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    Question i7 12700k no temp in MSI MAG Z690, using less than 11% capacity

    @truevine77 I have never seen a BD PROCHOT issue caused by the power supply. On desktop computers, it is usually a motherboard issue where a sensor shorts out or something on the motherboard shorts out. This triggers an external throttling signal to be sent to the CPU using the BD PROCHOT...
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    Question i7 12700k no temp in MSI MAG Z690, using less than 11% capacity

    Not that amazing. Intel's diagnostic software is too dumb to report BD PROCHOT throttling issues. A CPU stuck at 400 MHz is definitely not OK. Have you run ThrottleStop yet? It takes 2 seconds to click on the Limits button to open up the Limit Reasons window to diagnose this problem. If BD...
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    Question Low wattage CPUS

    Intel's power hungry 10850K can be a low power CPU if you know how to setup Windows and if you enable the low power C states. Use O&O ShutUp10 to turn off some of the Windows 10 bloatware. The C0% number in ThrottleStop can be extremely low when the bloatware is disabled. I prefer a fast CPU...
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    Question FPS and GPU usage drops to 10% every 5-10 second

    Post some screenshots of how you have ThrottleStop setup. Make sure the BD PROCHOT box is clear.
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    X9000 cpu, in my HP 8710p Lap top. Can I OVERCLOCK?

    The X9000 is an Extreme CPU so you can definitely overclock it by using ThrottleStop. If you can find a way to keep it cool, 4000 MHz is possible.
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    Gaming with my INTEL i7 10th GEN 1.80 GHz

    Good news. ThrottleStop supports Intel's new low power 10th Gen U series. In the right chassis, these CPUs are absolute beasts after some tweaking. How about over 4 GHz on all cores when fully loaded? The Core i7-10510U may come from Intel with a 15 Watt TDP rating but don't be fooled. It...
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    Intel turbo boost stopped working in Windows 7

    To go beyond the 22 multiplier you need to have either the C3, C6 or C7 core C state enabled in the bios. Try using ThrottleStop. It will report if your CPU is using any of the C states.
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    Intel Speed Shift Technology... MIA?

    ThrottleStop 8.40 https://www.sendspace.com/file/p6wkzr The latest version of ThrottleStop will show you SST in green on the main screen just like HWiNFO shows when Speed Shift is enabled. In ThrottleStop, this will be blank if SST is not enabled. Speed Shift can be enabled in any version...
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    Uncontrollable CPU Throttling?

    When running dual monitors, the GPU is usually brought up to full speed. Try monitoring the GPU speed with GPU-Z. This creates a lot of unnecessary heat but there isn't much you can do about that. Cleaning your laptop thoroughly and replacing the thermal paste on the GPU will help. Many...
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    Run at 100% speed all the time?

    SSD benchmarks tend to show the greatest difference when various C States are enabled. I think this is because the benchmark does not load the CPU enough to force it to run at full speed. Real world applications should show less difference because they will be using the CPU more. You can use...
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    Turboboost limitation

    Intel CPUs use high performance timers that run at billions of cycles per second so it is very easy to precisely determine exactly how much turbo boost the CPU is using at any moment in time. Intel published a paper back in November 2008 when the first generation Core i CPUs were released...
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    Need help: Odd CPU scaling with new Skylake i7

    A couple of interesting things I noticed is that Skylake CPUs support new C States like C8. It looks like Dell has disabled C8 in the bios. They also seem to be limiting your package C States to only C3. It's not good when Intel pours millions of dollars into R&D so their CPUs will consume...
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    Need help: Odd CPU scaling with new Skylake i7

    The reported package and IA core power data that all software reports is not based on actual power consumption. This number is calculated within the CPU and its only purpose is for management of the Intel Turbo Boost feature. At idle, it is a meaningless number. Have a look at the percentage...
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    Need help: Odd CPU scaling with new Skylake i7

    Old school thinking was that you had to reduce the MHz to save power when idle but modern CPUs use various C States to reduce power consumption when idle. When a CPU core enters C7, it is disconnected from the voltage rail and its internal clock speed is zero. Using monitoring software that...
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    Need help: Odd CPU scaling with new Skylake i7

    ThrottleStop 8.00 beta 5 https://www.sendspace.com/file/p1q40a ThrottleStop is still a work in progress but it should work OK with a Skylake laptop. Post some pics if you have any problems. Make sure BD PROCHOT is not checked, check off Set Multiplier and set that to the maximum value and...
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    what is going on with my rig?

    ThrottleStop 6.00 does not support 8 core CPUs. The latest version should work OK. I wrote the program so both of those download links are safe. ThrottleStop 8.00 https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0dpSo9k93jDTE1fcHNtbUMwdGc https://www.sendspace.com/file/b4oure There is never any reason to...
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    The Intel Atom Thread

    It might. If there is a heatsink, is there any way to do some surgery and replace the thermal paste or tighten it up so it makes better contact with the CPU? 3 degrees away from TJ Max doesn't give a person much wiggle room.
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    Underclocking haswell to lower max TDP

    You need to enable the Clamp option to make sure power consumption does not exceed 35 watts. It does not look like the Clamp option is available in the Asus bios.
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    The Intel Atom Thread

    Have you tried using ThrottleStop 8.00? phonixner on NBR managed to significantly improve the performance of his Bay Trail Z3735D. http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/page-306#post-10007257 If anyone has a Cherry Trail CPU, send me a message so I can...
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    Underclocking haswell to lower max TDP

    In your screenshot, the Package Power Limits Lock box is not checked. That means that these power limits were not locked by the bios so you should try using these first. On desktop motherboards, these limits are often times set sky high so they never become a limiting factor, especially when...
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    Underclocking haswell to lower max TDP

    Adjusting the Maximum processor state in the Control Panel is a poor way to solve this problem because it reduces performance when the CPU is lightly loaded. The CPU will always run slow even when running a single threaded task and the power consumption is way under the 35 Watt target. As...
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    i7 970 Bios & Turbo

    For maximum turbo boost to work correctly, C1E enabled or disabled is not important. You need to enable either C3 or C6. RealTemp or ThrottleStop can report what C States are enabled. Most other software does not. CPU-Z and HWiNFO do not necessarily report the maximum multiplier correctly...
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    Configuration problem with RealTemp at startup

    Delete the RealTemp.INI configuration file. This will force RealTemp to create a new one. Either that or check this file to make sure you have Read / Write access to it. If you have moved RealTemp from one directory to a different one, this file will get blocked so your settings will not be...
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    i7 970 Bios & Turbo

    Post some screenshots of ThrottleStop. Open up the C State window to make sure your CPU is using the deeper C States when it is idle. Run a single thread of the built in TS Bench and take another screenshot of ThrottleStop when the CPU is running this test. It is possible that the bios is not...
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    i7 970 Bios & Turbo

    You would need to enable either the C3 or C6 core C State in the bios in order for your CPU to use the highest multiplier. ThrottleStop or RealTemp GT will accurately tell you what your multiplier really is. ThrottleStop 8.00 beta 2...
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    Is it safe for CPU?

    ThrottleStop 8.00 https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0dpSo9k93jDTE1fcHNtbUMwdGc&authuser=0 The latest version has many more features for the newer CPUs like undervolting. This can help reduce the CPU temperature so you can continue to run your CPU at its full rated speed with less worries.
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    Why is my CPU dropping to 1.6ghz even though high perf mode is enabled?

    PhIlLy ChEeSe - Most users don't realize that Turbo Boost needs to be enabled within the CPU so Intel's 2nd, 3rd and 4th Gen CPUs can run at full speed. Unfortunately Gigabyte created an option in their bios that gives users the impression that they can disable Turbo Boost and use a high...
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    Why is my CPU dropping to 1.6ghz even though high perf mode is enabled?

    Do yourself a favor and avoid using TMonitor. Anyone that recommends this program has never properly tested it. TMonitor does not correctly report the CPU MHz for Core i or Core 2 CPUs when they are lightly loaded. The programmer's explanation didn't make any sense years ago and it makes even...
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    Why is my CPU dropping to 1.6ghz even though high perf mode is enabled?

    That's right. Normally a CPU will only drop down under load and start using the 16 multiplier if it reaches the thermal throttling temperature. The first couple of posts show that his CPU is not anywhere near the thermal throttling temperature so that is not the problem. As Dufus mentioned...
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    Why is my CPU dropping to 1.6ghz even though high perf mode is enabled?

    No surprise. You need to disable BD PROCHOT and the easiest way to do this is with ThrottleStop. If the link I posted to version 7 scares you then head over to TechPowerUp and download version 6. I have seen this problem before. If a CPU is not thermal throttling then the only reason it is...
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    Why is my CPU dropping to 1.6ghz even though high perf mode is enabled?

    Your screenshot shows a 30% load on your CPU and AIDA64 is showing 1200 MHz. That's wrong. It is a bug in AIDA64. Some monitoring apps have a problem correctly reporting the multiplier when a 6 core CPU is lightly loaded. If you want to know exactly what your CPU multiplier is doing then...
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    Why is my CPU dropping to 1.6ghz even though high perf mode is enabled?

    Time to rethink that. If AIDA64 is showing you the 12 multiplier while the Passmark test is running then it is time to find another monitoring app. AIDA64 is wrong. I just ran the Passmark test and the multiplier never dropped. Include CPU-Z 1.71.1 and RealTemp in your next screenshot if...
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    Why is my CPU dropping to 1.6ghz even though high perf mode is enabled?

    When a sensor gets too hot on your motherboard, it will send a signal to your CPU and force your CPU down to 1600 MHz. You can disable this signal by turning off BD PROCHOT. ThrottleStop is the only software that lets you do that. This temperature sensor causing the problem could be on your...
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    Why is my CPU dropping to 1.6ghz even though high perf mode is enabled?

    ThrottleStop 7.00 beta 3 https://www.sendspace.com/file/oquhg3 This program can fix your problem. Run ThrottleStop and make sure BD PROCHOT is not checked. If this does not instantly fix your problem then make sure EIST is enabled in the bios and in ThrottleStop, check the Set Multiplier box...
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    Laptop question - what would you do?

    Throttling in the newer laptops is mostly power consumption related and not temperature related, especially when using one of Intel's low powered U series CPUs. Different manufacturers use different throttling schemes so it is a real crap shoot when buying one of these. A 4200U in one device...
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    I7-3770K at 3.2Ghz - actually OC'd to 5Ghz in BIOS

    The two things that control your CPU MHz as reported by RealTemp are your C States and your Minimum processor state which can be adjusted in the Control Panel - Power Options. If you want a constant 4.7 GHz when lightly loaded or idle, the minimum processor state needs to be set to 100% and the...
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    C6/C7 Power States with Intel Haswell CPUs

    I would like to see some testing of this with a 4th Gen CPU and a Samsung EVO or Pro SSD drive. When testing, make sure that you are using the Windows High Performance profile. I think some of the latency issues that were previously measured were because of the sluggish Windows Balanced...
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    C6/C7 Power States with Intel Haswell CPUs

    Just for comparison, here is a picture of an overclocked 4700MQ mobile CPU. The individual cores are spending 99% of their time in C7 while the entire CPU package is spending just under 80% of the time in the C6 package C state. Some of the newer low power mobile CPUs also support deeper C...
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    Why does Intel care less about power-saving on the desktop than mobile?

    That includes an Nvidia GPU and my Core i5 is overclocked to 4400 MHz. 49 Watts is less than half what my similar Core 2 Quad QX9650 system consumes when idle so Intel and computer manufacturers are definitely heading in the right direction. Here's some math. 50 Watts = 0.05 kWh If my...
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    Why does Intel care less about power-saving on the desktop than mobile?

    RealTemp T|I Edition https://www.sendspace.com/file/55yvry The C State window above is from RealTemp 4.00 which has not yet been publicly released. The RealTemp T|I edition also includes core and package C State reporting. Intel's Core i CPUs include high performance timers so it is easy...
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