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What does intel do with all its partially functional cpus?

Because they already have 2 core dies for all the 2 core SKU products :cool:
- elemein
- Post #6
- May 3, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Fudzilla: New AMD Zen APU boasts up to 16 cores (plus Greenland GPU with HBM)

It should be better architecturally, but it may clock lower meaning it may not show up the old SKUs but have higher potential. At least, those are my very uneducated predictions. Unless TSMCs/Samsungs process are very very good and the frequency scaling issue Intel is having will somehow...
- elemein
- Post #590
- Apr 29, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Fudzilla: New AMD Zen APU boasts up to 16 cores (plus Greenland GPU with HBM)

Now I may be misinterpreting this but... Do I spy with my little eye... an octo-core SKU without an iGP?!
- elemein
- Post #583
- Apr 29, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Intel Skylake complete lineup - Coming in August - Pictures of CPU

Now if only we could get a whole architecture detail a la David Kanter style. Unless anyone knows of something similar already out? I'm also curious of where people are getting the 15% figure.
- elemein
- Post #9
- Apr 23, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Im switching over to the light side......

Wouldnt have so much faith. It was a very different situation back in the day.
- elemein
- Post #8
- Feb 16, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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What do you think Nvidia is gonna show next month?

Chinese VR-Zone thinks its another one of those nVidia gaming tabs. Would make a lot of sense.
- elemein
- Post #6
- Feb 12, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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I'm confused about Intels 14nm process lead

Nope, unfortunately no Electric Engineering here :\
- elemein
- Post #126
- Feb 11, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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I'm confused about Intels 14nm process lead

Oh wow I have a lot of replies. I'll do the best I can to reply :) I havent read the first link, Ill take a look. I have seen the second link, a couple times and it didn't help me as much as I wished it did :/ Ill take a peek at the third link later as well :) This would be very good...
- elemein
- Post #124
- Feb 11, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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I'm confused about Intels 14nm process lead

Well that stuff I get. Boolean algebra is stuff I've done in a couple of my computer math courses :D But... How does this: http://orion.pt.tu-clausthal.de/atp/projects/images/mosfet2.png Become this: http://cdn2.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Intel-14nm-Interconnect-Path.jpg And...
- elemein
- Post #102
- Feb 10, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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I'm confused about Intels 14nm process lead

On a semi-related topic; Im confused about transistors as a whole. Like I get what a MOSFET transistor looks like, I know FinFET's, planar, SOI, etc. etc. al that stuff. I get how a single transistor works, but I dont understand how several transistors work together and stuff outside of that...
- elemein
- Post #100
- Feb 10, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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[Sweclockers] AMD Zen coming in Q3 2016, will be on 14 nm

Why would an interposer be used instead of a point-to-point interconnect? Seems like an interposer would just waste more silicon and insulate heat. I can understand as a foundation for several chips, but if there isn't many chips why not just point to point?
- elemein
- Post #163
- Jan 30, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Carrizo Pre-release thread

I wouldnt say either. Refreshes don't always play well with existing naming schemes... The Vishera refresh pretty much gutted any existing naming schemes, adding "E"'s everywhere and weirdly positioned SKUs.
- elemein
- Post #630
- Jan 30, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Skylake/Broadwell Roadmap Update @Vr-zone

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8355/intel-broadwell-architecture-preview/2 Yes, for Broadwell, we get the usual 5% increase with some small internal changes to already existing components in the arch, as well as some new (niche) ISA extensions. It's a nice tick.
- elemein
- Post #61
- Jan 30, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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[Sweclockers] AMD Zen coming in Q3 2016, will be on 14 nm

Hey there! So er... Noob question but, what is an interposer? Googling doesnt seem to be turning up the greatest results :o
- elemein
- Post #157
- Jan 30, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Newbie Question

Both the CPUs you listed are 64-bit. But no, you cannot do this. The sockets are not compatible.
- elemein
- Post #2
- Jan 29, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Skylake/Broadwell Roadmap Update @Vr-zone

That also doesnt explain why, but it does help a bit more in understanding why they made the move in the first place :/ Edit: Oh nvm didnt see your edit. Makes sense :)
- elemein
- Post #32
- Jan 29, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Skylake/Broadwell Roadmap Update @Vr-zone

Thanks though the link doesnt exactly explain why the subtraction of an FIVR makes OCing better, just that it does. Though I'll trust it :)
- elemein
- Post #28
- Jan 29, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Skylake/Broadwell Roadmap Update @Vr-zone

I never really understood how the FIVR effected the performance characteristics of the CPU. Got any source I could learn more from? :)
- elemein
- Post #26
- Jan 29, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Skylake/Broadwell Roadmap Update @Vr-zone

Meaning the extra TDP is to make up for the lack of FIVR? Thats too bad.
- elemein
- Post #23
- Jan 29, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Skylake/Broadwell Roadmap Update @Vr-zone

I thought roadmaps were pretty much subject to change at the drop of a hat?
- elemein
- Post #20
- Jan 29, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Ways to reduce TDP of a non-lower power Core i5 CPU ?

AFAIK, throttle stop is to increase performance, not decrease power usage. Try undervolting and matching the config with low voltage and frequency RAM. SSDs will help too if youre wanting a cool, quiet and power efficient setup.
- elemein
- Post #2
- Jan 29, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Skylake/Broadwell Roadmap Update @Vr-zone

I know Haswell-K is below that :p I'm asking because Im not sure if ts either 95W is needed to keep frequency similar to status quo with the "unexpectedly power hungry at high freq" design , or the 95W is because they are jumping some frequency up from the norm.
- elemein
- Post #17
- Jan 29, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Skylake/Broadwell Roadmap Update @Vr-zone

Interesting link, but this brings up the question; If Broadwell-K is pinned for low frequencies because at high frequency it draws an unexpectedly high amount of voltage, does that mean the 95W Skylake-K CPUs have such a TDP just because the process makes it necessary while it may have similar...
- elemein
- Post #13
- Jan 29, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Q414 results

Wow now this is some real hyperbolic extremism. I said ST performance is more usable for most consumer application. I NEVER said "you only need ONE core and anything more is snake oil!" Obviously you need more than one core in today's day. You just dont need 8 of em. As Intel has found...
- elemein
- Post #509
- Jan 29, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Q414 results

This is all true. Can't deny it. Though if it werent for performance, TDP or power consumption, what is the reason AMD is in such a bind they are in now? Is it down to marketing? Intel getting more design wins? Simply market share multiplying?
- elemein
- Post #488
- Jan 28, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Q414 results

Weird how I go shopping for an hour and come back to intelligent replies. It's really refreshing. I was on another "tech" forum previous to this and it was nowhere near as civilized or intelligible. This is great. Love it. Anyways, as for applications that only make use of ST performance and...
- elemein
- Post #487
- Jan 28, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Q414 results

Games, mostly. I agree, most consumer's things can be handled by an Atom with a good RAM config. But games are played by a lot of people, and that relies on ST mainly.
- elemein
- Post #481
- Jan 28, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Q414 results

You know the extra 266 Mhz on the RAM wouldnt have made that big of a difference. Also, can I ask how these benchmarks are averaged? A lot (like... 9/12 of these) of these programs are programs most people wouldnt use. Though sure, let's special plead and take the average of the supplied...
- elemein
- Post #478
- Jan 28, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Q414 results

"We re talking of the definition of high perf and you said that the metric is single thread performance, but now seems that you re protesting that core count, TDP and so on have also a say in this definition...." Quote me where I said that ST was the performance metric. Actually, quote me on...
- elemein
- Post #476
- Jan 28, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Q414 results

"You are in full straw mode here, did i said that having a better process is cheating.? " It's not strawmaning. You're making some hypothetical situation that isn't real, making it seem like Intel having their process advantage is somehow less legitimate than their arch. Intel has the process...
- elemein
- Post #473
- Jan 28, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Q414 results

"Intel s better perf/watt is related to process and about nothing else," I hate when people say this. People are acting as if Intel using their process advantage which their engineers worked tirelessly over is some cheap, cheating, conniving and illegal trick that should be looked down upon...
- elemein
- Post #469
- Jan 28, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Q414 results

:| Obviously Bulldozer was high frequency, but it certainly wasn't high performance in the grand scheme of things. My opinion in that is concrete. Also, yes, other designers, tool makers and foundries have come a long way, but it's more or less undisputed that Intel is ahead. In that, my...
- elemein
- Post #464
- Jan 28, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Q414 results

Hrm. That does skew my expectations now. I still don't see it going at Intel's offerings off a pure resource deficiency viewpoint, but maybe it is aimed to perform higher than what I previously expected. Thanks. Though AMD's definition of "high performance" and "high frequency" have been a...
- elemein
- Post #461
- Jan 28, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Q414 results

You mean this? http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sweclockers.com%2Fnyhet%2F19954-amd-zen-forst-ut-i-summit-ridge-for-14-nanometer Because... I don't see where it mentions anything about it being a high-performance arch... Could be blind though.
- elemein
- Post #456
- Jan 28, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Q414 results

Can I get a source to this and the context?
- elemein
- Post #453
- Jan 28, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Q414 results

IIRC, the real basis for Intel's arch is the PIII. If you compare a P3 block diagram to a Haswell diagram, you see some spooky similarities. It's even older! Though architecture age doesn't really have anything to do with what I'm saying. Do correct me if it's somehow relevant though. Also, I'm...
- elemein
- Post #447
- Jan 28, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Carrizo Pre-release thread

Re-checked Agners guide and the discrepancy you list would be due to the more versatile memory pipeline Jag has. That'd definitely help both SIMD and Int performance. Apologies, been awhile since I checked :)
- elemein
- Post #624
- Jan 28, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Q414 results

You're missing what I'm saying. Im saying Zen won't perform as well as Excavator since it's not aimed at even getting close to Intel's flagship. Though it won't scale as low as Jaguar did when it was designed to take the Temash and Mullin SKUs into account. When I say "jack of all trades...
- elemein
- Post #444
- Jan 28, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Q414 results

It seems we dont disagree quite as much as you think :p Here is my expectation and why; I believe Zen will be a "medium" core, between Jag and the BD family. I believe it'll scale quite well, but it'll be more aimed at the "wider" audience of consumer computing; ie. Not high end desktop...
- elemein
- Post #442
- Jan 28, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Q414 results

Replying cause I was the last one who mentioned the phrase :p ignore if not aimed at me. To me, my definition would be along the lines of something like an i7-4790K or 5960X and some big flagship-ish GPU.
- elemein
- Post #440
- Jan 28, 2015
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking

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