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  1. amd CCC 14.4 beta's gone live

    I don't think so, or at least they still have issues with the SATA drivers and sleep. I have 2 hard drives, and the 2nd drive doesn't wake up from sleep. I just tested this out with the 14.4 drivers, and the problem is still there. However, it is easy enough to do a custom install, skip the SATA...
  2. Custom uninstall ati driver not chipset driver???????

    Based on my very recent experience, it's the driver install that gets you. I followed the recommended steps, uninstalled everything and installed the complete driver package. Beta driver. End result, after going to sleep, my second hard drive would not wake up. A system restore resolved the...
  3. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    What about us that don't run enthusiast hardware? What are we, chopped liver?
  4. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    Some frames, from a super driver? But, I would take it, especially for free. Although, "some frames from Mantle, at no cost" was picked apart fairly harshly. Nothing is for free, only for GCN cards, and only a few frames is not worth the effort. But again, this is good for NVidia card owners...
  5. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    From the article: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-Talks-DX12-DX11-Efficiency-Improvements "This graphic, provided by NVIDIA of course, shows 9 specific Direct3D 11 functions. The metric of efficiency in this case is rated by the speed increase between the AMD R9 290X in red...
  6. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    So I read the PCper article, and those are some pretty impressive numbers for DX11 coming from NVidia. I would say "parity with Mantle" is an understatement. It looks to me like NVidia users are going to get a huge boost in a few weeks with that next driver release. I am a bit skeptical since...
  7. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    I think you are reaching when call suggest anyone here is a "Mantle evangelist" since I haven't read any comments that say "you should use mantle, or buy AMD cards." Some people like it, some people think it is has made an impact, and some people look forward to more games. Some people think it...
  8. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    Do we know what CPU was used in the Forza demo? Since Forza 5 already runs on a "weak" AMD APU, should we be impressed that it runs on a GeForce Titan Black. And what if it was an i7?
  9. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    Microsoft will need to do some backpedaling for that to happen.
  10. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    I agree with most things you say, except this statement. Microsoft can't be expected to support XP forever. XP users have always been vulnerable to malware, so what difference does it make if Microsoft drops so called support. Win8 is a very good OS. It is faster and more stable than any of its...
  11. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    The king is dead, long live the king? While Microsoft was announcing DX12, Dice is talking about the 2nd wave of Frostbite 3 games using mantle, CryEngine announces mantle support, and AMD announces Sniper Elite III will use mantle. We have 2 years of mantle goodness before we get a glimpse...
  12. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    Like anything... I suppose it depends. His demo may have been small, and he knows the code pretty well, but I think Johan quoted a similar amount of time, and I doubt the Frostbite 3 engine is trivial.
  13. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    Oxide's Dan Baker in a Maximumpc interview: Baker: APIs come and go. Once you support more than one, it's pretty easy to support a dozen–assuming there is parity in the hardware features, and assuming you don't have to rewrite your shaders in an entirely different language. If you release a...
  14. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    Except Microsoft themselves use the term "closer to the metal."
  15. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    That slide also says "forward compatible" I don't think AMD is able to support their own pre-GCN cards.
  16. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    I found this statement posted by someone. Not sure of it's veracity, but perhaps... "Mantle is providing a virtual GPU that is a direct 1:1 mapping to hardware functions. It might not be quite as fast, but it should be pretty close because it wouldn't need make any more mode switches than...
  17. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    I'm shocked. I would be interested to see that. I will hunt.
  18. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    Correct. I don't believe mantle could ever work on current NVidia cards. Same for current Intel cards. I thought that was the general consensus.
  19. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    I don't believe this is true.
  20. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    Let me ask it this way. Do you think mantle could ever work on NVidia cards bought in 2013? Do you think DX12 will work on NVidia cards bought in 2013?
  21. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    And that they could have made it much better long before now.
  22. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    Yes, funny how this works. Since I bought GCN card, I find myself watching and waiting for mantle supported games. I have BF4 and Thief, and will be watching for Sniper Elite III and any new Cryengine games(that makes use of Mantle).
  23. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    Right, and I understand that. AMD has made it clear that mantle is not proprietary. But it's not magic. NVidia would need to make changes going forward to add this lower level support. Microsoft seems to be offering a lower level API with no changes to the GPU. That doesn't quite make sense.
  24. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    Ok, so we're arguing semantics. Mantle doesn't need GCN, but GCN has what mantle needs. Still, mantle won't work on current Nvidia cards. How does DX12 get "closer to the metal" on any and all cards?
  25. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    I wonder how they get "closer to the metal than ever before," and yet stay GPU agnostic? Edit: Since AMD needs GCN tech to get closer.
  26. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    But when and on what OS version(s) leaves enough speculative area to hide a Boeing 777.
  27. AMD @ GDC: Partnership with MS next-generation graphics.

    Logic doesn't play into that type of thinking. When you argue an untenable position, you start making sh*t up.
  28. Fix Mantle stuttering in BF4

    Dice does know about it, or at least someone tweeted Repi about it a while back. There is a thread about this on battlelog Ivan Marijanović ‏@191x7 Mar 8 @Vincent0K @repi It seems that for some players Origin causes CPU Spikes...
  29. An AMD Mantle users Testing BF4.

    A little too early for naysayers to gloat .
  30. An AMD Mantle users Testing BF4.

    According to a hothardware.com writer at the time of APU13: "I was told that Crytek was extremely careful when it came to adopting new standards because those technologies had to fit within the company's workflow without making it too difficult to support multiple vendors or relying on...
  31. An AMD Mantle users Testing BF4.

    :\ I think some strive for the best performance at the highest possible settings, but most are just looking for the best performance. Some of the former don't even play the game, or don't spend the amount of time as many serious gamers. I am willing to sacrifice some eye candy to achieve smooth...
  32. An AMD Mantle users Testing BF4.

    Oops you are right, that was fixed in a BF4 patch. But it's still old.
  33. An AMD Mantle users Testing BF4.

    These comparisons were done with 14.1, which had known issues.
  34. An AMD Mantle users Testing BF4.

    Are you suggesting that mantle leaves things out at similar settings, or that the tests were not done with the exact same settings?
  35. An AMD Mantle users Testing BF4.

    I believe the mantle patch for Thief comes out tomorrow(March 18.)
  36. [H] Thief 4 Performance Preview - No Mantle for now

    And what do you think of the game itself? I am actually enjoying it so far. The melee is useless, but maybe that's intentional.
  37. Cat 14.2 B (Mantle update)

    I think Dice fixed the memory leak, or at least "a" memory leak. I am going to go out on a limb and say maybe this is a limitation/oversight/issue/problem with Mantle. I am a proponent of Mantle(just to make clear where I am coming from,) but this almost sounds as if they need a hybrid method of...
  38. [H] Thief 4 Performance Preview - No Mantle for now

    And that's the way it should be. I just don't see any reason to complain because it runs well on low priced cards.
  39. Cat 14.2 B (Mantle update)

    Has AMD stated that the HD 7000 cards are now fully optimized for Mantle? I thought that the R9 280 & HD 7000 cards were still under-supported.
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