PCARS is in pre-alpha and has been since it was announced years ago. Oh no, AMD drivers have not been optimised, for a very early pre-alpha version of a game that is not due until Q4 2014 (or 2015). Well I'm convinced, this is total proof that Nvidia do DX11 better than AMD. All those...
AMD are short of components in part (not the sole factor) because of the increased number of cards sold to miners. I did state the word IF as a qualifier.
So IF miners are purchasing a significant percentage of cards for mining, there are less for gamers and prices shoot up because of supply...
If Nvidia became good at mining prices would go up across the board, they most certainly would not go down. If miners are purchasing all the cards supply dries up and prices skyrocket.
This would not stabilise prices, it would simply mean we pay more for less from both Nvidia and AMD.
No, I said the mining craze effect on the overall sales would not show until Q1 because the mining craze didn't begin until the very end of Q3. I also believe that the mining craze is not the sole factor in the shortages in the US. This is because in the UK and Europe, AMD GPU stock has been...
I don't claim AMD's supply issues are purely as a result of the mining craze, but it is certainly does have an effect to some extent. Clearly in the US there are supply issues but here in the UK at least it has been possible to purchase all AMD products at MSRP.
One of the main suppliers here...
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the mining craze not really take off until very late Q4?
AMD cards including R9 290/X were still at MSRP until mid Dec in the US and never rose above MSRP here in Europe at all. So the mining craze effect would not really show until the Q1 2014 results are...
If SLI is even remotely on your radar then get one with more VRAM. 2GB is fine now with 1080p but if games do start demanding more VRAM in a year or two, then the selling price of a 2GB card will tank badly. Personally I would go with GTX780 over GTX770 4BG all day long.
Assuming US prices...
How does that change anything? He still said take Nvidia's marketing numbers with several grains of salt. Either way you cut it he is calling BS on their marketing numbers
It doesn't hurt AMD because everyone knows that the price hikes are down to unscrupulous retailers such as Newegg. While AMD may have lost a sale to you they made that sale (and more) to cryptocoin miners. So in the long run AMD still got the sale.
The only possible downside I can see is if...
PhysX is not a low level API and it most certainly does not expose extra performance. It is a middleware that works with DirectX and in all cases where GPU PhsysX is enabled performance is reduced significantly on Nvidia hardware.
Of course we now start getting the old, "anything that shows AMD/Mantle in a good light" must be debunked BS.
Star Swarm is a loaded test and cannot be taken seriously
BF4 with mantle has washed out colours and draws less detail
Please, at least lets see how Mantle matures before declaring it...
The OP wants an objective discussion, yet refuses to acknowledge when some of his arguments are completely debunked. How can someone possibly be objective if they refuse to change their mind based on solid evidence?
He claims Mantle isn't backward compatible with DirectX. Yet refuses to...
Sorry, I edited my post to remove that as it seemed silly after I typed it. :)
The cryptocoin craze did hit the rest of the world, but clearly the price gouging bastard retailers in the US are total mongrels compared to the rest of the world. :)
Prices in Europe for R9 290/X cards have remained at, or even below MSRP since release. If there was a component shortage then Europe would be seeing supply shortages coupled with price increases as well as the US.
Some facts.
There is plenty of supply and prices are still at MSRP in Europe...
A troll generally knows what they are stating is BS, their sole aim is to get a rise by posting FUD. Carfax's posts fall into a completely different category.
LOL, you truly are the epitome of a blinkered Nvidia fan aren't you.
Nvidia = great for taking two years to add a feature to DX and AMD = fail for taking the same time to write a complete API from scratch. I've read it all now. :eek:
Nope
The point I was making is that right right now it is only an alpha that works for limited hardware, that could and will change. Here let me remind you.
"Instead of waiting to see if it can bring benefits to PC gaming they are much quicker to declare it pointless."
It's not what I...
A lot of ifs in that statement.
Windows 9 is planned for mid-late 2015 depending on the rumours you believe. Even then there are no guarantees that DX12 will be part of that release.
I find it amazing that the vast majority of Nvidia fans are happy to predict Mantle's demise before it has been...
HD 7770 is a cut down Tahiti GPU called Cape Verde, both belong to the Southern Islands family of GPUs.
So it is indeed a Tahiti derivative GPU. Though you did say "majority" and in no way should that be inferred as "all". :)
It may be small but it is still there. While it might be nitpicking to say your statement was wrong it is important to differentiate between right and almost right. :)
Surely the CPU load does increase by a marginal amount? After all the load on the HD, SATA, RAM, etc will increase due to much higher requirements on data throughput. The CPU controls these components and I assume has to work harder as a result?
Mantle is going to be released in more games and I hope other developers see the potential here. My opinion is that Nvidia should adopt Mantle and then all games will have it.
Hopefully AMD are not bullshitting when they claim Mantle will eventually be available as open source.
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2014/erste-eindruecke-zu-amds-mantle/2/
Try that one, it includes BF4 SP and MP results as well as Star Swarm results. Multiple cards tested from AMD and Nvidia.
Single Player = ~14% increase at 1080p with i7 4770k. 28% increase in MP with the...
Overclocked high end CPU with high end GPU = 18% performance gain.
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.computerbase.de/news/2014-02/battlefield-4-mit-mantle-erster-eigener-benchmark/
So a very good increase in that test. Or should it be...
See what I mean, totally makes stuff up to suit the agenda that mantle = suck. There has been results released showing a high end Intel CPU with 2x R9 290X in crossfire gaining 58% performance. Have you elected to ignore that result? Clearly this alone shows that there is potential there for...
This is indeed a problem. Mantle does have drawback, such as GCN only and low number of games supported (so far). If Mantle does give improvements and innovates then why are Nvidia fans not waiting with baited breath to see what it delivers? Then if it does genuinely bring improvements to PC...
[H] pointed out that the GTX 780TI cards throttled back to their core clock speed and stayed there during the tests. Brent makes it clear why this is happening in the post below.
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1040581044&postcount=49
GTX780 (and Ti) are set at 80c target temperatures and...
Here in the UK custom cooled R9 290/X cards sell for only ~£20-£30 over their reference brethren. It took AIBs far too long to get these custom cooled cards available in numbers. So for the 1st month only one retailer had them at extortionate prices. A Sapphire R9 290X three weeks ago cost...
GTX570 started to become VRAM limited well over a year ago, when it was 2 years old. It is 3 years 2 months old as off right now, did you forget Nov is 10 months away?
I keep seeing this argument but people seem to think adding a second GPU is not an option to push through the performance barrier.
1080p is not going to need more than 2GB for a while. In a year or two, or even less, when newer games do cause a single 770 2GB to hit the performance wall...
This is not true. I red modded a friend's R9 290 that unlocked to R9 290X and the VRM temps were perfectly fine, even at +100mV on the core.
Corsair H50
12cm fan over the VRMs with a decent VRM heatsink and it would get mid to high 80s at 1180 and +100mV. At stock volts and clocks it was...
Did you really miss this very clear point? This was stock vs stock R9 290X Tri-X vs GTX780Ti, not an OC Tri-X at 1225 core clock.
"the Sapphire card performed better than the GTX 780 Ti in Bioshock Infinite and Crysis 3 while the GTX 780 Ti's only definitive victory came in Battlefield 3. In...
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Sapphire-Radeon-R9-290X-Tri-X-4GB-Graphics-Card-Review
R9 290 Tri-X with 1225 core clock. Even at stock it trades blows with the GTX780 Ti in this review. Bear in mind the R9 290 Tri-X is only ~5% slower clock for clock than its far more expensive...
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