$20 is a waste of money for that card. Save the $20 and stick with what you have, or add $10-15 more and you can find a used 8800 or 9800 or a 250 with more than double the performance.
I was referring to IPC / total throughput. Not threads. If you compare the benchmarks for these two processors, at stock clocks, the Sandy has nearly double the throughput of the 920 Phenom II. The 8-core metaphor might not be the best, but I was trying to communicate the relative IPC to the OP.
The best chip on the market is Sandy Bridge, for per-clock performance. Overclocking your 920 is a good idea, but won't put you within striking distance of the 2500K. The 2500K is essentially a 4.2Ghz chip (ie. it runs that speed with stock voltage). At stock settings, the 2500K is like an...
The SB-E overclock thread is here, you can post there for help from people with similar boards.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2207869
4.2Ghz should be about as easy as raising the multiplier to 42 (assuming base clock of 100), and maybe bumping load line calibration one notch...
The Matrix 580s are extremely quiet both idle and load. I have 2 in SLI, and I cannot tell they are there; the rear and front 120mm chassis fans are the loudest thing in my build.
For a new purchase, I wouldn't go less than 500W. Nothing wrong with the CX500, and it comes with two 6+2 pin plugs.
I've had no problems with the CX430 model, running 2600K + GTX 560, however, it just doesn't give much headroom for the future.
Having a weak processor that will bottleneck a video card still isn't a reason not to buy the right video card. Buy as much video card as you can afford, and you can bring it forward when you change the motherboard + chip eventually.
The challenge is how to use your $200 budget to get playable...
You will be fine with the Hyper (EVO) with a 2500K. They are easier to cool than the 2600K.
A EVO will even take the 2500K to 5.0Ghz as long as you aren't planning on running BOINC or Folding @ Home, or some other 24/7 crunching. The load temps on a 2500K under a 212 EVO at 5Ghz are around 75C...
So help me parse this email from Intel level 2 support.
I bolded the items that lead me to believe the BIOS fix is indeed a software patch for a bug that needs to be fixed in hardware. Besides that, there is no BIOS update for my board that I see addresses the problem.
I noticed a distinct improvement with site performance after the migration, however, I also noticed a distinct drop in service quality in private message notifications. I've been tracking it for a while now, and it is more than just intermittent.
Actually, believe it or not, Intel is telling customers that even first stepping of SB-E does have VT-d capability, and just needs a BIOS update to use correctly. This goes for 3930K and 3960X. The 2500k and 2600K chips do not have the capability period.
Yes, exactly as AK47 says. The ASUS boards put up the RAID notice before some slower monitors even switch out of energy saving mode, which annoys the heck out of me. I have some older Samsung 21" LCDs that I cannot use when setting up these boards. Try just hitting CTRL-I or holding it down...
@Grooveriding: Yes, probably correct. I escalated my ticket again, and will do so until someone gives me a actual explanation of the problem. They are still using customer speak with me at this point.
The problem is, none of these links are Intel announcements, and Intel is actually telling us now that there is no processor bug, and that it is a BIOS microcode problem that has been fixed. I have two emails from 2nd level Intel support specifically saying there is no processor with a bug. I...
I feel the same. For some reason in this day and age, people cannot answer a simple question with a simple answer. It takes 10 minutes of run around jargon and a long email and I still don't have an answer.
If I told my software customers who reported a bug that the "bug was fixed already" and...
Agreed. The level one support informed me it was a BIOS issue, directed me to contact ASUS, then when I persisted, he asked me to reply to the support ticket with links to where I read that it was a chip bug. I obliged, but I lack confidence that my case is being handled properly if support...
If you need to use all DIMM slots and plan to use air-cooling, don't get the tall RAM (heat spreaders) (Corsair Vengeance or G.Skill Ripjaws X) or be prepared not to use the left-most DIMM slot to provide clearance. Either use a CPU waterblock, or buy standard height or low-profile DIMMs that...
Anyone have links to any original Intel announcements on this bug? All I can find are the Product Change Notifications that don't detail the changes, but I see no official statements. I called Intel Support, and the first level support tech wasn't aware of the issue, then claimed it would be...
Darn, how do I tell which stepping I have? I bought first wave, on the release date.
CPU-Z shows "Stepping: 6" for my 3930K
And I actually use VMware a lot, just haven't configured VT-d on this station yet. I assume I have a warranty claim now if I was not aware of this?
Correct, that is the point of a forum. When posting data to a forum, expect to have it critiqued and discussed and debunked. If people cannot handle that in a mature manner, and accept constructive criticism, then a forum isn't the place to go. :)
Well pardon me that I loose track of what you said, maybe trim the posts down a bit and it would be easier. When you post real data, I'll be interested. Thanks.
@OP - RussianSensation was not attacking you, but you seem to be busy attacking him and defending yourself when you could just update your original post with an apples-to-apples comparison (both systems with the same number of GPUs) and/or actual framerates to support your claims, and we'd all...
Its an indicator of:
1) The maturity level of the people on the forum.
2) What sort of example the site admins / moderators set.
3) What sort of moderation, if any, exists on the site.
If the site has [] in its name, I avoid it nowadays. Not many reviews can hold a candle to Anand's anyway.
I don't know what any of this has to do with my thread. Did you post in the wrong thread?
I'm not doing water cooling for my GPUs or discussing fittings, etc.
PS: If you are getting a lot of views on your site and don't want that, you should also remove the URLs from this thread. Bots will...
I have some family coming in for Christmas, and usually my nephews like to invade my home office and look at my hardware and tell me I should run some cool games on it. I want to setup a little fun this year for once.
I have 4 desks and 3 good rigs (see my sig), and I'm putting together a 4th...
Thanks, I wish it was that simple. I actually have a Corsair GS800 PSU sitting around, but these Dells use proprietary PSUs as far as I know, and I think even the motherboard ATX plug is different.
The Dell Precision 390 actually has a 500W PSU option, dunno why I didn't have one with the...
I guess the GTS 250 is the safer bet. It gets decent frames, and doesn't require much more than the 9800 GT EE, and I stand less chance of killing the PSU.
Thanks, I will do that.
I really can't argue with that, it is the most obvious culprit, but I've just never seen it manifest like this.
I have several other GPUs that require less juice than a 260, heck I have a 560 I could try that appears to draw less juice than the 260-216.
Well it is odd that one model of 260-216 runs fine, but another does not.
The only thing I can think of it the EVGA card is downclocking based on lack of adequate juice, and it seems everyone else agrees that 375W is tight for a 260.
So I guess I'll drop back to the 250 or the 9800 GT, and...
Well, seriously. Will a card throttle down like this?
I've always had the system go lights-out if I overloaded. I had an older 8800 GTX I think that drew a lot of juice overclocked and it ran ok in the same model (I have two of these).
Give me a break. Yes I did research.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2619/9 shows 275W total system draw at load.
This isn't normally a gaming machine, and the PSU is what it is. I've got several cards, just trying to see what will work to make a 4th box for someone to game on.
If the power...
The GTS 250 512MB puts up 40FPS at the entrance to the park. 10FPS faster than the 9800 GT, and 20FPS faster than the 260-216. :(
I suppose I should try the other 260 just to make sure there isn't something wrong with the card.
Hmm, you think so?
That crossed my mind, but I would expect the PSU to shutdown first.
I'm testing a GTS 250 (512MB) just for comparison now. I also have a 2nd 260-216 (MSI brand) I will try too.
They are both running DX10, with same options. Both are DX10 GPUs.
The 260 has 896MB of VRAM but I can't see this sort of difference with 100mb difference. I checked Anandbench and the numbers for 260 I'm seeing are definitely lower than they should be.
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