You must understand, that despite of his nickname, he's devoted Intel user with a rather strange fetish for numbers.
Fan, fanboy, stan, etc. are allowed in the tech forums as they are used derogatorily far more often than not.
Thanks for your understanding and cooperation
Mod DAPUNISHER
I don't know from where you've got those numbers but you're wrong.
Just because Intel big cores are bloated, it doesn't mean that AMD must doing the same.
Btw, Zen 3 was made on the same process as Zen 2 and was able to deliver almost 20 percent higher IPC with just minor increase of...
Over decade it's a serious exaggeration: Athlon 64 was very OK till July 2006 (Core 2), then in 2009-2011 various models of Phenom II were released and it was a decent architecture and finally in March 2017 Zen architecture was released by AMD.
Yes, his memory is quite selective but maybe it's not that surprising for Intel fan.
I have a much newer example: i7-6950X (10 cores) released by Intel in Q2 2016 for "just" 1723 dollars...
That's pretty hilarious argument, maybe you should look at their long-term debt as it was mentioned already:
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/INTC/intel/long-term-debt
I think you're wrong with your prediction: I do not expect that gap between Zen 5 and Zen 4 would be equally big as it was between Zen 4 and Zen 3 (about 23 months).
I'm expecting that Zen 5 will be released on spring next year, 18-19 months after Zen 4.
Looks like AMD wasn't far from the truth a few years ago:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-trolls-Intel-yet-again-compares-Xeon-to-dinosaurs.318260.0.html
What about possibility of higher number of cores in the future?
With 105W TDP it would be effectively impossible, at 170W there's at least a chance for 24 or maybe even 32 cores (Zen 5 + Zen 5c).
No, you're wrong again, majority of Zen 3 owners could use DDR4-3600/3800, some even DDR4-4000.
You'll see the same scenario with Zen 4 as well, despite it's AMD just first gen with DDR5 support.
Officially Zen 3 support only up to DDR-3200 because it's an JEDEC standard...
You've clearly missed that: https://www.techpowerup.com/297736/g-skill-readies-amd-expo-memory-that-applies-zen-4-ddr5-6000-sweetspot-settings
Btw, limiting access to your profile wasn't a great idea because I was still able to find this "gem" of yours:
It really warms my heart, to see so many Intel fans worried so much about AMD./s
You need to post to the topic or don't post at all.
esquared
Anandtech Forum Director
Your first sentence sounds somehow strange: Xilinx is right now part of AMD, why they should keep results separated?
Btw, Intel do not count Altera results?
To be correct 56 cores because I'm sceptical we will ever see 64 cores Sapphire Rapids.
Btw, there's space between Zen and generation number exactly the same as it was with Intel's Pentium (Pentium 4 for example).
L3 was indeed smaller for desktop/mobile APUs, however L2 was the same (512 KB per core) for all segments with Zen 3/Zen 2.
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/microarchitectures/zen_3
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/microarchitectures/zen_2
Here is a thorough testing of Radeon 680M on that Polish website: https://www.purepc.pl/amd-radeon-680m-rdna-2-test-wydajnosci-apu-rembrandt
Btw, advantage over Vega 8 is about 100 percent, sometimes even more.
I think, there's possible a different explanation: it's definitely easier for Intel optimize their drivers for synthetic benchmark like TS rather than for various/multiple games, when AMD could care less about it.
Btw, I remember well such scenario from the past: Intel IGPs performing quite...
Mikk, it seems to me, you're quite a bit frustrated by the fact, that Rembrandt will beat Tiger Lake by a big margin in terms of IGP performance, which should be not surprising if remember about switching from Vega architecture to RDNA 2 and of course higher bandwidth memory.
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