This.
If it's just in between DRAM or a few bit points less - this is a F U to any sort of stacked anything.
...and a revival for the IGP in the future.
1 Pool would of fast storage would make any cpu the last 10 years from intel seem lightning fast to the everyday user.
Not to mention all...
@MiddleofTheRoad:
Given that AMD themselves cannot even dream of a break-even next quarter - and over half their revenue is now Consoles...
If we ignore the AMD Bears (you know who :) ) - How can you not say that AMD is in relatively large trouble considering Carrizo has to have an...
It occured to me that now programming is mainstream (And programming apparently includes webscripting for most people) - aren't Assembly programmers, hardware and circuit logic designers like ...rockstars?
Finding people that have passion and can understand the complex system rules all the way...
I think the low Turbo is more a testament of the both choice and that 14nm hopefully exhibits the tank of monster process that was 32nm.
Intel has no GHZ arms race anymore, so no need to go massively overboard with turbo creating more performance in segment such as ours.
They know we're gonna...
@IDC:
Would you say given what we're potentially seeing - that Intel has slept too much on it dominant node position and may now start loosing some of it's advantage?
It seems despite the turncoats in taiwan - both TSMC & Samsung are (while not 100% comparable in parametric\physical sizes)...
Intel would sooner purchase AMD - to not have to deal with samsung gaining access to whatever AMD offers, x86 or not.
AMD in the spot it is - is Intel's dream.
Samsung would perhaps not put that in danger on certain fronts(desktop) - but it sure as hell might do it on others.
...The thing is...
IBM also has sub-10nm nanotube transistors ready.
Just not for mass logic production.
Market does not have infrastructure in place for " seemlees streaming of screen signals and input\output control".
And that ain't happening for a long while - despite the fact it's been technicly feasible for...
You've still got to admire Samsung.
Once that behemoth machine corporation decides to do something - nothing is gonna stop them from doing it.
And i'm quite sure their gonna do it at profit as well -even if profit is small.
They will win some customers from TSMC with the PR stunts - you just...
GRID and gaming on the go full scale seems most likely.
maybe some extra CARS and TV and other stuff added in?
but seems like GRID fits the boxes most.
I think everyone is all for diversity - but if there's one place i don't want diversity or other hippie constructs to make life pleasant for everyone...it's science & technology.
all that should matter here is advancement and performance.
Best for the job regardless (Which i assume is how...
Ouch, man, Ouch.
And your probably the person in this forum - i'd value most serious in terms of "predicting microprocessor future".
I geuss if you see it like this - this is why we'll see more and more bloomberg\similar mainstream business sites now beginning to pick up doom and gloom articles.
It's extremely unlogical that overall Intel would sell a product with worse IPC across the line.
We have low power variants - for better perf\watt.
Your basicly saying intel would release a 2500k>3500k with worse IPC.
That's what i'm saying is unthinkable and stupid.
I don't have high...
In some ways - but it was also a design bet on MT being king.
This is pretty much saying FX 8150 should have a been 6 core, sameclocked and lower IPC Product.
Even AMD would not let that happen, hence why 8 "cores" were devised.
Even tho IPC doesn't bump much - how on earth could you possibly think that would happen meloz?
Intel have had all the oppertunity to play the moar cores game and win on cost\margins - but chose not too.
Jesus.
Can you imagine any proud engineer\manager\VP\etc accepting WORSE performance on...
I'm skeptical that if all it tooks was a few hundred million dollars to create a way to increase IPC dramaticly - somehow even MIPS would have found a way to get it created before these guys.
Even Intel has to be researching new design ways - or experimenting with making new theorectical ISAs...
They can make the scanning work in a static enviroment.
wouldn't google be incredibly interested in this for StreetView?
They'd have an epic solution - if one could scan proper for mapping.
But it still makes me wonder - how Euclideon is so unique and how someone randomly can create such...
Isn't the question more...
What American technology company doesn't have backdoors created for the NSA?
So to end your discussion - don't buy american technology ;)
One has to wonder - if the tech truly had some sort groundbreaking merit or just that secretsauce angle to a well known problem...
If it is truly groundbreaking.....who would be the prime big player to move this forward?
....Intel?
From the video as others have mentioned.... it looks like once they get super detailed, choppiness comes + direct closeup detail is kinda bad.
...meaning in the end, they do need horsepower just like everyone else?
How can people argue Intel's process tech is eradicated - when we've all agreed Node names are just marketing labels ?
The raw performance of the node is hard to box down - but does anyone really think Samsung or anyone else can get close to Intel if say Apple had invested the same...
It's amazing how much IBM Research in general does in providing some sort of "POC" for certain theories.
I wonder how Intel\TSMC etc, would be without indications from IBM that certain technologies are technicly possible - so their engineers can figure out how to make it profitable.
MOAR IPC.
...and drastic ammounts of it.
Just genuine absolutely spanking brand new IPC across legacy and newer instructions.
If intel dropped a 50% raw IPC chip - comparing to previous generation, kept it locked for Desktop.
Then you'd see some serious sales.
Unfourtunately not - both GF\Samsung have rejected FDSOI as viable - and ibm becoming fringe if even existing fab at all in the next few years - it has zero adoption.
Very Interesting Article from Handel.
It's kinda all coming together now ain't it ?
Even in technology you can't really stop Old Money.
Sure we have new companies sprout up - and disrupt but if Old Money wants to muscle in...it will.
There's nothing real to indicate it - but wouldn't it be...
...considering the forum geekers - we're the base of the site for many years before it became more "look at the new thing apple is doing" - aren't we entitled to some attention to more and more sparse enthusiast released gagdets? :)
Lets say we wait and see how DC \ 4790k works out...
3700 mhz to 4700 mhz = roughly 27% Clockspeed increase
SB>HW IPC = 14-17% ipc increase
+ various HT bonuses
You should hopefully gain minimum 40% somewhat relative "CPU Performance".
That would tempt me massively.
Since piednoel is boasting....
Is it possible some of those FIVR things, need to be seriously tweaked\balanced and OC'ing won't just be multipliers like Sandy\IVY?
If normal ES samples were just clocked up and some idiot said "OMFG NOT STABLE" there might be some credence to Piednoel...
If people don't want to build themselves and don't want the individually by far best performance\watt\price options available...then let them get second best.
When someone defies logic and data - it's usually for different reasons the choice was made and\or cannot be changed now anyway.
Am i the only one confused by his wording and lack of actual description of testing cooler as well?
4.7 @ 1,36 maybe alot of voltage ..... but alot of original haswells didnt even stretch that far... and on the stock cooler?
I'm confused wether to be positive or negative over that OC review -_-
Lovely ambiguous tag text.
Could be a SKU ...could be a MicroArchitecture....
Is there anyone that actually pays charlie 1000 USD to be a "professional subscriber"?
....just as i said earlier.
A desktop power user cannot be excited by less power delivery for 100? 200 mhz? average more OC.
F-That to be honest.
This is intel reaming the OC\Enthusiast crowd and Mobile\ATOM taking centerstage.
We are not important anymore - so i geuss we better start buying...
Let me get this straight.
You are clapping in your hands for what is essentially a factory OC'ed 4770k.
...that so far shows no promise of improving ANYTHING on the OC front comparing to a 4770k.
is your name is like...ironic or something?
Personal attacks will not be tolerated
-ViRGE
Your in an enthusiast forum.
We are technicly robbed of a 14nm desktop part for now - and we gain a replacement that is higherclocked in base - yet may OC worse.
Thats not something i'm excited about....yet.
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