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    AMD launches Zen+ 12nm Ryzen and X470 motherboards

    a major problem of this is the loss of the best cooling tech. e.g. Twin Forzer from MSI is no longer available for AMD cards as Gaming X branding is now reserved for nv: https://www.msi.com/Graphics-cards/#?tag=Radeon<sup>TM</sup>-RX-Vega<sup>64</sup>
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    AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

    oops. sorry, grabed the wrong link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY77Xw0D0mM&t Single rank @ Geil X Evo 2666/3200 vs Dual Rank @ ADATA 2666/3066 hope you speak russian also...
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    AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

    I think most of the issues with dual ranked and/or non-b-die ram have been solved. got my friend a hynix 3200C16 ram and it works fine since AGESA 1.0.0.6, especially on upper mid range boards (£100 or more) another note on dual ranked RAM is that they are faster than single ranked RAM...
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    AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

    AMD "datasheet" says the value should never go above 1.05v. Thats an effective range of 0.9-1.05v. So I actually wonder how effective it is. and they say lower value is better for stability.
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    AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

    whats the defailt CLDO_VDDP? My G Skill boots with 1.0 Soc but does not stay stable during an intense gaming session.
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    AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

    just install the new 1.0.0.6 BIOS. I have to say, its like getting a new CPU altogether! Got my GSkill 3000C14 running at 3466 strap at 15-15-15-36-2T @ 1.375v and SoC@1.1v!
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    For Gaming i7-7700 or Ryzen1700?

    huh? if its worst case scenario, why quote it? this is the second time in last two days that I noticed you are representing worst case (sometimes unrealistic ) as being the norm. the other time with the -55 to 120C temp fluctuations. seems like you got tangled in all the misinformation that you...
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    For Gaming i7-7700 or Ryzen1700?

    1. exactly, it does not see extra threads. 2. changing goalpost when it suits. 3. Did not realize it was opensource. I would if it increased the productivity of my workload.
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    For Gaming i7-7700 or Ryzen1700?

    Why do you reckon the i5 vs i7 results are so close? Lol I am no professional coder, but even my codes can utilize 24 threads. Its funny how Intel fanboys, yes fanboys, are always changing the goal posts. Before ryzen they used to get blisters on their typing figures quoting cinebench scores...
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    For Gaming i7-7700 or Ryzen1700?

    There is no need to act like I shot your puppy. They sold 400+ million devices from store? Who buys stuff at store? These number are also sold to companies. Do you reckon anyone would buy their service if their internal record din add up with the vgchart? Anyway, do a survey of random ppl and...
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    For Gaming i7-7700 or Ryzen1700?

    This is really off topic. But I don't get why it comes as a surprise. Consoles are cheaper, low maintenance and last longer. All pc games have going is better grafix and hackers ruining multiplayer games. When kids are young, their first going machine is almost always a console. Even at high...
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    Intel Tells 7700k Owners to Stop Overclocking to Avoid High Temps

    while he did not specify how he killed his other 2 chips, i believe he specifically mentioned about registers and caps on the edge of the pcb, which i believe he nicked accidentally as he did not know they were there. silicon crystalline, which is used to make the wafers have a hardness of...
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    Intel Tells 7700k Owners to Stop Overclocking to Avoid High Temps

    Intel CPUs down clock themselves when it is running AVX codes irrespective of temps. So the effect should be not be anything that is different from normal usage. http://www.anandtech.com/show/10158/the-intel-xeon-e5-v4-review/3
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    Intel Tells 7700k Owners to Stop Overclocking to Avoid High Temps

    1. so? its showing the 7700 which has problems. 2. Yes, you the one arguing wihout any proof or real life demonstration what so ever 3. So? 4. So? read the link yourself please: "thermal cycle is performed by going from -55 °C to 125 °C while each temperature is hold [held] for 15 minutes"...
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    Intel Tells 7700k Owners to Stop Overclocking to Avoid High Temps

    and your point is? micro cracks will occur due to stress caused by rapid spike/fluctuations temps. the magnitude of the spike and the freq are the main concerns and not the maximum attainable temp, there are solder pads that work just fine at 200C. true, the lower limit will mean lower magnitude...
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    Intel Tells 7700k Owners to Stop Overclocking to Avoid High Temps

    soldered CPU seems to be working fine on AMD's FX line space heaters, no pun intended. not to mention all the older CPUs from 2000 which are still working fine on old systems. you are making a CPU here not a nuclear reactor that you have to worry about microcracks to copy the author of the...
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    Intel Tells 7700k Owners to Stop Overclocking to Avoid High Temps

    last time I checked, CPUs do not have any non-volatile memory. which is why the AGESA update from AMD needs to be implemented through BIOS, and why CPU voltage and other tweaks gets reset when you use the clear CMOS jumper. I could be wrong here .
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    Intel Tells 7700k Owners to Stop Overclocking to Avoid High Temps

    That statement you quoted cannot be taken as a confirmation that AMD does not provide warranty on OCed CPU. its only a disclaimer. I don't think it is even possible for AMD to know if a CPU was overclocked or not without access to the MB BIOS CMOS data. and AMD explicitly states that "Remove the...
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    For Gaming i7-7700 or Ryzen1700?

    firstly, the first sentence literally stated "while it can apply to both camps".. selective reading much? secondly, i have heard this logic against "A,B, and C happening" many times. saying it over and over again does not change the fact that most of the AAA titles from 2016 are heavily...
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    For Gaming i7-7700 or Ryzen1700?

    Publié le 15/03/2017 par %20-%20AMD%20Ryzen%207%201700X%20et%20Ryzen%207%201700%20en%20test']Guillaume Louel
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    For Gaming i7-7700 or Ryzen1700?

    Being objective. :) for example, 1. FX has been a shit option from day one. 2. AMD never had a good mobile platform, and i donot think they will be able to shake up the mobile market with ryzen (maybe ryzen+) 3. no one should buy any 1500/1500x unless severely budget constraint, even if making...
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    For Gaming i7-7700 or Ryzen1700?

    when you pulled one company to justify an entire industry, you donot deserve an answer more than this. and they have be rewriting and validating their engines. just like they are doing now with DX12. come towards the light side! I smell your fear in you for your i5. and fear leads to the dark...
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    For Gaming i7-7700 or Ryzen1700?

    while it can apply to both camps, but saying something over and over again simply does not change reality. all ryzens CPUs are evenly paced. currents games may be slightly behind an i7 (5-10%) when using 1080 class GPU but when pairing a 1600x/1700 with a 1070 class CPUs, the performance is...
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    For Ryzen Owners w/3200 memory

    while i donot have a 3200Mhz DIMM, I do have a Ripjaws V 3000C14 that i am able to run at 3200C14 by setting the A-XMP to 3000Mhz and then changing the freq to 3200, timings to 14-16-16-16-36 and 40 ohm on MSI mortar BIOS 1.3 only (did not try 1.0/1.1). :) voltage had to be bumped to 1.375...
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    AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

    just curious, but are you able to OC on Auto VCore? my Vcore and CID gets stuck at 1.23v when i manually change the freq with ryzen 5. I am on mortar but i have this on both 1.2 and 1.3 BIOS. did not try older revisions.
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    AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

    cool, they updated the string to say "SummitPI-AM4 1.0.0.4a". progress!
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    AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

    RAID is a widely accepted feature for a variety of reasons. my needs (larger disk space) are covered under RAID0 and RAID10. I chose RAID0 as it has the advantage of speed as well. it does not cost anything extra. you keep saying that but why? just because it's not working as it should on a new...
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    AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

    i use windows to run off the SSDs as its still my primary OS :) Jesus! because i can. its a legit method that ryzen is yet to support. its not supposed to be a headache. it has never been since i started using them in 2013. RAID is a very simple thing to implement. just as simple as dynamic...
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    AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

    I did, including breaking at loading busybox to load RAID driver. I use RAID for windows disk only. Its because o had 2 90gb drives that I joined together to make 180gb. I see no issue with it as i used this config for years. Could have done raid 10 as well, but that's beside the point. Point...
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    AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

    okay, AMD does not support RAID on Linux yet :( i usually have three drives: 2x SSD in RAID0 used as Windows boot drive. 1x1TB HDD with a 200GB EXT4 Linux partition and other 800GB as NTFS, access from both systems. after a day of trying all sorts of thing, including whipping MRB on my...
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    Ryzen Overclock thread. JUST OC results, and hardware/settings

    if your current temps are at 50C, your cooler is not the issue. try downclocking the RAM and then up the CPU frequency and volt
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    AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

    Thanks for the confirmation. yes, that seems to be the issue, I am on RAID0, i think the drivers for AMD B350 raid is not baked into the installer yet. :( And the AHCI does not work for me because my GPT lists the drives as RAID and hence the installer skips it altogether.
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    AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

    Has anyone been able to install Ubuntu 17.x/openSUSE in MSI B350 board? I am trying to install, but it does not see any of my disk in RAID mode (fdisk -l returns no Sata drives), while in ADHI mode, it detects the SATA drives but not the partitions. :( any thoughts?
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    AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

    I also have a similar issue. If I activate raid and turn off serial/parallel com in the bios, I get a 10 sec long post on the RAID welcome page. If I press Ctrl+R to try and enter RAID, nothing happens. Funny times we are dealing with, not that it has not been exciting.
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    Ryzen Overclock thread. JUST OC results, and hardware/settings

    What were your load temps like? My 1600 hits 3.8g at 1.3375 with a temp of 52 C. Did not try fractional multipliers. But yes, it does not seem worth pushing insane amounts of volts and money on WC for 150 mhz
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    Ryzen Overclock thread. JUST OC results, and hardware/settings

    Turn up the fan speed. Temps matter when it comes to what volts you need for a certain clock. I need 1.275 v for 3.7 GHz at 60 C where as only 1.225 at 50 C
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    Ryzen oddness

    none of those three posts indicates that the OP "has no clue what he is doing honestly " :) although the last post was factually incorrect, it does not imply anything other than being confused about a thing that i am sure most average joe is confused with :)
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    Ryzen Overclock thread. JUST OC results, and hardware/settings

    here are the minimum volts for 3.8 Ghz. (stress test 1 hr) 60C-> 1.3375v LLC1 (1.291v after vdroop) 55C-> 1.3250v LLC1 (1.275v after vdroop) 51C-> 1.3125v LLC1 (1.267v after vdroop) -- only stable for 15 minutes. Decided not to test 3.9 Ghz as it requires 1.425 v LLC for stable and it makes me...
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    AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

    yes indeed, the G Skill kits they mentioned are also Hynix. But having said that, there are some hynix kits that do hit the advertised speeds
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    Ryzen Overclock thread. JUST OC results, and hardware/settings

    So its the easter weekend. What better way to spend it than play with my new toy.:) I have been toying with undervolting ryzen for the last 10 hour to try an understand the stability of ryzen with temp. This is what I did. I know I can hit stable 3.7 GHz on 1.25 v MB Vcore (1.2v after VDroop)...
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