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Apple ditching Intel chips as soon as 2020

Rumor coming out of GDC that Xbox Next and PS5 are switching to ARM-based CPU's. Now Apple Mac. Obsolescence of x86 truly is on the horizon.
- eastofeastside
- Post #5
- Apr 2, 2018
- Forum: Apple
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Samsung outs Exynos 9 Series 9810

It's the 'forest' of the larger, long-term, strategic business case for ARM that I want to bring focus to. The 'tree' of the immediately apparent technical choice of Ryzen is too obvious. Every next-gen anticipation period the message boards rally around some apparently obvious assumption, only...
- eastofeastside
- Post #288
- Mar 15, 2018
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Samsung outs Exynos 9 Series 9810

Sorry, for being 'that guy' asking this question, but what might, hypothetically, 8 M3 cores @2.9Ghz in a single octacore configuration be like in, say, a next-gen game console... ;), performance wise? Would such a configuration even be possible within thermal design limitations?
- eastofeastside
- Post #281
- Mar 13, 2018
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Samsung outs Exynos 9 Series 9810

Exynos 9810 has a similar GB single-thread score (approx. 3700) as Ryzen mobile despite a 2.8Ghz vs 3.6Ghz max clock difference? What is the most accurate way to interpret this? Can M3 claim a ST victory over Ryzen mobile with 800mhz lower clock and 3 watts lower tdp, or are there caveats?
- eastofeastside
- Post #274
- Mar 12, 2018
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Samsung outs Exynos 9 Series 9810

Does anyone expect ARM to release its own 'big core', a stock ARM core to expand up to custom big core category i.e. Mongoose, Monsoon, and K12? ARM currently has no updated roadmap beyond A75. With ARM unveiling a new flagship core every year it makes one curious what it has in store for the...
- eastofeastside
- Post #263
- Mar 9, 2018
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Samsung outs Exynos 9 Series 9810

Yes, but K12, or the next-gen ARM core, will also be 7nm. It comes down to which solution is going to maximize die area, tdp, and cost per core efficiency which will be clearly in the favor of ARM, on the simple principle that a core architected for a specific, low power envelope, and...
- eastofeastside
- Post #250
- Feb 25, 2018
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Samsung outs Exynos 9 Series 9810

Yes, backwards-compatibility of next-gen's consoles is an interesting issue to discuss. Ryzen can be outright dismissed as a next-gen console class CPU for similar reasons, though not quite to the same degree, that Bulldozer wasn't used in PS4/Xbox, i.e., wasted silicon using a desktop/server...
- eastofeastside
- Post #244
- Feb 25, 2018
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Samsung outs Exynos 9 Series 9810

Don't worry all the pieces will fit when K12 is announced as the next-gen XBOX and PlayStation CPU core. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/05/05/amd_announces_project_sky_bridge_and_k12_demos_seattle/ There is another Su quote about K12's availability for semi-custom after its 'shelving'...
- eastofeastside
- Post #236
- Feb 24, 2018
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Samsung outs Exynos 9 Series 9810

I don't totally believe Lisa Su's PR statement about ARM. While Zen x86 may have the focus now, I still believe ARM-based R&D is happening at AMD even if it's scaled back, or x86 has priority. AMD has a campus in Austin where ARM is engineering Ares, the next-gen Cortex A75 successor. I just...
- eastofeastside
- Post #227
- Feb 21, 2018
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Samsung outs Exynos 9 Series 9810

Looking at the bigger picture, it just seems very apparently obvious that the time of x86's inevitable technological obsolescence is here. It's not even a matter of debating the technical merits of one ISA versus another. Mobile disrupted previously dominant PC's and by extension the ARM ISA...
- eastofeastside
- Post #223
- Feb 19, 2018
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Samsung outs Exynos 9 Series 9810

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12312/getting-radeon-vega-everywhere-an-exclusive-interview-with-dr-lisa-su-amd-ceo So if K12, or some other Zen based ARM development was continuing would she say? This is a recent article, Jan, 2018. I was hopeful K12 would reboot around the next-gen ARM core...
- eastofeastside
- Post #209
- Feb 17, 2018
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Samsung outs Exynos 9 Series 9810

K12? Was K12 supposed to be the "new small core"? It was obviously designed to a high level before being shelved. Is expecting K12 or a future variant in consoles, low power Windows laptops, or Chromebooks a stretch?
- eastofeastside
- Post #199
- Feb 16, 2018
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Samsung outs Exynos 9 Series 9810

I appreciate what you are saying about ARM versus x86 efficiency differences. I still have another question from another perspective, though. Ryzen is a server/desktop core from which the lower grade, mobile versions are binned. Take Jaguar and Atom as example of cores architected specifically...
- eastofeastside
- Post #192
- Feb 16, 2018
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Samsung outs Exynos 9 Series 9810

Great Zen vs M3 discussion. My interest in asking is on the potential for ARM to have an impact over x86 in low to mid-range Windows 10 laptops and Chromebooks. And secondly, on the possibility for an ARM based PS5/XBOX next-gen console CPU. I specifically wanted to know if a big ARM core...
- eastofeastside
- Post #188
- Feb 15, 2018
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Samsung outs Exynos 9 Series 9810

What does Exynos 9810 outscoring Ryzen 5 mobile single-thread performance mean in terms of a core-to-core comparison of M3 core vs Ryzen mobile? Is this a major efficiency statement for M3 or do these scores not translate into a meaningful real world comparison? Exynos 9810: Single-Core...
- eastofeastside
- Post #161
- Feb 14, 2018
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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XBitlabs: Advanced Micro Devices Set to Unveil New Strategy Next Week

Specifically the Xenon E3-1260L mentioned in the performance chart?
- eastofeastside
- Post #207
- Nov 20, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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XBitlabs: Advanced Micro Devices Set to Unveil New Strategy Next Week

Take a look at this X-Gene Applied Micro ARMv8 64bit server chip. Couldn't something similar to it work for a next-gen console: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5098/appl ... -armv8-soc Half the performance of Intel Sandy Bridge Xeon at only 2 watts per core. You could have a quad core...
- eastofeastside
- Post #204
- Nov 19, 2011
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking

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