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  1. Post your Cpumark99 scores

    I'm going all core and letting the clocks jump around... seems there's a good chunk of performance left on the table doing that...
  2. Post your Cpumark99 scores

    Fixed!
  3. Post your Cpumark99 scores

    5.97GHz, but some jumping around of the clock... pretty sure this is the limit of this CPU... since I won't apply extra voltage (in fact, this is -12 curve optimizer and 125MHz PBO boost... and nothing at all else... -15CO fails to boot, but does POST, so we're at the limit)
  4. Post your Cpumark99 scores

    Ryzen 9 7950X bone stock, but using a custom loop. Running through WINE, though it doesn't appear to impact the score at all... Frequency was 5.88Ghz during most of the test - ran it three times, very little variation.
  5. Post your Cpumark99 scores

    I did a test with a 5950X at 5GHz and scored 903... within 1.2% of the same 5.6Mhz/CPUMark99, so close enough to say you seem to be right. Is CPUMark99 x87 heavy?
  6. Post your Cpumark99 scores

    5950X @ 4Ghz: @ Stock: @ best core, locked affinity (4.9~5.0GHz) All run under Linux, 5.5.2, so there's some minor WINE overhead, however that doesn't seem to impact the score at all. Update: 5950X 5Ghz
  7. Post your Cpumark99 scores

    Ryzen 5 3600X, stock, 4.4GHz (maybe...). Xubuntu 19.04, custom systemd, wine64 764 Will try again in Windows... EDIT: 765 EDIT: Running AGESA 1003 ABBA EDIT: Running AGESA 1004B, Ryzen 9 3900X, 4.525GHz (stock!)
  8. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    Not the first time I'd be the first to discover an AMD bug :p Now I just need to find someone who wants to buy Thread Ripper... I have two or more buyers for a good Zen-based APU (those are always easy sales thanks to HTPCs). My retirement is going well... LOL!
  9. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    Literally the first thing I checked after updating to 1006 a couple weeks ago. Still a no go, ntvdm 100%, nothing runs. However, that's better than it was. Before, ntvdm would only randomly launch, then it would just never launch again. Now I can have multiple ntvdm processes running maxing...
  10. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    The behavior is exactly as expected for a bifurcated victim cache (or dual independent victim caches). The Ryzen 5 1400 has 8MB of L3 total, in two 4MB chunks. Allocating 4MB will not entirely end up in the L3 - some will be in the L2, some will be in the L3, and some will not be on-die at...
  11. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    Only two P-states are available to software P-State 1 and P-State 2. P-State 0 is a hardware-mediated turbo that won't be engaged (but will determine the TSC frequency) and 'higher' P-states are for low power modes.
  12. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    This is when kernel thread leveling acts to improve performance by forcing both L3s to have the data. If a CCX is parked, it will never have the data.
  13. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    Cache aware algorithms expecting access to 16MB of L3 cache and allocating pools that are larger than 8MB.
  14. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    Nothing wrong with that when the power draw is as low as with Ryzen. I don't see many boards at all having difficulty handling 1.4V 8-core at 4Ghz.
  15. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    Swapped the Prime X370 Pro with an ASRock Fatalwhatever Gaming K4. Generally better options, though not all fan headers can run in DC mode... only real downside I could find. Did not resolve virtualization issue, so I will assume that we will just have to wait for the software ecosystem to...
  16. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    The Prime X370 is the first X370 or B350 motherboard I've seen without them.
  17. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    $160 for a motherboard and no custom P-states and broken fan control is simply unacceptable when my wife's $100 ASRock board has the same features and perfect fan control.
  18. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    Do you mean I/O APIC? Yes, tried that. Tried every setting I could find (including spoofing an Intel Pentium 4). Thankfully, I have Windows XP running 16-bit properly with a Linux Mint host running as a guest on Windows 10 with the necessary performance, sound, and disk access - with all of...
  19. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    What motherboard do you have? That's exactly the symptom I have with 16-bit apps: they do absolutely nothing (though, form time to time, ntvdm will run one core up 100%).
  20. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    Can you try running some 16-bit Windows software? Linux installed perfectly fine in VMWare Player, now I'm going to try to use it as a host. UPDATE: Okay, this is just plain confusing: Host: Windows 10 Guest: Linux Mint 18.1 Sub-Guest Windows XP 16-bit apps working on XP guest running on...
  21. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    They don't run natively, they are complex medical data management programs which would cost about $400k to replace - they're here to stay. I've also worked in Fortune 500 companies which do the same thing to keep old software running so they don't get hit by new licensing expenses and don't...
  22. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    Yes, tried latest BIOS w/ AGESA 1004a and older BIOS. The same Windows 7 x64 install was able to run the same virtual machine with the same VMWare Player installation prior to the Ryzen upgrade. The same VM works perfectly on a different machine. It's fast, but I couldn't install any Windows...
  23. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    I'm having a very frustrating experience with virtualization and Ryzen. I detail it here: https://community.amd.com/thread/215064 TLDR: Virtualized Windows XP on a Ryzen system I just built can't run 16-bit programs... and, interestingly, neither can virtualized Windows 3.11. I will be...
  24. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    "Relative to Excavator" charts will not contain Excavator results - they would all just be 100% ;-) Relative charts generally exclude that to which they are relative as that would just be the 100% marker.
  25. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    I have no idea how the charts could ever be swapped, they're hard-coded in place inside their cells and have never been placed in the wrong cell. What browser are you using? And, are you sure they are swapped? The results relative to Excavator will contain the Sandy Bridge results, whereas...
  26. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    Thanks, I refreshed the cached versions in case they get used again. I was originally planning to use PHP charts, which are compute-heavy, so I was going to cache the pages full-time in memory. Not sure how the empty cached versions came up at all, though... pretty strange.
  27. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    http://zen.looncraz.net/ now online. I don't have time for the next few weeks, maybe as much as a month, to finish more than what has been done. At that point in time I should also have more Intel results as I will be upgrading an Ivy Bridge Xeon system to Ryzen and will have the parts on...
  28. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    This seems to be a bug with AIDA. I didn't recognize how large the climbing was, despite writing the numbers, LOL! Guess that can happen when running 1,000 different numbers through your head. Geekbench 3 shows 2% scaling on the memory subtests with AGESA 1.0.0.4 using the 8C/16T...
  29. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    I'm not making any assumptions, you are comparing results without taking into consideration the control results - they all show the same pattern of increased bandwidth with core clocks. And it's not just the one test - it's everything, including Geekbench 3 - though I'm not yet back to the...
  30. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    Bandwidth is a function of not just memory speed and the IMC, but of the CPU being able to process the data. I had higher bandwidth with core overclocks on Sandy Bridge, but that was rather minimal by comparison... but Sandy Bridge didn't rely on the same type of data mesh operating in multiple...
  31. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    That would certainly be a better long-term proposition. I'd suggest buying one and testing out how it works before fully investing into a legacy free platform.
  32. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    All PCI-e 2.0 slots come from the PCH. 3.0 slots come from the CPU. PCI will be coming from the PCH. You should note that you can probably manage to run graphics off PCI-e 2.0 x1, but you will need to take care about what card you choose. If you can wait a while, though, a board that can suit...
  33. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    Actually, I've seen this with every scaling test I've done - Ryzen memory performance goes up with CPU clocks. This isn't really unexpected when you consider all of the logic and cache running at core clocks. The DF interface, for example, seems to run at the L3 speed, whereas the DF itself...
  34. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    HPET is enabled, absolutely. I will have to retest, though, as I did not realize it at the time - so thanks for catching that :p I think the memory could have been running at 3200, despite what the screenshot says. Others on the forums have stated seeing similar behavior with the 0083 BIOS. I...
  35. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    I finally have tested the latest AGESA (1.0.0.4) thoroughly... I am very glad I waited for this BIOS before posting my Zen architectural review. SMT penalties are now nearly completely gone. I had previously seen a few areas with penalties as high as 15%... now there are just a few small...
  36. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    I observe none of these temperature jumps with my 1700X. I can change that behavior, though, using the temperature compensation value in the BIOS on the C6H. If I use 63, the default, then I get actual temperatures. If I set 62, then I see temperatures 20C higher (default for AMD behavior)...
  37. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    Loosen your heatsink/waterblock mounting. Solved that problem for me.
  38. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    I've seen that the dLDOs are, in fact, active... and I've seen the opposite. Both claimed by people who should know. I think they're active, personally, but I have no idea how to test that.
  39. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    So, I got my wife's Ryzen 5 1400 in today. It *IS* a 2+2 configuration, with 4MB L3 enabled per CCX. Interestingly, the cores are interleaved by Windows. Core 0 & Core 2 are on CCX 0 Core 1 & Core 3 are on CCX 1 CCX latency penalty is still showing as 20ns, have yet to profile cache...
  40. Ryzen: Strictly technical

    If it's calculating it with the command voltage, then there's no hope. It seems like a pretty dumb way to measure power as well, considering the SMU must also be aware of the real voltage supplied to each core to best adapt to real voltage. Otherwise AMD may as well have just stuck with the...
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