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    Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread

    I wish the Cannonlake wafer image was higher res... looks like Intel are hiding the die layout according to the article. Methinks someone is trying to hide potential Cannonlake core counts.
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    Who's buying a 6 core Coffee Lake CPU? (Poll Inside)

    Cores. No one wants to upgrade for the first core bump in the mainstream in a decade only to have their purchase eclipsed by the next core bump a mere year later.
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    A History of Nvidia GeForce

    Agreed wholeheartedly. AMD's purchase of ATi was a huge mistake and not just for ATi's well-being either. ATi were once Nvidia's fierce and respectable competitor. Now they've simply been sucked dry by the figurative leech that is AMD's historically-troubled CPU division and history of failed...
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    Who's buying a 6 core Coffee Lake CPU? (Poll Inside)

    I changed my vote from yes to no in light of this morning's news regarding the octocore i7 and Z390. Also, while I certainly wouldn't bother with Ryzen with its current per-core performance limitations and am looking forward to mainstream higher core counts with more Kaby Lake levels of per-core...
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    NVIDIA Volta Rumor Thread

    Maxwell/Pascal were holding up (or rather, dominating) impressively enough, but Volta looks to be even further beyond and appears to be very impressive indeed. Nvidia's improvements have been nothing short of amazing these past few years. I don't take any pleasure in it, but honestly, RTG seem...
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    A History of Nvidia GeForce

    The bolded never happened. This is what actually happened: Custom AIB 980 Tis at stock beating the Fury X by ~23% or so and having 50% more VRAM to boot while costing only like 5% more (if even that). Stock 980 Tis or basic AIB designs at the same price as the Fury X... with like 25-30%...
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    Geforce GTX 1080 Ti now official - Faster than Titan X ($699)

    Yes. AMD being in an even worse position relative to Nvidia this year relative to the past wouldn't be a new thing at all. They've been lagging further and further behind since around the time Maxwell first launched. Arguably even earlier than that when you consider how long GK110 had free reign...
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    Geforce GTX 1080 Ti now official - Faster than Titan X ($699)

    I don't claim it's under the 1080, just around (certainly think it's closer to the 1080 than either the 1070 or 1080 Ti, AIB to AIB). +/- 5 to 10% in either direction is effectively the same level and there hasn't been a direct comparison yet, just ballparks in the same area. So I wouldn't try...
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    Geforce GTX 1080 Ti now official - Faster than Titan X ($699)

    Tidbits? Sure. Numberless demo? Okay. Even a demo with an FPS counter showing a capped 60 FPS but without any indication of the GPU's max capabilities? Fine. But 3 words: uncapped FPS counter. That changes perception about a product immensely and professional marketers know it. Again, the demos...
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    Geforce GTX 1080 Ti now official - Faster than Titan X ($699)

    See, this justification still somehow persists. What part of "AMD don't sandbag data and here's a bunch of consistent evidence" is difficult to understand? It's basic marketing and something AMD have been very consistent about. You don't use "Fiji drivers" with a GPU of a completely different...
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    Geforce GTX 1080 Ti now official - Faster than Titan X ($699)

    I'm not talking about "estimates" based on some nebulous combination of workloads, I'm talking about the actual benchmark data they gave us from very specific workloads before release. And as I said, AMD do not sandbag their benchmark data. Polaris was best-case, Fiji was best-case, Ryzen was...
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    Geforce GTX 1080 Ti now official - Faster than Titan X ($699)

    No, my argument is more akin to "look at the performance figures AMD gave us for Ryzen, they're fairly accurate representations of Ryzen's best-case scenarios just like Polaris and Fiji's marketing material and really those of every hardware company ever; there's no reason for AMD's marketers to...
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    Geforce GTX 1080 Ti now official - Faster than Titan X ($699)

    So no compelling arguments then? Another year, another round of people trying to discredit speculation and disappointment from past patterns based on instinctual hope rather than sense.
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    Geforce GTX 1080 Ti now official - Faster than Titan X ($699)

    If you need a psychic to form an opinion on performance figures given freely by AMD, I'm a bit concerned. AMD demoed Vega, they chose the game(s) most friendly to their hardware (Doom), they stated the settings (ultra), they left the FPS counter up (knowing full well that it gives performance...
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    Geforce GTX 1080 Ti now official - Faster than Titan X ($699)

    I'm not thinking it, I'm seeing it. It's right there. You can see it too. And yeah about AMD's engineers and their financial ability to produce competitive consumer chips, actually. Considering how massively Maxwell/Pascal thrash every derivative of GCN in efficiency (transistor count, power...
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    Geforce GTX 1080 Ti now official - Faster than Titan X ($699)

    AMD's cherrypicked marketing demonstrations in Doom and Battlefront that still fail to impress. Are you that willfully ignorant just because you don't like what you see? No wait, let me guess. You actually believe AMD would sabotage themselves and deliberately show FPS on massively immature...
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    Geforce GTX 1080 Ti now official - Faster than Titan X ($699)

    Okay? You can make as many illogical guesses as you want. It has no bearing on reality and that reality is that Nvidia are crushing RTG while what we've seen of Vega pegs it at GP104 level or very slightly above at best. Sorry if using my eyes somehow offends you and forces you to make up...
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    Geforce GTX 1080 Ti now official - Faster than Titan X ($699)

    I don't think that's what he meant, but of course people will be buying high-end GPUs in H2 2017. Unfortunately, AMD won't have any... not if Vega is so pathetic it can barely compete with a year-old mid-range Pascal as what we've seen indicates.
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    General Discussion forked from Nvidia Quadro P6000 Review

    I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not.
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    NVIDIA Quadro P6000 Review - Faster Than Titan X (3840 CUDA Cores)

    Glorious GPU that will never fully see the light of day for consumers. Watch GV104 barely match/beat a full GP102 a year or more later, yet get touted by Nvidia as being revolutionary or something for $700+ in 2018 because all they fed us up until then was a neutered GP102. For a similar...
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    General Discussion forked from Nvidia Quadro P6000 Review

    Glorious GPU that will never fully see the light of day for consumers. Watch GV104 barely match/beat a full GP102 a year or more later, yet get touted by Nvidia as being revolutionary or something for $700+ in 2018 because all they fed us up until then was a neutered GP102. For a similar...
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    Nvidia may combat Vega with offering 980ti owners a step up to 1080ti

    Wut. You just got done lambasting people for not having patience and jumping on the first-launched Pascal parts. Now you're flat-out saying you would have done the same while criticizing the patience of people who don't do that. That's nice, but you know full well no one cares about the...
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    Nvidia may combat Vega with offering 980ti owners a step up to 1080ti

    Agreed. There's a portion of the market that blithely buys into $600-$700 mid-range chips, a portion that indiscriminately pays quadruple-digit figures for the best on the market, and then there's a portion of high-spending and informed enthusiasts who want only the high-end chip/an actual...
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    High end video card competition over the past 6 years

    Yeah, it does suck I agree. But that goes back fo the thread's topic - lack of competition. I don't think the Fury X was really good competition for GM200, but it was at least enough to light a fire under Nvidia's butt and give us the 980 Ti. This time around, Vega's just so late to compete...
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    High end video card competition over the past 6 years

    Well, it didn't help overall performance advancements. But, it doesn't really matter in the context of relative competition. Maxwell managed nothing short of an engineering marvel in being able to squeeze so much out of 28nm. As for AMD and GCN, eh... Maxwell is still (in the form of Pascal)...
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    High end video card competition over the past 6 years

    I voted 2014, 2015, and 2016. I'd like to add 2013 as well though. Really, every year since GCN debuted has been gradually worse than the last. 2013 - GK110 alone on the market most of the year; Hawaii did launch months later, but mining prices made it an non-viable option. 2014 - Mining...
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    Vega/Navi Rumors (Updated)

    Wait, wait, wait... middle of 2017... for that 4096 shader part formerly known as Greenland? With HBM2? That, based on all reasonable calculations considering GCN's performance capabilities, would barely be able to compete with GP104 and will definitely still cost either more to make and/or more...
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    Watchdogs2 benchmarks

    Overall takeaway: The Fury X is erratically-performing garbage (as objective people and Nvidia-lovers alike have known for a year and a half now) likely due to either its weak front-end and/or VRAM (and at other times due to CPU overhead). Contrary to the former rallying call of a few particular...
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    Watchdogs2 benchmarks

    In that 1440p result, the aftermarket 1080 is only 21% faster than the aftermarket 980 Ti. At 4K, that lead shrinks to a measly 16% (the 1070 falling ever so slightly behind the 980 Ti). Pascal so far has been okay for people looking for 980 Ti and 980 performance at a couple hundred dollars...
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    Coffee Lake -- Yea or Nay?

    Considering Coffee Lake is supposedly Kaby Lake with more cores and considering that Kaby Lake appears to literally be the same architecture as Skylake (only with an improved 14nm node), I see no reason to bother with Coffee Lake instead of just getting Skylake-X. Their architectures should be...
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    Ah, thanks. Gotta ask for anyone who knows, do Broadwell-E BIOSes allow the user to disable AVX2 (while keeping plain AVX enabled)? Wondering if it'll be possible to keep some AVX instructions active while disabling AVX-512 on Skylake-X (if it has it). Can be a real power hog.
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    And by Xeons, they mean Skylake-X/E right?
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    So... the 8800GTX's 10th Birthday was like 3 days ago. Happy Birthday, G80!

    8800 Ultra was like the OG factory OC'd card... that launched like half a year a later and costed way more. :p With the 8800GT getting so close to the others for so cheap, the entire 8800 series was just so over the place. Like... it was so much excess awesome, the entire lineup got a piece. :p...
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    So... the 8800GTX's 10th Birthday was like 3 days ago. Happy Birthday, G80!

    I'm just one of those old-timer enthusiasts who feels like the only guy who remembers things sometimes. I hope others around here can remember one of the most legendary video cards of all time though. This beauty launched 10 years ago on November 8, 2006 (just in time to be a godsend to...
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    Why no info on Intel's next microarchitecture?

    Hm? Why Haifa? I thought the Oregon team were working on Icelake (considering the Haifa team did Skylake).
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    That heatspreader design is so aggressive. I'ma empty out my piggybank on one of these babies and use them for a decade/until they die from overclocking. Wish Skylake-X were here sooner, though. 2 years after the equivalent mainstream generation's launch is so freaking long. Edit: Anyone got a...
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    GeForce GTX 750 ti or Radeon RX 460?

    I gotta agree with happy medium on this (thanks for stressing the CPU/RAM importance happy medium!). A used 750 Ti + a used quad-core + the extra RAM is the most balanced and best shot you've got to play modern games with that PC. The RX 460 even with the same CPU would be much worse on such an...
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    GeForce GTX 750 ti or Radeon RX 460?

    If used, $60 750 Tis are an option the OP would consider, than yeah that'd be good. He did seem to have his sights set on the brand new ~$100 range though and for that price, the 460 and 750 Ti should both be ignored. Just giving him a heads up that neither of those cards are worth it for $100+...
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    GeForce GTX 750 ti or Radeon RX 460?

    Hello Robert Berry. I don't know when you were given the advice about the 750 Ti and the RX 460, but Nvidia released the GTX 1050 just a couple weeks ago and it's now pretty easily the best option in that price range. You can get a good EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 SC GAMING for $120 on Newegg or...
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    [VideoCardz]NVIDIA GP104 and first Polaris GPUs supposedly spotted on Zauba

    Indeed, anyone who does believe that is beyond reasoning. Who believes that? Are you referring to this: Because nowhere in that do I state GK104 is a better GPU than Tahiti now. I never even stated it was ever better. I said the 7970's launch was weak enough for GK104 to be a viable contender...
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