For real. At least the AMD numbers are playable. Looks more like dual-cores get hammered.
They must have pipelined the logic across 3+ threads, and then blocked on communication between them. That would mostly explain why the i3 benchmarks weren't shit as well.
Profanity is not allowed in...
Router/NAS
Debian Wheezy
Athlon 5350
8GB DDR3-1866 ECC
HTPC
Ubuntu 14.04
Intel G3258
AMD Radeon HD 6850
8GB DDR3-1866
Work Desktop (Linux)
Ubuntu 14.04
Intel E4600
2GB DDR2-800
Also have a Windows machine at work (Intel quad) and at home (AMD octo). I asked the company for another 2GB of ram...
Oops, 30. "I play games at 30-60 fps without motion blur...."
20 fps is noticable.
I am certain about my imperception of 30 vs 60 fps. Elite: Dangerous has a configuration mechanism that allows you to limit the framerate to 30, 45, or 60 fps. I cannot distinguish between them.
And 90 years later, we are used to it. I play games at 30-60 fps without motion blur, and I never notice the framerate unless I am specifically looking for it. The game is still fun, so who cares.
No, the argument is like this:
Many of you probably haven't used a modern FX. I'm sure much of...
So this hypothetical fool spent money on a broken port and spent more money on an overpriced processor. "Fool me once" comes to mind.
Yes. I can also look up prices and calculate price/performance ratios. I know it probably sounds like witchcraft, but anyone can do it if they give it the...
The fastest i3 (4370) is 3.8 Ghz. Here is G3258 at 3.8Ghz on a B85 motherboard, with a stock cooler:
The G3258 costs $60, and the i3-4370 costs $150. If anyone really thinks Hyperthreading and an extra 1MB of cache is worth $90, well, a fool is born every day.
Intel i3 is always a bad deal. Check the price of Intel G3258.
But yes, 860K is viable. You'd need to move to a Intel CPU to make the most of a >$150 video card. But paired with a $120 video card, it offers little disadvantage compared to any Intel processor when gaming.
OBS already has NVENC support, and VCE support is available in its own branch. For streaming games, QuickSync is hardly an advantage over FX, as you are practically required to have a supported video card anyhow.
As long as FX is cheap and good enough, the Intel fan-flaming is going to fall on...
I've played both those games on an fx 6300 and a 4670k.
The framerate for tanks is substantially higher on the intel part, but I can't actually see the difference. min fps will be in the low 40s for amd, or mid-50s for intel.
Elite runs great on multicore systems. No matter what new...
Home servers cost power. A typical PC idles at ~70 watts, and typical laptop idles at maybe ~20 watts. On my last bill, I payed $0.101/kWh. So the marginal cost of operation for an old PC vs a old laptop may be:
PC cost: (0.07 kW) * (24 hr/d * 365 d/yr) * ($0.101 / kWh) = $62/yr
Laptop cost...
You could do a small upgrade and a big overclock that would make full use of the good VRM design on that motherboard.
I have recently written about my experience with FX-8310, but apparently that part will no longer be available online. You could/should look at FX-8300, which appears to be a...
I meant the line drivers, so Jovec and I are in agreement.
Per soccerballtux, I fiddled with the boost states in bios settings. I settled on 3.3/4.0/4.3 for stock/boost2/boost1 and left voltage config on auto. The cpu is still hanging out near 95w for 2-6 thread workloads with those settings...
I am sure. I did several repetitions toggling Turbo core on and off, making sure Cool 'n Quiet was still enabled, because I was stunned at the behavior. Turbo Core was the only factor that caused the chip to throttle down to 2.9 Ghz.
I forgot to mention this in the writeup - with turbo...
That has nothing to do with the AMD processor.
Before I started testing, I locked all three cooling fans to 100% to reduce transients during testing. Switching them back to auto drops the idle back down to 125w. But the biggest idle power draw comes from the R9 280X graphics card, which is...
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== Further Investigation ==
The numbers above did not meet my expectations, so I fired up CPU-Z and watched the AMD's Turbo Core tech while it boosted to turbo speeds. I did not take quantitative measurements, but several trends quickly emerged.
1. With just 1 thread scheduled...
== Background ==
This part is intended as a modest CPU upgrade to an existing system with the following components:
FX-6300
MSI 970A-G43
16GB DDR3-1833
The main use of the system is software development and video encoding. By moving from the FX-6300 to the FX-8310, I believed that I...
IIRC, AMD's 32nm temp sensors are only accurate to +/- 20C, and the error seems to be always cooler than reality. That's why the oft-quoted max safe temp is only 70C, even though the process breakdown temp is ~95C.
Side note, the reported package power is incredibly sad. The difference...
It may even beat the 8370E with it's 3.3Ghz/4.3Ghz clocks and $190 price tag. It boggles the mind.
I ordered an 8310 to compare (both power and performance) against the 95W FX-6300 that I already have. After the 6300 gets sold on ebay, I figure the upgrade will only cost ~$25 or so.
On top of terrible components, it is an HP. It is junk. Return it.
You could also propose a new-to-him alternative. Pick out a Dell or a Lenovo refurb, add a big monitor or small TV (because advanced age sometimes means worse eyesight) and pitch that. Those old commercial systems are...
The graphics component of any APU is disabled when you install any discrete GPU.
There are exceptions to the statement above, but they are rare and gimmicky.
Yes. Running BF4 on with a G3258@3.8Ghz with ultra graphics at 1080p gets a comfortable ~50fps average when paired with a R9 280X. That is the same performance I get on my FX-6300 (stock) rig with the same card. I fired it up just now to makes sure my memory wasn't failing me.
My G3258 is...
G3258 is the clear winner in the $75 group. Unlocked Haswell and cheap B85 boards with tons of features. You can OC and use it with high end GPUs in the majority of todays AAA games.
:cool:
In seriousness though, a single Haswell core is so close to a steamroller module in multi-threaded...
FTFY
I got curious... here's an ad-hoc benchmark using Handbrake.
Media Source: MKV video+audio file (27 seconds) I had sitting around.
Processor: AMD FX-6300 @ 3.5Ghz (3 modules, 6 threads)
Methodology:
1) Disable Turbo in Bios. Boot into Windows 7.
2) Start Handbrake and Task Manager...
Confirming that ~10% more performance for ~100% more dollars is a big difference. That is $50 you could spend on more ram, an SSD, or a couple cases of beer, any of which will make you happier than hyperthreading on a dual-core processor.
Unless they were somehow the same price, I would take a G3258 over a i3 4150 for every application.
The $125 pick should probably be a FX-6300 and a Hyper 212 cooler for overclocking.
Are you sure you need the transcoding capabilities?
My solution to something similar to your problem is a headless Athlon 5350 (ECC support!) box running mediatomb and handbrake-cli. I pre-transcode the video to an MKV+h.264 format that everything in the house can use, then drop it in a folder...
Upper mid-range is a Intel 4690K and a GTX770 or a R9 280X. System cost is around $1200.
Lower mid-range is a FX-6300 and a Radeon R7 265 or GTX 750Ti. System cost is around $700.
Unfortunately, the performance gain in the middle of that gap is pretty non-linear. The better video card is...
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