Yes this is with a 212 plus.
It doesnt really get very hot (like 62degrees celcius max (prime95)) or loud, and like I said performance seems fine, so Im happy.
I use it for dolphin and it does that really well.
I had a Phenom II x4 965 that I oced before, and the differnce between them in...
I bought a G3258, and I wanna say your not alone.
The highest stable OC I could get mine was 4ghz.
Thats at a around 1.26v. (might be giveing it more than it needs, but if I lower it, Id get crashes, so I think it needs it)
Thats with a MSI H81M-P33 Motherboard. I havnt flashed its bios or...
AMD is makeing the next Nintendo consol, XB1/PS4/WiiU are still selling.
AMD + Mediatek for tablet/smartphones (could be big).
AMD scored a contract for facebook semi-custom server chips (could be big).
I think there was something about the chinese wanting some semi custom chips too?
Then...
A guy cant even make a thread asking for advice without green team vs red team.
(notice how fast someone was to just say get a 980 :P)
Id listen to Snafuh, seems to be in the know about the topic at hand.
Id also like to point out that the OP made no mention of 5k.
He made one about wanting...
My laptop has a i7-4700mq in it.
Dynamic CPU voltage offset is at -116 mV.
Processor voltage offset is also at -116 mV. (ratio slightly lowered).
So my CPU at:
idle @ 0.56v (800mhz)
load @ 0.93v (3.1ghz) (4cores stresstest in XTU)
For fun:
"Haswell-DT" (22 nm) Die size = 177mm^2 (1.4B transistors)
the igpu part is like ~33% of the chip.
remove that (the intel igp) and you get ~119mm^2 for the cpu part only.
Nvidia 750ti (28 nm) is 148mm^2.
Now imagine what happends to that 750ti,
once you shrink it to intels 22nm...
1) Motherboards wont shoot up in price to much, other than cost of the added HCM ram.
2) "..pin count will rocket up." Why? What makes HCM any differnt than the current DDR3 ram we use? why would pin count explode if the ram is on the motherboard?
3) "air cooling is out of the question". Why...
Only if you dont believe in the "good enough" for x task, stuff people claim.
Like how cpus are fast enough for any daily task for the mainstream user, so building big 200watt cpus isnt needed, thus intel went perf/watt instead.
at some point, unless eye-candy in games accelerates at a unheard...
If you enjoy emulation then the haswell cpu upgrade is well worth it.
Basically for emulation, cpu-performance wise (dolphin/pcsx2/mame ect)
3.4ghz haswell = 4.4 ghz Ivy bridge = 4.6 ghz sandy bridge.
3.5ghz haswell = 4.6 ghz Ivy bridge = 4.8 ghz sandy bridge.
I think its funny a small...
For alot of these cards its around 105c.
However I dont recammend you keep it running at above 90c.
Being around 80 degree celcius is fine.
If its overclocked you can try and lower your overclock abit.
If its not overclocked, or only just a tiny bit, you can try undervolting it.
(best not to...
Why not do both at once?
Go with a cheaper CPU instead of a ~200$+ one, and put in a new GPU for the saved cash from getting a cheaper CPU.
Something like:
Intel Core i3-4130 Haswell (dual core, hyperthreading, 3.4ghz, 54w) ~110$
+
Nvidia Geforce 750 ~120$ (less power usage)
or
AMD 260x...
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+
^ released year 2005 (about 10years old cpu), uses max 66watts.
i5-3450
^ released year 2012 (about 2years old cpu), uses max 77watts.
The i5-3450 should get just as "hot" as the Athlon 64 X2 4200+, if its maxed out on a work load.
Make sure your pc kabinet is...
They arnt "just" numbers amd pulled out is on arse.
Their are plenty of reviewers that where allowed a few hours with a prototype to test them.
Hell here on Anandtech you can find one of a "A10 Micro-6700T" 4.5w (2.8w SPD) apu tested...
I doubt it.
The Temash -> Mullins step was huge.
Same with Beema vs. Kabini.
"The power reduction is pretty impressive when you put it in terms of TDPs. The highest-end Mullins part has a TDP of 4.5W, which is significantly less than the 8W TDP of Temash, but manages twice the graphics and...
wccftech basically just ripped off 3dcenter.org article, took abit from it and stole the picture and posted it in such a tiny format you cannot even read it properly.
They dont even mention their source is the 3dcenter.org article...
More like 8.2mil+ Ps4 & 4.7mil+ Xb1 sales (total of ~12,9mil) according to vgchartz.
Their still selling like 100k PS4's each week, and 65k Xbox1's each week.
Over a month thats like 560k+ units each month, from the Xb1 & PS4.
Again if you go by VGchartz.
^ this is sadly true.
AMD need to...
Am I the only one that thinks the improvements are reaaaaally small?
And in the titles where the improvements are big, its usally a older game that runs pretty well before hand as well.
^ basically what I take away from this guys posting too.
I dont think id bother spending ~350$ for 6% avg...
Ahh...
Then yes you should pull the trigger and get a 760.
The game in its current state seems to favor nvidia due to driver optimisations, so right now its def. the better way to go.
Which is all that matters if you want to play the game now.
Im just saying he might not even need a upg if its a driver issue that ll be fixed once the game is released and AMD can optimise drivers for it.
I didnt once try to sell him a card.
Im saying this is a nvidia game, and nvidia likely have their drivers optimised for it already while amd dont...
That was more than 1 year ago,
on a 7850 stock card vs a factory oced 660.
and the game is still about 4-5 months away from release.
I bet the newer cards will get the most attention for driver optimsations ect.
They ll probably be the most stable of the bunch.
Could be a mistake not to...
You "could" wait until its actually released in november/december.
Then give it a month time to see if the game being out and driver optimisations dont fix the fact that this is a nvidia title and their drivers are optimised already for it, and AMDs drivers arnt.
I think you ll see performance...
The question is will the "mainstream" consumer care about 4k (for PC gameing)?
(not just for watching 4k video)
I think for along time most will be fine with 1920x, and eventually these iGPUs will be able to run that fine in all games, even with High-Ultra settings.
Its going to hurt discrete...
Yep tablets + Laptops will be the first to lose discrete cards.
Its where powerfull iGPUs (compaired to mobile discretes) makes the most sense.
5 years from now there could be no more mobile discrete GPUs for laptops/tablets.
^ I agree.
I bet stock holders are paying close attention to the first iteration of "HBM / HMC" memory does to iGPUs & Discrete cards sales.
I can see iGPU eventually killing off Discretes via makeing them unprofitable (due to R&D + profits from a shunk market).
The problem for iGPUs has...
A titan is a monster card, just like a 290x.
What resolution do you game at to need more than a Titan?
If your worried about 4k gameing or something like that then....
You might be best off getting 2 x 290 or 290x.
At 4k resolutions a 290x is generally faster than a GTX Titan...
Booooom! hit the nail right on the head.
What does it matter if the 460 has more TMU's than the 750? if it cant do anything better than a 750 that has less TMU's.
I think what you mean is why didnt nvidia make a 750 with more TMUs?
Theres probably a engineering reason behinde it, and if you...
I agree with this.
It just sounds like Communism & BrightCandle are doing the typical nv-fanboy type thing and slanting AMD.
Infraction issued for member callout and serious personal attack.
-- stahlhart
If you look at cinebench scores it shows how bad off AMD is.
I7-4790 (compaired to 8350):
Single threaded performance is ~69% higher than the 8350 from AMD.
Multi threaded performance is ~27% higher than the 8350 from AMD.
In games the single threaded performance will show, even today games...
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/697?vs=100
3D Particle Movement, is the only bench there thats tests faster on the i7-950 and thats more than likely dude to it being a horrible written program.
everything else the AMD FX-8350 is faster than the i7-950.
When it comes to gameing Id bet...
Smaller width busses and faster memory always seems like a winning combo when it comes to perf/power & perf/price.
And if most of that power saved comes from just better power phase moduals on the cards... wow.
Why hadnt they done it before?
Looking forwards to seeing this new card thats...
What always happends when there is no competition....
Prices go up as far as they can.
That means little in the low end market, where ARM gives intel a bit of competition.
In the high end, desktop and laptop's the CPU prices would explode.
Eventually Intel would kill off the PCIe port on...
I only experiance with running a monitor at a higher Hz than it was rated at resulted in it dieing on me in less than 3 months.
So enjoy your overclock of your monitor and good luck :)
Power saveing features.
Well I guess they need it if they plan on makeing a 280x replacement, thats more power effecient.
I want to see what both companies can do with a 128bit bus card, with HBM.
For that matter, a APU with HBM..... its what AMD has needed for along time for APUs to be able...
For Sony the PS4 is one of the only things thats really makeing them any money.
Why would sony want to get rid of a healthy bussiness?
Its all the other stuff sony does thats dragging the company down.
I dont think MS is loseing money on their Xbox either.
I honestly wouldnt buy one over a...
If you have the right lighting I prefer clear.
If your sitting somewhere, where theres tons of lightsources bouncing off your screen, matte all the way.
Gonna vote clear/glossy.
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