It's all just rumors, but Re the leaked clocks. It does seem odd that LNC would cop a Frequency regression , yet Skymont would score a frequency boost.
Yes it's further down the VF curve which could explain it somewhat, but it's also a much much wider higher IPC core than its predecessor its...
Wow overwhelming. My personal take aways
(for Lion cove)
- Intel finally ditched the unified scheduler
-Finally moved to process agnostic/portable phy floorplan.
Considering these significant changes , Lion cove isn't bad.. I guess they've been honing this for a while now with the Mont's so...
Did he not even talk about Arrow lake or did I miss something ? (other than mentioning it before going on about Panther lake)
Guess I'll hit up the slides
Well she did say incredibly energy efficient or something. But not specifics, so perhaps it's not exciting enough for numbers. I don't recall if they've ever really gone into specifics for the desktop launch, I'd expect that for mobile announcement / press releases
thanks for that, I should say I meant the Lion Cove uArch specificly ,
IF this is a full architecture overhaul why so little information? Not expecting we'd have a full uAarchitecture detials , but is there no rumors or info to gather from the usual sources, or deeper Speculation?
I think you need to look back at Excavator's front end , including op cache , before being too surprised at Zen's current IPC despite only 4 decoders. Pushing any more IPC out of it , i.e Zen 5, without going wider? , yeah that will start to get interesting.
It's fortunate for Intel AMD don't offer higher core counts on their APU's.. Even with a significant core and thread count (total - combined P and E cores) , they're STILL this far behind perf/watt. 12 core Phoenix parts (for arguments sake) would absolutely demolish MTL . Similar story for...
It's not like AMD haven't known performance and clocks for some time. There is a chance of some minor shipping clock adjustments after nailing down names, but nothing drastic.
They don't seem to be following that nomenclature 'rule' anyway - Both SKU's are 7900's , yet there aren't two levels...
When AMD price too close to Nvidia based on their Raster performance , everyone screams they need to lower prices because RT and feature set can't compete... 'they'll never gain market share' , 'Distrupt the market' , etc etc.
AMD come in undercutting Nvidia significantly:
"Something's...
Sorry. Calling Alderlake a Core 2 moment would be an insult to Core 2.
C2D brought the hurt in all directions. IPC, clockspeed, power efficiency , area efficiency, with very very little caveats , bar the use of FSB .
Realistically, looking at what they've put forward , it's an RTX2070- 2070S . Right down to the 200+w TDP (215) , die size balllpark and power requirements, bus width, the lot. It Even looks like an FE!
If it was joining the battle between 5700XT and 2070/S back in mid 2019 ...
Looks like the 12900k is running 4800 DDR5 vs 5600 for 13900k . so the differences in gaming at least might be slightly lesser if they were apples to apples
If you don't mind buying through lenovo, availability seems quite reasonable currently. My 6850U X13 took about 7 days to ship . There were more expensive pre built's available to ship same day. This is AU store though.
Not sure I understand the 3050L comparisons either. It wouldn't matter...
I don't really see the 8-10% IPC uplift as disappointing at all. They've had a good run extracting well above avg IPC and frequency uplifts from zen 2 to 3, at a very impressive rate, and it seems the later part hasn't hit a wall at all. , all without drastic changes to the core (which has no...
If blender benchmark was measured in pixels per second or something , there wouldn't be so many confused people.
lets assume the blender renderd imaged had 1000 pixels (obviously it's more but does'nt matter ,you'll get the same answer regardless )
207s to render 1000 pixels = 1000 /...
Hangon. if i recall correctly, even the most enthusiastic members here keenly awaiting ADL were FAR more interested in the Gracemont cores, some even suggesting Intel should scrap the GC core linage and base everything on Gracemont, and its suposed amazing perf/watt area/watt and potential...
Because they don't want to give out exact numbers , and even if they did ,they likely don't have top sku clocks 100% locked in yet.
I dont recall getting even this much performance info for Zen 3 , this early on. Was very little mentioned until the full announcment in october afaik.
There are no hard and fast rules like that. IPC vs frequency is a balancing act with many factors. In the case of these zen cores, it's Performance target range, Process node characteristics , use of SMT and the relationship that creates between peak ST and MT througput.
Increasing frequency...
it may.. hopefully. Problem is it's not my system, and I don't want to give to them liek this if I can help it .. it's quite irritating!
Thanks, will try that!
HDMI and DP. Happens almost every time.
Other person is running 10 series Intel. So it's not tied to this chipset or pcie4 by the looks.. possibly only Intel though.
He reckons vanilla inbuilt windows drivers seemed to fix but not for me!
Reboots when monitor sleeps. Have found one other person with the issue on AMD forum . Does not occur on an older Am4 system I tried, only Intel, and doesn't occur with a 6800 in the system
Except it's PCIe bandwidth at 3.0 , not clockspeed / core rasteration performance that causes it to be anywhere near a 1050ti in certain circumstances.
You don't have to convince me it's faster. I'm only saying using different cTDP's and claiming twice is fast is a bit scummy that's all. It's just marketing.
Those aren't footnotes for the presentation though, just the statements on that product webpage , none of which mention Intel. So why would there be a system config for it?
The 25w vs 28w is scummy - just trying to hit that nice 2x figure for the wow factor.
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