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XBitlabs: Advanced Micro Devices Set to Unveil New Strategy Next Week

Not much longer until "Project WINNING!" is revealed... Rumor has it that Charlie Sheen will be hired for all future APU design work.
- tatertot
- Post #98
- Nov 7, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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I give up being a CPU enthusiast.

Uh wasn't your first thread enough? http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2201984 Seems like the mods may need to step in.
- tatertot
- Post #9
- Oct 30, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD reports Q3 earnings

What's going to hit the fan is 2012, when GloFo stops eating the losses for the horrendous yields on 32nm products, and AMD gets them instead. Note to CEO Rory: Stop with the buzzword bingo and never, ever use the word "execution" more than once in a sentence. It was so bad I had to stop...
- tatertot
- Post #12
- Oct 27, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Sandy Bridge-E and x79 Release Date?

Yeah, I'm sure Intel spent billions developing Haswell without any thought to absolute performance. :rolleyes:
- tatertot
- Post #16
- Oct 24, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Intel CC: Ivy Bridge began volume 22nm production in Q3

Only to the extent that any foundry can keep up with Intel on the process front.
- tatertot
- Post #12
- Oct 19, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Intel CC: Ivy Bridge began volume 22nm production in Q3

Remember that Intel first shipped 32nm parts in Q4 2009, and launched Westmere in Q1 2010. So 32nm will be around for the standard ~2 years before 22nm takes over.
- tatertot
- Post #9
- Oct 19, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Intel CC: Ivy Bridge began volume 22nm production in Q3

I didn't say that. :rolleyes: I'm impressed with Intel confirming volume production of 22nm in Q3 2011 -- (and note, expected to qualify for sales in late Q4) -- given the state of the rest of the manufacturing industry: - GloFo floundering about with bad 32nm yields and leakage, planning on...
- tatertot
- Post #4
- Oct 19, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Intel CC: Ivy Bridge began volume 22nm production in Q3

Also, Romley SB-EP has been shipping since Q3. From Intel's earnings CC last night: http://seekingalpha.com/article/300442-intel-s-ceo-discusses-q3-2011-results-earnings-call-transcript?source=yahoo "During the third quarter, the Data Center business also set an all-time record for storage...
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- Oct 19, 2011
- Replies: 40
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Was Sandy Bridge a let down?

Consider also the context of a few days after BD gets released, and termed a "let down" by virtually everyone... I mean, if SB was a "let down".... BD was... I'm not sure there are words... ;)
- tatertot
- Post #60
- Oct 18, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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What happened with "Anaphase?"

Mmmmm... I wouldn't put it quite that way. The difference from SB --> IB is, per Anand: I wonder if there are more choices besides 100% to a single thread and 50%-50% between 2 threads... based on actual thread demand? Say one thread really only wants 25% of some internal structure... can...
- tatertot
- Post #16
- Oct 18, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Was Sandy Bridge a let down?

No. SB dynamically allocates power, so it can use the whole 95W for the CPU portion if the iGPU is not engaged. Intel's marketing slide decks even had graphics illustrating this around SB launch. -- Also, AMD ACP != AMD TDP. AMD tries to stick mainly to their silly ACP marketing invention...
- tatertot
- Post #51
- Oct 18, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Here comes the spin machine! (Our Take on AMD FX)

I think Paul makes a fair point here: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=68029856 ... The engineers who worked on BD were pretty straight forward in their ISSCC and Hotchips papers that they were emphasizing frequency and throughput over IPC. Comments...
- tatertot
- Post #150
- Oct 15, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Ivy Bridge 3700K @ 77W TDP

65W with no clock increase would be: 1.05 / (65/95) = 53% perf/W improvement! Those are some high expectations. o_O
- tatertot
- Post #39
- Oct 15, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Ivy Bridge 3700K @ 77W TDP

The 3820 has 4 memory channels and more L3. That's why it's better. But feel free to infer that all 22nm LGA1155 3700 series clock speeds must be lower than a 32nm LGA2011 3800 series part clock speed if that floats your boat. :rolleyes: Clocks are not expected to rise much from SB1155 to...
- tatertot
- Post #21
- Oct 15, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Bulldozer as server and HPC

Assuming BD was great in the server space, one would think that AMD might have had some basic server benchmarks to release along with/before the Zambezi disaster, in order to cushion the blow. Has anyone seen any spec_rate benches for Valencia or Interlagos yet? Anything from TPC?
- tatertot
- Post #3
- Oct 15, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Ivy Bridge 3700K @ 77W TDP

I haven't seen an Intel document specifying a model number decoder....
- tatertot
- Post #13
- Oct 15, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Ivy Bridge 3700K @ 77W TDP

That's not sound reasoning. Of course it can. Different process, platform, etc. And why stop with the 3820? Why not argue it can't be higher than the 3930? Which would imply lower than 2600K speeds...
- tatertot
- Post #11
- Oct 15, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Ivy Bridge 3700K @ 77W TDP

It does? :confused: OTOH, there's always a full node shrink, a decrease in IPC, and an increase in power... *cough* BD *cough*
- tatertot
- Post #8
- Oct 15, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Ivy Bridge 3700K @ 77W TDP

4-core Sandy-E = LGA-2011, high-TDP, 4-channel mem, 10MB L3 cache, no IGP. 4-core Ivy = LGA-1155, low-TDP, 2-channel mem, 8MB L3 cache, IGP. Never understood complaints about model numbering schemes. It's like complaining about someone's phone number. It's just an identifier.
- tatertot
- Post #5
- Oct 15, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Ivy Bridge 3700K @ 77W TDP

It appears Intel's 22nm process is coming along nicely... Top bin Ivy desktop 4C/8T only uses 77W, down from 95W Sandy. A bit different than GlobalFlounderings. ;) http://pctuning.tyden.cz/component/content/article/1-aktualni-zpravy/22258-procesory-ivy-bridge-core-i7-3700k-pouze-77w...
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- Thread
- Oct 15, 2011
- Replies: 62
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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[OFFICIAL] Bulldozer Reviews Thread - AnandTech Review Posted

FX-8150 Folding @ Home performance: http://www.overclock.net/overclock-net-folding-home-team/1139876-looking-bulldozer-f-h-performance-4.html#post15285147 Hint: it sucks like everything else.
- tatertot
- Post #534
- Oct 13, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Fudzilla: Bulldozer performance figures are in

That's some old super-overclocked result. Reality tidbit is that BD will lose to the 2600K in virtually all multi-threaded tests (except for (yay!) winRAR), will tie/lose-to the 2500 in gaming, and will lose to the 2500K (maybe even the i3?) on single-threaded tests, and has lower IPC than...
- tatertot
- Post #2,232
- Oct 11, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Sandy Bridge die-size estimate from photo

No, the package is 37.5 square.
- tatertot
- Post #22
- Sep 19, 2010
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Sandy Bridge die-size estimate from photo

Sandy Bridge 4-core is ~225 mm^2 This can be seen most easily from a large photo of the die on the known 37.5 mm square packaging. http://media.bestofmicro.com/X/E/261698/original/SandyBridge_Desktop_Chip2.jpg This is also what the leaked CanardPC info claimed. The 8-core LGA 2011...
- tatertot
- Post #13
- Sep 15, 2010
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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S/A: "AMD outs bulldozer based orochi die"

I've read through what you wrote there, and what I don't see is any assertion that Charlie is actually wrong in his claim of a Q4 2011 Bulldozer launch for servers. Saying rumors are rumors is the same sort of thing... rumors are sometimes correct. "On track", "the schedule hasn't changed"...
- tatertot
- Post #56
- Sep 7, 2010
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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What will be the die size of the Orochi Bulldozer?

~300 mm^2 I think some people are forgetting about all the "uncore" stuff that is needed (big L3 cache, IMC, northbridge, hypertransport links), and that the modules are each likely to come with 2MB of L2. Either that, or they don't realize this is a 4-module/8-core die.
- tatertot
- Post #14
- Sep 7, 2010
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD gaining server marketshare from Intel (Odd...)

This trefis company is one of these dodgy stock-picking investment spam operations. Their hook is an adjustable graph, but they put almost no effort into getting correct information about the companies they spit out this crap about, in this particular case, they are somehow oblivious to the fact...
- tatertot
- Post #2
- Sep 7, 2010
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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S/A: "AMD outs bulldozer based orochi die"

While AMD still says only "2011" publicly, Charlie D @ semiaccurate just said he's learned a lot of BD news from sources over the past 2 weeks, and that "sadly most of it is bad." This, he says is the reason for his estimate of "late, late 2011" for a Bulldozer launch...
- tatertot
- Post #33
- Sep 6, 2010
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD sheds light on Bulldozer, Bobcat, desktop, laptop plans

JF, I think you should talk to the engineers again, I suspect they misunderstood your question slightly. ~5% sounds about right for the overall die area cost for ONE of the 4 BD module's extra integer execution units, not all 4 of them. It's doubtful that Chuck got it wrong regarding...
- tatertot
- Post #277
- Nov 30, 2009
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking

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