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  1. The AMD Mantle Thread

    Not disagreeing with you. At the time some people were thinking Mantle might be out sooner than Feb 2014. Rivals was the only title being advertised on their website back when I compiled my list back in December. Hence my comment that a future NFS title may be more likely than the current...
  2. The AMD Mantle Thread

    RE: Games that will support Mantle Many, Many pages ago I posted the list of the 20 games that AMD had referred to. All are accounted for, although a few of them don't have titles yet (unnamed projects). DICE/Frostbite made up the majority of that list. As for games that we will see shortly...
  3. The AMD Mantle Thread

    @ repi Welcome, and thanks for dropping in! 250 Pages and counting, and this thread OFTEN figures prominently in Google searches on the subject. Quite the discussion! --- Well, one thing is for sure, we ARE seeing increases in performance. Keep the benches coming!
  4. Flaws on Oxide

    As I shared two pages ago, Brad from Oxide/Stardock mentioned that the point of this demo is to stress test hardware. Hence all of the 'unnecessary' rendering. He also mentioned that games using the Nitrous Engine would of course be much better optimized for current hardware, and be much more...
  5. Flaws on Oxide

    I see that gloomy posted the FAQ from the Oxide forums. I didn't realize that they had added a forum to coincide with the demo release - good to know... I fired off a PM to Brad Wardell this morning when I saw this thread (I'm a member over at the Stardock forums), letting him know about this...
  6. AMD Q4 2013 result. 1.59B$ revenue, 5.3B$ for the year

    I'm sure that's why the word '200mm equivalent is used', so as to compare total wafer production on one table. No doubt the analyst used some formula to translate <=150mm and 300mm production when compiling his figures. He has a separate chart ranking 300 mm capacity, but there are no numbers...
  7. AMD Q4 2013 result. 1.59B$ revenue, 5.3B$ for the year

    So I read AMD's 2013 SEC annual report filing yesterday, here it is in .pdf format...
  8. The AMD Mantle Thread

    An AMD employee (forum handle stumped) posted this on the AMD forums yesterday (see the reply dated 01/23/2014 12:11 PM). http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=454&threadid=171097&enterthread=y The post reiterates that the Mantle driver release will be at the end of January. As Star...
  9. AMD Q4 2013 result. 1.59B$ revenue, 5.3B$ for the year

    Do keep in mind that the consoles do have CPU cores in them as well as GPU cores, so although they are grouped under the GPU division, the CPU division did contribute to the design. So while the two divisions are 'tracked' separately, at the end of the day they are still one big happy company...
  10. The Official Kaveri Review Thread (A10-7850K, etc)

    Catalyst 13.35 Beta w/Mantle end of January http://www.4gamer.net/games/022/G002212/20140115028/ (may need to translate the page) WCCF Tech's story (links to the above page) http://wccftech.com/amd-catalyst-13-...eri-coprocess/ Apparently, 13.35 will also include Dual Graphics Frame Pacing...
  11. The AMD Mantle Thread

    Catalyst 13.35 Beta w/Mantle end of January http://www.4gamer.net/games/022/G002212/20140115028/ (may need to translate the page) WCCF Tech's story (links to the above page) http://wccftech.com/amd-catalyst-13-35-beta-drive-mantle-hsa-support-scheduled-january-kaveri-coprocess/ Apparently...
  12. The Official Kaveri Review Thread (A10-7850K, etc)

    What caught my eye on the Civ V power bench is that the AMD 5xxx, 6xxx and 7xxx APUs all use less power at idle than any of the Intel CPUs... I see a similar trend on the first graph with the 5800K/6xxxK, with only 2 Intel CPUs matching/exceeding the 38w idle numbers. Dunno what's up with the...
  13. The Official Kaveri Review Thread (A10-7850K, etc)

    $179.99 at Tiger Direct. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...569&amp;CatId=7182 Also, this combo for $259 ($279 w/$20 rebate) A10-7850K, Asus A55BM-E and 4 GB of Patriot Memory. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...082&amp;CatId=7704
  14. The Official Kaveri Review Thread (A10-7850K, etc)

    On the HTPC thing, I saw this mentioned in an article posted on Techradar. They were interviewing Adam Kozak of AMD - Full article here: http://www.techradar.com/news/computing-components/processors/amd-on-kaveri-s-power-efficienty-intel-and-potential-use-in-steam-machines-1215121
  15. The AMD Mantle Thread

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  16. The Official Kaveri Review Thread (A10-7850K, etc)

    Dunno if the PC World article has been linked in this thread yet. It's not a review, but it does disclose that AMD is suggesting about a $119 Retail for the A8-7600's, and that the 7600's should ship sometime this quarter... The most amusing comment is towards the end of the article... I...
  17. The AMD Mantle Thread

    New Star Swarm footage and coverage on Engadget! http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/14/oxide-star-swarm-real-time-strategy-mantle-demo/ In the upper left corner of the video, you will see a note when the engine is using Mantle, and when it is using DirectX.
  18. The Official Kaveri Review Thread (A10-7850K, etc)

    The Hardware France guys talked AMD into letting them use an as yet unreleased driver to showcase the dual graphics, without frame pacing. Their review noted 'flashes' and such due to the lack of frame pacing and such. We may see dual graphics with the new driver release this month, but who...
  19. The Official Kaveri Review Thread (A10-7850K, etc)

    Oooooh, the Frenchies got crossfire working... No frame pacing though, that is supposed to show up in the 14.1 beta catalyst later this month if I understood correctly. It's good to see some hard crossfire numbers though, to show what might be possible...
  20. The Official Kaveri Review Thread (A10-7850K, etc)

    From this article: http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/5156/amd-a10-7850k-kaveri-review-amds-new-apu Some DDR3 Ram speed comparisons for Kaveri: http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/5156/42/amd-a10-7850k-kaveri-review-amds-new-apu-overclocking-ram They show up to a 15% improvement when going from 1866...
  21. The Kaveri Pre-Launch Thread (A10-7800 and A10-6800k @3,5 Ghz)

    Reading about the cl5 2951 MHz DDR 3 'world record' now... http://www.gskill.com/en/press/view/g-skill---world%E2%80%99s-fastest-ddr3-memory-shatters-more-memory-frequency-world-records-in-three-different-categories This memory sounded really friggin' cool, until I saw the size...
  22. The Kaveri Pre-Launch Thread (A10-7800 and A10-6800k @3,5 Ghz)

    Here are some tidbits to help pass the time if you haven't been following his thread. The reviewer in the thread is also chomping at the bit apparently... http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/hardware-clinic-2/%5Bamd%5D-cavorting-kaveri-24-7-overclocks-4535206-4.html Here's a mood relaxing...
  23. The AMD Mantle Thread

    Technically, all game companies have driver issues - they have to wait for MS/Intel/AMD/Nvidia/etc. to update them if things aren't working right. However, release issues might have been a better choice of words. I was referring to buggy releases, such as we've seen with Battlefield 4 (one...
  24. The Kaveri Pre-Launch Thread (A10-7800 and A10-6800k @3,5 Ghz)

    Yeah yeah, I suck at those abbreviations - thanks for the clarification! ;) (having to wait an extra hour would suck). BTW, Arizona is my hero for NOT buying in to the whole daylight savings time thing!
  25. The AMD Mantle Thread

    It's the dual graphics support in the new Catalyst patch that has me intrigued. The asymmetric APU thing (iGPU + dGPU) was mentioned in one of the Mantle slides during APU 13 as I remember. Hopefully they can get that to work adequately to see some decent performance gains. From what I've...
  26. The Kaveri Pre-Launch Thread (A10-7800 and A10-6800k @3,5 Ghz)

    I can do that too... http://www.portatech.com/products/product.cshtml?id=74784&o=74780 A10-5800K for $352, w/4 GB Memory and 500 GB HDD. 4742 Passmark score. BTW, A10-6800K adds $48 to the price, w/5214 Passmark score. Same place, i3-3420. $360...
  27. The Kaveri Pre-Launch Thread (A10-7800 and A10-6800k @3,5 Ghz)

    I just want to point out that as I type this, it's 3:25 PM,Tuesday January 14th at Christmas Island, Kiribati... The poor Christmas Island folks have been wondering all day where the Kaveri benches are... they did say Tuesday, after all! :biggrin: 8 AM EDT, huh? Less than 12 hours to go! :whiste:
  28. The Kaveri Pre-Launch Thread (A10-7800 and A10-6800k @3,5 Ghz)

    My point in bringing this up is that if the i3 system and the Kaveri system are similarly priced, without a iGPU, well then if you can add the dGPU to one you'll be adding it to the other as well, at the same price point. Hence why my A10-7850K versus i3 comparison becomes relevant. As I noted...
  29. The Kaveri Pre-Launch Thread (A10-7800 and A10-6800k @3,5 Ghz)

    The AMD setup you linked is using more expensive memory. $20 more to be exact. DDR3 1600 isn't the same as DDR3 2666... also the Intel setup has a $15 Mail in rebate on the Asus Radeon 7750, so you won't see that $15 immediately... Finally, it's an A10 6800, not a Kaveri... So it's not quite...
  30. The Kaveri Pre-Launch Thread (A10-7800 and A10-6800k @3,5 Ghz)

    I like comparing apples to apples as much as possible. With that in mind... Cyberpower PC website's configurator http://www.cyberpowerpc.com. Intel i3-4130 3.4 MHz 3 MB smart cache. Cheapest mid tower case (RaidMax Viper), stock Intel cooler, cheapest MSI mATX MOBO (MSI B85M-P33 mATX w/...
  31. The AMD Mantle Thread

    I knew I forgot one. I did mention them quite a few pages back, but it wasn't coming back to me. Thanks! :thumbsup:
  32. The Kaveri Pre-Launch Thread (A10-7800 and A10-6800k @3,5 Ghz)

    I'm still hoping to see some DDR3 2400+ CL9/10 Benches at some point, once the NDA's are lifted. Looks like djohny24's DDR3 timings are 2544 @ 11-13-13-32. I'm quite happy to see him sharing his benches though!
  33. The Kaveri Pre-Launch Thread (A10-7800 and A10-6800k @3,5 Ghz)

    This thread might be easier to read... http://www.overclock.net/t/1404574/steamroller/2770 From Post 2767 in that thread (page 277) From Post 2770 in that thread (page 277) He shared some Open CL benches on page 278. Looks like the same as above.
  34. The Kaveri Pre-Launch Thread (A10-7800 and A10-6800k @3,5 Ghz)

    R.E. this link: http://foro.noticias3d.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=421821 The one thing we all need to keep in mind with his 4.55 GHz overclock is that he's not using the integrated GPU (reviewer was having driver issues, so he used a dGPU). So we don't really know how much the GPU is able...
  35. The AMD Mantle Thread

    Electronic Arts has been around for a LOOOOOONG time. As has Square Enix. Both provide a number of AAA titles. BTW, Stardock was honored with at least one Game Of The Year award for Galactic Civilizations II, as well as several Editor's Choice Awards (including PC Gamer), a game that is...
  36. The Kaveri Pre-Launch Thread (A10-7800 and A10-6800k @3,5 Ghz)

    Another link to some Kaveri related benches. Focusing on the new Plextor SSD though, not the Kaveri specifically. http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/storage-clinic-119/%5Bplextor%5D-fast-enuff-ya-its-plextor-afterall-4536563.html
  37. The AMD Mantle Thread

    Off of the top of my head... Cloud Imperium Games/Roberts Space Industries (Star Citizen) Stardock (New Star Control Game, some other game, Nitrous/Oxide) Mohawk Games ('Mars' Game, Nitrous/Oxide) Square Enix/Eidos-Montreal(Thief) Electronic Arts (Battlefield 4, etc., DICE/Frostbite) Four game...
  38. Intel CES 2014...what the?

    As I remember, in the early RDRAM days, the biggest problem with RDRAM was the expense. SDRAM was significantly cheaper by comparison, so a lot of people kept going the SDRAM route. If RDRAM had been implemented more cheaply, it might have been another story. Plus the other reasons mentioned...
  39. PC Sales down 7% in 4Q

    Of course, the other reason PC sales are down is because systems aren't really all that much more powerful than say 3-4 years ago. At least not for the casual user that is looking for word processing, accounting, internet browsing and the occasional game. The days of huge breakthroughs in...
  40. The AMD Mantle Thread

    He's actually partially right here. While Mantle has been shown working on both Intel and AMD CPUs, currently it only works on systems with AMD GPUs. So an Intel APU on it's own won't be able to run Mantle currently; it'll need a suitable AMD dGPU along with the aforementioned Intel CPU/APU to...
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