been banned by the world’s top benchmarking and overclocking site

    I didnt speculate how they figured it out....you read my statement differently than I intended. I will improve my grammar so more clear: "but some people figured out by doing so" substitute "but some people figured out in so doing"
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    Windows 8 has been banned by the world’s top benchmarking and overclocking site

    Anyone who benches knows to get the last 100 mhz you overclock on the fly, not to mention, who benches by restarting the computer each time, that would be incredibly inefficient. But the kicker is you dont typically decrease bclk when benching, but some people figured out by doing so, you can...
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    IVY E uses solder tim as expected, see delidded (and killed) 4960X with solder tim

    Well we agree on something, it is not haswell. As the title of thread clearly states it is a picture of IVY E, not Haswell E. But I have read enough of Toppc posts (does a lot of benching) over years to know it is likely a legit picture. Usually dont judge others by 1 or 2 posts, though...
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    IVY E uses solder tim as expected, see delidded (and killed) 4960X with solder tim

    You must be an AMD'er since you dont seem familiar with intel cpus. As IDC pointed out, IVY (mobile/performance desktop) and IVY E (xeon server chip based/enthusiast cpu) are not same die. Here is chart in andantech link below, look at die size difference between Sandy and Sandy E...
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    IVY E uses solder tim as expected, see delidded (and killed) 4960X with solder tim

    Toppc is reliable, he posted accurate performance of 4770k and 3770k eng samples prior to NDA. His results are usually on many sites...here is his comparison of engineering sample Ivy E vs Sandy E at tech power up...
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    IVY E uses solder tim as expected, see delidded (and killed) 4960X with solder tim

    IVY E uses solder tim as expected, see delidded (and killed) 4960X with solder tim Link below, Toppc (same guy that typically posts engineering sample specs long before NDA are up, ie like he did with 4770K, etc), delidded his Ivy E eng sample 4960x, killing cpu in process as he had to pry...
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    Haswell-E, 8 cores, DDR4

    Ivy E likely coming with $300 4 core, and $500 6 core, and $1000 6 core with slightly higher stock MHz/more cache. So hopefully Haswell E will be coming similarly, $300 6 core, then $500 and $1000 version of 8 core. Im waiting now for Haswell E as well, and will get $500 version 8 core if...
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    Haswell-E, 8 cores, DDR4

    Im not a fanboy of any manufacturer, so I dont get emotionally involved. I have linked multiple white papers for intel solder in realtemp thread on xtreme, feel free to read them, and no they dont mention ivy or haswell regarding solder costs, but I didnt say they mentioned them regarding...
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    Haswell-E, 8 cores, DDR4

    Similar mechanical stress, fatigue, thermal cycling occur at both die attach (pcb to die) and die interface (die to ihs). Look up intel docs on ivy, haswell, and you will see they have same solder joints for die attach (die to pcb) as other cpus. So both ivy and haswell use solder in attaching...
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    Haswell-E, 8 cores, DDR4

    Yep, finally something worth upgrading to....just wish it was coming sooner.
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    [PCPro] Haswell vs. Haswell ES Overclocking

    All depends on how you view your hardware. Many overclockers/benchers (ie the less than 1%), like myself, buy hardware ~ yearly as a new toy to bench, no different than buying a new video game. But buying/benching new hardware is only fun if at least ~10% ipc improvement + same or better...
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    [PCPro] Haswell vs. Haswell ES Overclocking

    yep, that is the average I get. haswell, looking at many benchmarks mostly varies between 5 and 10% improvement over ivy, and averaging ~ 7.5% faster, which is about 300mhz or 4.5 haswell ~ 4.8 ivy. or you can cherry pick a single benchmark and get smaller difference or higher difference.
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    Intel Enthusiast CPU Predictions

    thanks for heads up, yeah there is one of those on every forum....hadnt been on this one in a while...just looking at some of haswell shots...
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    Intel Enthusiast CPU Predictions

    the only cringe-worthy theory I have heard is that ivb is small and fragile and cant handle solder. there are solder die attaches for much smaller dies than ivy/haswell. And not a thermal difference between 150 microns of 5 w/mk paste and intel indium solder at 87 w/mk......um ok. Funny...
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    Intel Enthusiast CPU Predictions

    TDP is 130W on IVY E, so you can pretty much bank on solder being used. No idea about Ocing though. Intel using paste on low TDP cpus like haswell and ivy is the historic norm, intel chasing power efficiency for mobiles just allowed specs of haswell/ivy to qualify for cheaper paste tim...
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    Bare-die testing: A delidded 3770k, an H100, and 9 different TIMs

    Testing Tim1 interface (between die and IHS/heatsink) is not same as testing Tim2 (between IHS and heatsink), as a larger temp gradient will occur across the more critical tim1 interface. Higher variance between different tims at tim1 interface is expected.
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    Inventor of cube supercomputer - 1000x more powerful, seeking $300M investment

    He states he has schizophrenia...hence the nonsensical grandiose ramblings...
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    Delidded my i7-3770K, loaded temperatures drop by 20°C at 4.7GHz

    @CC, prime 18 hrs screenshot, worker 1 and worker 2 failed at 14hrs. When running prime make sure under advanced and check... round off/error checking. But nice cpu/overclock with low vcore! just need to bump up vcore 1 notch to run prime 18hrs and probably 2 notches to run it without whea...
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    Delidded my i7-3770K, loaded temperatures drop by 20°C at 4.7GHz

    In time it took to post that, he could of posted a screenshot of a linx run so we could all learn something, ie if his delidded chip helps him to actually get it stable there or not. I was referring to 3770k, but you found 1, and like on xtreme where I said it was likely some cherry cpus...
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    Delidded my i7-3770K, loaded temperatures drop by 20°C at 4.7GHz

    I have seen at least 50 3770k on 8 different forums that could bench 5 to 5.4 ghz, but yet to see one prime/linx stable at 5ghz, and yet to even hear someone make that claim, using normal ambients/water cooling. Also if your cpu hits a wall at 5.1, the chance of it being prime stable at that...
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    Delidded my i7-3770K, loaded temperatures drop by 20°C at 4.7GHz

    awesome info IDC, really appreciate all the testing!
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    Delidded my i7-3770K, loaded temperatures drop by 20°C at 4.7GHz

    It is not surprising that people get different temp improvements when delidding, if a lot of the effect is the gap, that gap is going to vary hence effect should vary. Not only from manufacturing variance in IHS, but the IHS is attached with an adhesive, and that adhesive definitely going to...
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    Intel Increases Overclocking Potential in Haswell Processors

    From intels point of view, seem norms for them not to use solder on IVY, given stock settings specs. Most intels cpus on low TDP curve use PTIM (polymer/paste tim). Only the high TDP cpus need or use the more expensive, laborious STIM (solder tim). That info is readily available from reading...
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    Delidded my i7-3770K, loaded temperatures drop by 20°C at 4.7GHz

    Intel has quoted their tim1 as 3-4 w/mk as late as 2008 (below in white paper quote), and unlikely to have changed much given transition to solder for higher tdp cpus. Similar specs have been measured with typical user paste tim. The silicon copper laden die conducts heat at 125w/mk, copper...
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    Delidded my i7-3770K, loaded temperatures drop by 20°C at 4.7GHz

    Actually it makes sense that gap plays a major role. Solder has high bulk thermal conductivity (87 w/mk intels indium solder real world measured) and very low contact resistance vs paste. The best paste tested (via dow corning, NREL, other professionals) when applied is never higher than...
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    Delidded my i7-3770K, loaded temperatures drop by 20°C at 4.7GHz

    yep, my thoughts exactly. And I am just making sure everyone else that sees the headlines of their article but doesnt read it, knows they set up the test to get the result they wanted, and not to test for knowledge as your are doing.
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    Delidded my i7-3770K, loaded temperatures drop by 20°C at 4.7GHz

    I would have been happy had they just tested at stock settings, and then 1 legitimate overclocked speed of 4.7 or 4.8 with vcore necessary for prime stable...not artificially low vcore for given mhz that they would never actually use for stable, that would only serve to show same few C gain as...
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    Delidded my i7-3770K, loaded temperatures drop by 20°C at 4.7GHz

    What a waste of 3 cpus on a sloppy experiment. They only tested at stock v core and near stock vcore. They did stock and then added only 0.045 vcore. So stock is ~1.1v at max and their overclock was 1.15 vcore at max (probably lower). The fact they got the same ~2C difference should...
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    Delidded my i7-3770K, loaded temperatures drop by 20°C at 4.7GHz

    Apparently Shin-Etsu X23-7783D has been used as TIM1 in some cpus, and was used as a control in one white paper, so thick pastes may work better. Though i would still try to have as little space as possible between IHS and die. paper from enerdyne who make tim1 solutions...
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