My Asus TUF Gaming X570-plus (wifi) has worked a charm. Not experienced any issues with it. I like the boot LEDs that reassure you that everything is working correctly. I purchased a boot-up speaker for around £1.50 to go with it.
The board is for simple to re-flash using EZ-flash, and ASUS have...
I hadn't built my own pc in a very very long time, and then Ryzen came along. The first gen was great value, but not quite enough to get my money. The second gen was only ever billed as a minor upgrade, so was never going to get my money. This third gen went above and beyond, not only in price...
You said you'd studied economics...
The first thing you learn is about supply and demand curves. What you are proposing is that AMD essentially only sell this 3600x2 CPU, as that would be the price-performance winner on every metric for years to come. You propose they sell it at a lower price...
...and you fail to explain how selling a low volume product at the same margin as a high volume product actually produces more overall profit.
For a product to be worthwhile then its margin must reflect the volume of sales that applies to.
The other aspect here is that if it is the chiplets...
Mine also reports 99.8MHz BCLK.
I'm not very bothered by it since I'm not having any issues hitting the advertised clocks, and my RAM had no issues going from 3200MHz CL16 16-18-18-36 to 3200MHz CL14 14-17-17-34 with FCLK of 1800MHz and no voltage changes.
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/20435335
My best Userbench run from today.
Pretty impressed that I got my 3600X to score 99.2% which puts it in the 100th percentile. :cool:
edit: why settle for 99.2% when https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/20436669 100% is possible...
Does seem like quite high idle temperature TBH. I'm at 32-36C with my 3600X and air cooling.
Temperature spikes aren't an issue though since these CPUs cool down incredibly quickly after they spike.
Updated my Ryzen Master since I didn't initially do so after updating BIOS.
From what I could tell, it makes little to no difference if you manually set a peak VCore since it won't abide by it anyhow...if CPUZ is anything to go by.
Talking of CPUZ. Seems as though reference benchmarks are way...
I'll check it out again later. It's easy enough for me to test; just a couple of button clicks and reboots.
From memory, temperatures looked good.
The thing with Ryzen Master is that it's polling rate is so low, hence why it misses true behaviour. For instance, even peak clocks are missed...
Ryzen Master...which matched up exactly with what it said in the BIOS.
I thought it was strange due to the manual tab normally requiring voltage control to be set as enabled, yet here it didn't require it and the CPU exhibited normal voltage changing behaviour when not needed.
I had no issues running 4.275GHz at 1.1v in Cinebench R20 MT. Got 3875 for the 3600X.
Seems like quite a big jump to get the 3900X running the same clocks.
Edit:
After updating to ABBA AGESA I clicked the "OC Tuner" button in the BIOS. It decided that 4.1GHz at 1.1v was the optimum level.
I...
Have you checked the fuse in your plug? Silly question, but you never know.
Anyway, PSU tester and beeper speaker can be bought for less than £10 combined. I bought some myself during my own build when I discovered that my CPU was tripping my motherboard.
Have to admit, the beeper speaker is...
Those clock hounds must be pleased that their CPU now clocks 0.025GHz higher for a net zero increase in performance.
If it performs, it performs.
The way some were moaning you'd think they were expecting a 10% uplift in performance for their 0.025GHz (or 0.5%).
I don't think it is really a debate about whether either has knowledge about computers, rather a debate about which of you can apply logic and common sense.
Boost implies not sustained. It isn't a difficult concept to understand.
If a clock is sustained at max boost then it is operating out of spec, as is the case with Intel CPUs.
Not sure I agree with the statement that only one of the cores can hit the advertised boost clock. All of mine can exceed it. Problem is that they can't do it on their own.
I had no issues at all getting my 3600X to run (and hold) 4.5GHz+ on each core individually. That tells me that it isn't that the cores causing the issue, its the algorithms that are behind boost behaviour.
Admittedly, it wasn't under a CB R20 load, but it wasn't a fleeting clock either.
What...
Some serious design issues on these X570 boards.
Vast majority have their fans completely covered by any full sized GPU.
Mine isn't causing any issues but it is still a serious oversight IMO.
You'd be surprised at how large that market really is. Afterall, some folk are prepared to spend a grand on a smartphone that is barely a minor iteration of last year's version (which they also bought).
So I tested each core of my 3600X individually in Ryzen Master in the evening yesterday. Each core was able to hit and hold 4.5GHz at 1.425v during a 3-minute Ryzen Master stress test.
The cores are clearly able to hit (and exceed) their advertised boosts. However, in practice they simply don't...
How low have people been able to go with their manual undervolting of a 5700XT?
I'm mostly gaming at 4K with a 60 fps limit applied. Not tried manually undervolting yet, though the auto-undervolt in Wattman barely lowers the curve; it does kick up typical clocks from 1870MHz to 2000MHz though...
The X no longer means anything.
For 1st and 2nd gen it referred to XFR, which is by now a pretty standard functionality of PB2...which all 3rd gen utilise.
Edit: you could say that the 3700X is is the non-X version of the 3800X.
By dud you mean a 1700 that wouldn't hit 4GHz all core?
If so, you'd be looking at 10-15% higher clocks, 15% higher IPC, bucketloads more cache, UMA, and much more scope for better RAM.
I clicked on "enable DOCP" in the BIOS, which is exactly the same as setting an XMP profile. Best thing was that it was easily visible in the EZ BIOS, and not tucked away in advanced settings.
Of course, even DOCP leaves something on the table. Ryzen DRAM Calculator says that I should get...
Is it normal for Ryzen Master to display peak clocks over a prolonged period that do not correspond with the on-screen display I get with Afterburner/Rivatuner?
The latter seems to suggest cores almost always clocked near max, whereas the former doesn't even suggest that those clocks were hit at...
21m of Prime95 Small FFT:
All cores hitting 4.04GHz throughout at a pretty consistent 1.353v, 87-89C
Edit: with BIOS build version 0406 (which is a pre-release BIOS not currently listed on their support page)
I'm finally up and running. Signature updated.
Idle temperature of around 32C and 0.9-0.95v.
Not updated BIOS yet, so still on a pre-release BIOS.
All I've changed thus far is PBO from Auto to Off, and DOCP enabled on the RAM, plus som changes to the fan curves.
Played a battle each of War...
RMA'd the 3600 and ordered a 3600X for only £18 more than I paid for the 3600; pretty much a no-brainer.
If it still doesn't power up with CPU in socket then the X570 will need to go back too.
PSU tester arrived last night, so I'll test that today.
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