Well. Let's put it this way.
People who need Windows Tablet will buy Cherry Trail.
People who need Android Tablet will buy Cherry Trail.
People who need Windows/Android Tablet will buy Cherry Trail.
So... WHO CARES!
K1 could be 3x more efficient than AMDs chip, but ... it's irrelevant.
AMD already tried this.
http://www.amd.com/us/press-releases/Pages/amd-announces-new-levels-of-realism-2009sept30.aspx
Speaking about HSA, people tends to forget that GPU is not CPU (even if these have common memory space). There are reasons why one, not really modern cpu core is much more...
Didn't expect BT to be competitive in graphics department against best available mobile solution on raw performance, but it seems it is.
http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/mobile
also, just as aside note...
No idea how reliable their test is, but I think the delta seems OK because high load may stress not only CPU/GPU, but pretty much every other device subsystem.
7.9W delta - sure it worse than 5.1W delta out of Galaxy Note 3, but... I have no idea what notebookchech uses to stress android...
Nice job finding lowest possible 2500k score in this "very reliable" benchmark.
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/223722?baseline=197965
Official Intel Roadmap
http://www.techspot.com/news/54777-intel-atom-soc-roadmap-updated-new-chips-and-64-bit-android-tablets-on-the-horizon.html
Cherry-Trail in second half of 2014, 64-bit versions of Windows & Android for Bay-Trail in beginning of 2014.
Only in Ice Storm which is developed especially for mobile devices and not really shader heavy. This benchmark is mostly BW limited. Check out two other graphics benchmarks in your link (cloud gate and 3dmark11) - those have around 4x performance difference which pretty much reflects 5x...
There are additional pieces of information about Cherry Trail
http://vr-zone.com/articles/first-look-new-features-cherry-trails-gpu/64068.html
While the info is mostly promising (especially 16 EU part), some info looks strange. For example one slide stays that Bay Trail does not support Open GL...
Ivy bridge still has the issue (although it was improved - it's able something like 23.96). Haswell finally got the right frame-rate.
http://missingremote.com/review/intel-nuc-kit-d54250wyk
He discussed it but proved nothing. To prove fairness of benchmark he just need to open the code... 90% of his "benchmark" are available in open source variants and have much better performance. Comparing geekbench benchmarks to SPEC benchmark is even not funny. SPEC benchmarks are testing very...
And Geekbench depends on compiler and optimizations. Moreover it has closed source code, so you can't be sure that versions for different platform are actually running the same algorithms/code (you don't get any meaningful results from the benchmark indicating that the calculations are correct)...
HSA is a good intention... But execution is another story. Lets hope it wont go nowhere like another AMD initiative.
http://www.amd.com/us/press-releases/Pages/amd-announces-new-levels-of-realism-2009sept30.aspx
You're making mistake comparing FLOPS from some specific application to theoretical FLOPS coming from AMD calculations. First of all the FLOPS in Intel Burn Test are DP (Double Precision) FLOPS (64-bit FP operations). Second - Intel Burn Test currently does not support FMA operations...
Well, most probably kavery is faster than gt 630 but my point was that it is not possible to make any conclusions based on one benchmark done inside AMD controlled environment.
BTW, pretty much everyone tested mobile version of iris pro.
I mean, check devices which support only OpenGL ES 2.0 - you will see ETC1 listed in GL Extensions. For example:
http://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx27&D=Samsung+SGH-M919+Galaxy+S4&testgroup=gl
You should see standard OGL features listed with preffix "GL_OES" and extensions listed with...
No, the software can detect all supported extensions no matter what OpenGL version is currently in use. For example ETC1 is mandatory for all OpenGL ES 2.0 devices and you would see it listed for all related devices.
I'm not sure if it's a great thing. The actual game must be able to detect...
Baytrail support has been integrated into Mesa long time ago.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM1MzU
Missing Android baytrail tablets rather has something to do with the readiness of Android x86 4.3 version.
In fact, if you compare list of supported GL extensions...
OpenGL ES 3.0 is mostly subset of OpenGL 3.3 (altrough not a full subset). Mesa for intel supports ES 3.0 starting from ver. 9.1. Android supports ES 3.0 starting from ver. 4.3.
I'm not sure it's matter of driver readiness. In fact gfxbench has android benchmark done on for Asus T100:
http://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx27&D=Asus+T100TA+Transformer+Book&testgroup=system
Mesa has OpenGL ES 3.0 support since last February. So if you install Android-x86 4.3 version...
Although BT has not the fastest IGP it seems that it is the only android SoC which has proper OpenGL ES 3.0 support for the time being, considering lack of ES 3.0 in Tegra 4 and terrible ARM/Qualcomm drivers.
Don't know if it was already posted, but German version is getting 500GB HDD in keyboard part.
http://www.asus.com/de/News/y41dOZI8mGfCoWhZ
Already available here...
If so it would have active cooling, half the battery life, more weight and worse performance.
T100 runs circles around Samsung Ativ 9 Light.
http://liliputing.com/2013/10/first-look-asus-transformer-book-t100.html
It is shame Samsung is using TN panels in such expensive notebook
Why does the keyboard part have "Intel inside" sticker?
BTW HP Spectre 13x2 (13.3", fanless haswell transformer) is available for preorder.
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/m/ads/new-products/spectre-x2.html
Max performance numbers in phones are much less important than battery life numbers. Can't wait to see what Merrifield has to deliver. Any way, Intel still has a lot of room to improve Dalvik performance.
Not sure when we will see 8-core Intel's CPU for $400, but I believe next year we will see 8-core replacement for i7-3930K for around $500-$600. Hopefully mainstream segment ($300-400) will get some bust with 6-core goodness...
I guess the goal of this topic is to warn people from making mistakes, when the next time they want to write something like "Intel TDP = Average Power, AMD TDP = Max. Power." Unfortunately, this wrong idea was inspired by some (former) AMD employees...
DX11 makes less sense indeed (as its main features are tessellation and GPGPU compute), but DX10 is major improvement over DX9. It introduces a lot of new features. For example, Adreno still lacks geometry shaders. Basically using DX10 instead of DX9 you can get either better performance with...
Qualcomm graphics still stuck at DX feature level 9.3 and supports OpenGL ES 3.0 only (assuming Adreno 330 is an overclocked Adreno 320), means feature wise Adreno 330 is just a subset of Intel's Gen 7 graphics which fully supports DX 11 and OpenGL 4.0.
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