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    Review RX 6600XT Reviews Thread

    The reality is DGPU input costs have ballooned & they suffer from evolutionary giganticism ($1k+ 450w 16GB hair dryers - it cant go on). Its not just crypto. IMO - this iteration is just an extension of lisa's sound, zen like philosophy to compete via lower manufacturing & other costs, yet...
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    Question Is PrimoCache worth it?

    Most cant let go of the "" space is precious more" - so they dangerously split files between the 2 drives. the point is speed tho - so opt to simply mirror popular files on the fast drive - there is no added risk. if the fast drive failes, the original files on the big slow drive remain intact.
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    Kaveri and 4K support

    https://www.aorus.com/motherboards/GA-F2A88X-UP4-rev-30/Specification hdmi 4096x2160 DP 4096x2160
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    Question Is PrimoCache worth it?

    am not a gamer, but i cant see there being much writing to a steam drive except initially? u can also nominate the same ssd as cache or another ssd as a delayed write buffer w/ primocache.
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    Question Is PrimoCache worth it?

    ... or be a bit braver, & ssd primocache a raid 0 hdd array, for a large partition from smaller HDDs, & near SATA SSD speeds
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    Ryzen: Strictly technical

    "As indicated by the Fmax-Vmin curve, the general behavior is almost identical to Summit and Raven Ridge. The scaling and power efficiency is excellent until 3.5GHz and reasonable scaling takes place until 4.0GHz. Beyond this point the voltage scaling is anything but linear, and the CPU is...
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    Budget gaming build - Intel G4560 or AMD 2200G / 2400G?

    Noteworthy IMO are: The apuS are far more modern than dgpu options remotely at this price point. APUs have the very latest AMD; zen, vega, Fabric and architecture. It will grow. The alternatives are static. Swapping ain't what it used to be. We now have much smarter pre-emptive memory...
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    Budget gaming build - Intel G4560 or AMD 2200G / 2400G?

    Savvy users who go dgpu in the end after agonising, can see the apuS merits. The most consistently frugal next step up for them would be a ~1600x & an rx 560 dgpu ($160 newegg). In the absence of any cheap vega dgpuS, the rx560 is the cheapest dgpu using Vega's immediate predecessor's...
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    Budget gaming build - Intel G4560 or AMD 2200G / 2400G?

    Then consider my earlier suggestion. Budget~$150 for a clearance bargain 4 or 6 core ryzen in the next month's lead up to ryzen+. With the apu your dgpu loses 8 lanes.
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    Budget gaming build - Intel G4560 or AMD 2200G / 2400G?

    Just sayin, it seems silly to be decided on a discrete cpu at the outset, and wasting the gpu and 8 lanes by going for an apu anyway. Warts and all, I would hunt up a; cheap, now redundant 4 core ~1500x ryzen to go with my am4 & dgpu, and keep my 8 lanes. There should be some real bargains...
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    AMD Ryzen 5 2400G and Ryzen 3 2200G APUs performance unveiled

    Re high end cooler, Liquid C00ling is very cost effective, as they are cooling both processors. AMD conservatively claim a 40% OC on the Vega IGP w/ 3200 ram on air, so I hate to think what's possible. As I recall, we can also expect better clocks from the 400 series mobos. I expect all these...
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    AMD launches Ryzen Mobile 7 2700U & 5 2500U with Vega Graphics

    We have seen ryzen evolve from a bit of an ugly duckling in about 6 months. This will be far more the case in the mobile apu environment. Even if it only equals intel performance now, RR is a better buy.
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    AMD launches Ryzen Mobile 7 2700U & 5 2500U with Vega Graphics

    But we dont know any volumes from the secretive mega server world. It now represents a big chunk of global processor sales, and would be the low hanging fruit for amd, despite protestations of favouring consumers re vega e.g. if its as popular as it seems, even the pilot installations would...
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    AMD launches Ryzen Mobile 7 2700U & 5 2500U with Vega Graphics

    re:"Hbcc..... Raja says its the most interesting feature but say its 5 years out." very interesting. I hadnt seen that. I sure find HBCC interesting, especially combined with nvme raid. as i feared tho, its so revolutionary and rich, it will take years to realise anything like its full...
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    AMD launches Ryzen Mobile 7 2700U & 5 2500U with Vega Graphics

    Just saying, but folks upgrading from a hdd laptop should experience far less power draw from an ssd only rig.
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    AMD Raven Ridge 'Zen APU' Thread

    I have read many posts here, but no mention of whats truly novel about rr apu? Dunno, but guestimates would be gpu >< cpu interlinks are normally ~14GB/s over the usual pcie 16 lanes after overheads. Afaik, infinity uses 40GB/s processor links, and may use multiple links. (in theory, the same...
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    AMD Raven Ridge 'Zen APU' Thread

    I think the reason amd went out on a limb a bit w/ hbm2 was its compactness fitted its plans so well w/ ~on die cache for apu gpuS. the ram market has been unkind, esp. hbm2, so amd has had to back off a bit for now, to meet price points
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    AMD Raven Ridge 'Zen APU' Thread

    "if this is correct than we can expect pretty nice boost in performance. 40% bigger GPU, but with 30% lower core clock, is still able to be 40% faster on average? That is pretty nice boost. Im wondering, what they will be able to achieve with higher TDPs, and faster RAM." Then there is/are...
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    AMD Raven Ridge 'Zen APU' Thread

    "RavenRidge looks to be exactly what an AMD APU was supposed to be in the first place, cheap yet powerful CPU+iGPU and now at low wattage as well. With 40% (iGPU) higher perf than BristolRidge at 50% less power, it could easily become the best APU in 2017 for Laptops." Yep. Random points...
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    AMD EPYC Server Processor Thread - EPYC 7000 series specs and performance leaked

    ... in a manicured hand.
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    AMD EPYC Server Processor Thread - EPYC 7000 series specs and performance leaked

    Just saying, 14nm to 7nm nodes, is an impressive 50%, but in absolute terms, a mere 7nm. Previous node changes have been far greater absolutely. Diminishing returns are inevitable. Dont get too excited about 7nm. 14 nm is pretty good.
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    AMD EPYC Server Processor Thread - EPYC 7000 series specs and performance leaked

    5%=~1B$? means the market is $20B ,which sounds low. Whatever. NB , amd are in a position to make some serious margins on that extra revenue. Intel would kill for amdS costs and flexibility.
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    AMD EPYC Server Processor Thread - EPYC 7000 series specs and performance leaked

    I hadnt thought of 4 sockets, but yeah, a 1 socket epyc = a 2 socket intel, so a 2 socket amd may well challenge a 4 socket.
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    Raven Ridge news/release date

    The point of a CCX is a bus for multiple building block core units. the zen cpu cores are 4 core & 8 t. a ryzen ccx is two of them, each with 4MB cache. so half a ccx is 4c 8t, just as raven ridge is - the ccx is a cpu unit and a gpu unit on the same ccx bus.
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    Raven Ridge news/release date

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    Real AMD Bristol Ridge on sale?

    I hear a lot of people think the zen/vega apu would do them nicely. but not til ~xmas it seems so: to move now with new gen stuff (am4/ddr4/freesync/pcie3 m.2 slot/...) mostly, u have to go the dear and over powered ryzen am4 discrete gpu route & miss out on vega or wait ~a month+ for it...
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    AMD Raven Ridge 'Zen APU' Thread

    Agree. Extrapolating from inargualble biz logic empathetically, reveals much IMO. Go back a bit further to the a10 APU architecture (v1 raven ridge IMO) and their aimed direction is even clearer. Why would they, at the culmination of their long road to a seismic APU nirvana, which will be a no...
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    Ideal CPU combination for GTX 1080Ti SLI or VEGA X-fire

    Yes, of course wait as long as u can given the situation, but vega will drop real soon & u will have a fair idea of what vega/zen can do. my guess is the combo is far greater than the sum of the parts. They were made from the ground up for each other. There are bound to be powerful synergies...
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    Ideal CPU combination for GTX 1080Ti SLI or VEGA X-fire

    A highish min frame rate doesnt necessarily say there are no lags, but yeah, its an indicator.
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    Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

    a fine strategy, but just sayin, a big new AMD focus is monitoring temp w/ hundreds? of sensors etched into the silicon, and fine tuning turbo accordingly within heat envelopes. it may be that water cooling pays big dividends?
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    Help me overclock my memory on A10-7850k on Asus A88x-pro

    for translate ??? cant find english version
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    Help me overclock my memory on A10-7850k on Asus A88x-pro

    good pragmatic post I intuitively agree - its mostly, for most, about the igp part of the apu as a newbie, it seems one should focus on settings that are relevant to the gpu performance
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    More Llano leaks (A8 APU extensively benchmarked)

    Totally agree, a super duper frugal dual core llano, may have been a better call, but a brave one. I look at these graphs, & there is usually an expensive, thirsty, gorilla or two, but mostly down in the sweet spot, there is little in it against amd re CPUs. When u get to graphics, there...
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    More Llano leaks (A8 APU extensively benchmarked)

    I saw some CF results somewhere & they were terrible. Pity but not surprising. Early drivers etc. & may be using crap ram may have been the same review that showed intels display quality problems.
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    More Llano leaks (A8 APU extensively benchmarked)

    I think AMD would prefer a 25watt dual core too (& one is planned), but the 4 core was easier to bring to market. Switching nodes is tricky enough. Brazos was all new also, but on a familiar node. A 28nm shrink for brazos would be a killer product.
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    Llano vs. Nvidia Graphics

    Hmm Some pretty flaky logic here, but some good ideas We, on these sites, flatter ourselves we r the center of the pc universe - not so as others have said, its the sub (way sub) $1000 class, and low power sure helps. Me, I think brazos may be the killer. now 40nm (same as discrete gpuS), 2...
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    AMD Llano will get me a $700 gaming laptop?

    Few things. Llano is an interesting watershed for AMD in the mainstream. They may have turned the tables on intel by making the igp the issue, not nm & x86 prowess. Intel have to work their asses off to compete in IGP, AMD just cut and paste a better gpu onto their fusion die and leapfrog...
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    What is AMD fusion?

    I would suggest you do your own reading. No one here (bar one) knows what they are talking about.
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