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    AMD Vega (FE and RX) Benchmarks [Updated Aug 10 - RX Vega 64 Unboxing]

    AMD really need to up their game in GPUs. I really hope they have something cooking up there which they will show in future cause NVIDIA is on a road to becoming pre-Ryzen Intel of PCs dGPUs soon which would be horrible for us consumers.
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    Future of CPU prices: AMD and Intel?

    Coffee Lake 6 core pricing will have tremendous impact on CPU pricing overall.
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    GPU Prices are crazy... what's reasonable for a 1070 or 1080?

    No idea how it is in USA, but in Poland - majority of Desktop Gaming PCs are either DYI or custom made (customer chooses parts and provider assemble it for customer) by local/regional providers rather than pre-made desktop models from Dell, HP, etc Of course it is very diffrent in laptops or...
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    GPU Prices are crazy... what's reasonable for a 1070 or 1080?

    Yep. Many people might start doing those kind of decisions if situation won't be adressed soon. It is not just GPU too. Overall power-user computing price is high and fluctuating hard in last years. Just to name HDD price hike few years ago that lasted a long time, SSD, RAM price hike, even...
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    GPU Prices are crazy... what's reasonable for a 1070 or 1080?

    *facepalm* That survey does not support or deny my or your argument. You're aware of that?
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    GPU Prices are crazy... what's reasonable for a 1070 or 1080?

    Used cards (not only 970&980, but even old HD 7xxx) increased in price too, sometimes drastically. You're acting like they've stayed "pre-mining" leveles unlike new GPUs and they did not. Rather than paying more for used cards that are often without or with short warranty, many budgetcustomers...
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    GPU Prices are crazy... what's reasonable for a 1070 or 1080?

    They don't need to be patient at all. They can make any decision they want to, not waiting on anything. Either situation will resolve (due to crash of crypto and/or actions taken by GPU producers) or it will start hurting AAA PC gaming longterm. It propably already have. I agree with you that...
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    GPU Prices are crazy... what's reasonable for a 1070 or 1080?

    Maybe in USA they are. In Europe used cards spiked in price. Used GTX 970 sells for 275$ (tax inc.) or more, for bad/below average AIB versions, 250$ for blower / reference default cards, good AIB cards can sell for 300$. That is for GPU that is 3 years old. If you think that is "great...
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    GPU Prices are crazy... what's reasonable for a 1070 or 1080?

    Not PC gaming. AAA PC gaming. Indie/F2P/MMO/Strategy/E-Sport, etc PC gaming will be alright. There are already people auctioning off their gaming PCs on auction/gumtree-like websites saying that they are switching to PS4Pro. Ofc not those ones that have thousands $$$ worth new PC with...
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    GPU Prices are crazy... what's reasonable for a 1070 or 1080?

    Midranges cards - quite a lot. AAA games sales on PC depend on consumers that buy GPU like RX 470, RX 570, GTX 970, GTX 1060, etc Do you remember that GTX 970 used to be single most popular DX11 GPU on Steam? More Steam players had GTX 970 than Intel HD 4000 or 750ti back in 2016. GPU...
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    GPU Prices are crazy... what's reasonable for a 1070 or 1080?

    With GPU prices staying high for long enough, it will decimate PC AAA gaming, leaving PC as indie & F2P gaming platform on APUs / small budget cards. Mining affecting PC gaming for long time is unsustainable for AAA portion of gaming. High-end (1080, 1080ti, Titan, VEGA, etc) consumers won't be...
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    Will a stock i5 3330 bottleneck a GTX 1060/RX 480 GPU at 1080p60?

    In DX11 yes. In DX12 & Vulkan no.
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    1080ti: what will be the gap between founder's edition and msrp pricing.

    If it does gonna released in Q3/Q4 2016 then: 850-899$ for MSRP 950-999$ Founders
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    DOOM updated with Vulkan support

    7970 and 770 traded blows for last 4 years. 7970 was not subpar
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    guru3dDoom Vulkan Benchmarks

    There is no AA for 4k, so diffrent AA for diffrent resolutions seem to be on purpose.
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    guru3dDoom Vulkan Benchmarks

    Get Doom, test it and post results here :D
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    guru3dDoom Vulkan Benchmarks

    Well AMD cards since GCN and Keplers have more brute force in their hardware so it makes sense they see higher growths.
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    Someone explain the AMD Nvidia DX12 difference?

    Big architectural changes and low-lvl APIs like DX12 and Vulkan does not compute. For low-level APIs to take off you need stable architectures and smaller amount of diffrent chips because of amount of work needed to be done by game developers. More stable API & less diffrent chips = more...
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    RX 480 seem to be selling like hot cakes.

    I would say it depends on a EU country. Remember EU is not single state and completly unified market either (not to an extent US is). I would not be surprised if it sold very well i.e. in UK while at the same time sell moderately or poorly i.e. in Italy or somewhere else. So in Poland it is...
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    Official AMD Polaris Review Thread: Radeon RX 480, RX 470, and RX 460

    When 470 are coming? Any info?
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    Am I reading this right? 2500 vs newer CPUs

    Inablity (?) to increase CPU performance more than at slow pace is the reason why DX12/Vulkan are created and used even though it comes at high cost of developement in gaming studios. Because CPUs in DX11 just cannot feed newest more powerful GPUs anymore. So even though it is costly, AAA...
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    Geforce GTX 1080 is the best selling high end card in history (Fudzilla)

    "high" end
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    World’s Fastest Supercomputer Now Has Chinese Chip Technology

    http://www.netlib.org/utk/people/JackDongarra/PAPERS/sunway-report-2016.pdf This report says that "Shenwei-64 Instruction Set" is NOT related to DAC Alpha.
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    AMD Polaris Thread: Radeon RX 480, RX 470 & RX 460 launching June 29th

    There are no import duties on GPUs in EU AFAIK. So any price jumps may not be explained by that.
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    AMD Polaris Thread: Radeon RX 480, RX 470 & RX 460 launching June 29th

    Actually no. That's urban legend at least when when comparing to EU and when talking about so called normal/mainstream parts. Most things like CPU, HDD, SSD, RAM, etc is same price or very similar between NewEgg US and online shops in my country in EU. You take NewEgg price + VAT and...
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    AMD Polaris Thread: Radeon RX 480, RX 470 & RX 460 launching June 29th

    Actually more correctly it would propably have to be ~230-240 euro depending on country, since 199$ + 15-25% VAT, but the point still stand. Consumers don't give a shit about whether AMD has any say in video card companies pricing or not though. Big part of hype Polaris is riding is made on...
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    AMD Polaris Thread: Radeon RX 480, RX 470 & RX 460 launching June 29th

    "starting just below 320 euro" *facepalm* "Only" 80-100 euro above if that's 4GB and "only" 40-60 euro above if that's 8GB version of what people are expecting. Ouch. That will hurt AMD image so bad.
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    AMD Polaris Thread: Radeon RX 480, RX 470 & RX 460 launching June 29th

    Problem is that it is not just US price converted to Euro/Pound/Canadian&Australian dollars + VAT tax&few% of contracts, shipping, various costs, etc There are rumors of RX reference version going in EU for 300 Euro. Noone will complain about US price + VAT, but it is often MUCH more than that.
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    AMD Polaris Thread: Radeon RX 480, RX 470 & RX 460 launching June 29th

    Biggest danger is that manufacturers will try to price gouge 480 particularly outside of US. There are already some leaks about RX 480 being 300+ euro in EU which will be preety bad if true. Since reveal of 480 was in big part about attractive price, price gouging may create sizeable...
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    My Current GPU Dilemma

    Buy 480, it will be an uppgrade over 760. Then once Vega is out, sell 480 and get Vega.
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    Polaris 10 benchmarks...

    Yeah, but like RussianSensation said, this is not true outside of USA. Prices in rest of the world are diffrent, including second hand used market and this is result of more than just added value tax. So imho if 480 will have at least moderately good characteristics (noise, OC, availability...
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    92% of Steam users use 1080p or under, so is GTX1070+ overkill?

    True BUT remember that post F3 Bethesda games including Skyrim and Fallout 4 are Steam ONLY. While many (most?) other AAA games are not. Ubisoft games make a lot of it's sales on Uplay and i.e. The Witcher 3 had more copies registered on GoG than on Steam. Just my 2 cents to remember...
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    DOTA 2 launches Vulkan support

    Good info. I see no Intel support yet tho.
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    [Hardocp]GeForce GTX 1080: Most Bizarre Secret Paper Launch Ever

    Remember that i.e. Strix was going for ~350$ for first 3-4 months.
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    Card for a new build

    Wait until both 1070 and AMD Polaris cards will release and then decide.
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    GTX 1070 have only 1920SP!

    You want AMD to come and make NV to lower their prices so you can buy NV cards cheaper? That is exactly kind of mindset that allows NV to increase their prices.
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    [Hardocp]GeForce GTX 1080: Most Bizarre Secret Paper Launch Ever

    I would assume that 379$ will be for standard blower (non-Vapour Chamber) versions, and at best case scenario for those least known companies with cheap PCBs, etc Versions with fancy big cooling systems having 2-3 fans from ASUS, Gigabyte most here are meaning to buy etc will be 400$+
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    [Hardocp]GeForce GTX 1080: Most Bizarre Secret Paper Launch Ever

    What you're arguing about in this topic? Card tests are on the sites, marketting PR is in full swing but no cards are available on the shelf. So it was paper launch. Definition of it.
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    1070 Release Date/NDA

    1. When NDA is going to be taken off? (and thus tests/reviews will surface) 2. When it is going to be released? Lot of talk about 1070 all over the place, but I haven't saw answer to this basic questions anywhere.
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    GPU enthusiasts, how much are you actually willing to spend?

    Not as much as current trends in GPU prices are. EUV cannot come soon enough.
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