Interesting. I asked Elmor from Asus and told me he would have to investigate, which suggests it shouldn't be performing as badly as it is. Admittedly I am new to the M2 SSD world though so I'm sure I have a lot to learn as well.
I did find these two reviews - I didn't see anywhere that said...
Ah ok maybe that makes a difference - both are X299 though so shouldn't be too much different. Is there another way to run them other than through the PCH on X299? Regardless I would think on a higher end MOBO, the speeds of modern M2 drives shouldn't be bottlenecked.
These are NOT my results - My results are all around 2/3 of these numbers and in some cases 1/2. The below is what I should be getting but I'm way less on both identical tests. The biggest differences are in Seq Q32T1 and Seq where I am a full 1000MB/s slower.
I was looking at this one - is that not the correct one?
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2016/10/Review-chart-template-final-full-width-3.001-1.png
I guess regardless, tons of people are getting the full advertised maximum speeds, so we should be too. On that test I get...
Their sequential read is 800MB/s higher and write speeds are 200 MB/s higher. Your benchmark (and mine) is a lot slower than what they got in that review. I just want the performance I paid for - right now I am not getting that. If I am not going to get it, I might as well return it for an...
Yours looks similar to mine - stuck around 2/3 speed. User benchmarks should show maximum performance or very close to it, lots of people have posted samples. Not sure whats going on with these boards, I can't figure it out.
I have an 960 PRO 512GB In an ASUS TUF MK1, it will not go over 2/3 speed either in Samsung Magician benchmark or CrystalDisk. I hope it's just a BIOS thing, I really don't want to RMA my mobo and/or 960 Pro. And yes I am using Samsuing NVME drivers, not the Windows ones (but they had...
Just got my system, running 7820X and Asus TUF MK1. I'm having problems with my Samsung 960 pro though, hopefully someone can help. I cannot get it anywhere near it's advertised speeds. Best I can do is about 2300 MB Read/ 1700 MB write. I changed the Mircosoft NVME driver to the Samsung one...
Has anyone tried a 7820X with a Noctua NH-D15 yet? I would OC to 4.5-4.6. I REALLY don't want water cooling if I don't absolutely have to and the last thing I want to do is buy new AIO's every few years 'just in case'. Every review I've ever seen has it hanging with all the 240mm AIO's but...
I'm not fudging any numbers, nor did I intend to say anything misleading. The plan was always to OC a 1700, I would not buy an 1800X. For max OC on a 1700, I wanted a quality board with beefy VRM. I use a ton of SATA ports, USB 3.0/3.1, etc. On top of that I keep my PC's for 6ish years, so I...
I see what you're saying, but I am comparing what the premium would be *for me* because that's the only thing I care about price-wise, so it was CH6 vs the X299 selection. If you wanted to compare entry level to entry level, the gap would be larger in favor of Ryzen, no doubt, but I was not...
I don't know what to tell you, you ignored where I said "with the feature set I wanted" and "for my usage". I did a ton of research and was going to buy the CH6, that is a fact. Therefore I compare with other $350 boards on the X299 side. If a cheaper or different board works for you...
You have to compare similar Mobo's. The CH6 is the go-to mobo in the Ryzen world, and the one I was going to buy with the feature set I wanted, and the one most likely to best support the next 2 generations of AM4 CPUs. That is $350 here in Canada. You can also buy nicely featured X299 boards...
A base SL-X clocks higher than a maxed out 1700 or 1800X though, so you are still getting a faster CPU, so even if you don't OC to the max, but do something reasonable like 4.5-4.6Ghz (hence my plan), you are still getting significantly better performance comparing a stock or OC'd 7820x to a...
I *almost* bought Ryzen and I am still buying Skylake X. Every person who actually owns the hardware doesn't seem to have any issues with VRMs or temperatures outside extreme scenarios. People like me who just want 8 cores around 4.5 Ghz and a healthy performance boost from Ryzen especially on...
Yes I know, I just thought thats what the person meant so I took the liberty of clarifying :) . Coffee Lake will be on 14++ rather than 14+, not shrunk, but I think that's what he meant.
How are you liking your TUF 1? There is so little info available for it, not many people seem to have bought it (yet). I haven't been able to find any VRM details on it either other than it's a 8+2 phase.
Why is Killer LAN so bad? Can you elaborate? I was thinking of changing my TUF 1 order to the Aorus 7 but maybe not if it has crappy LAN... I have a 180 Mbps connection, can I assume it wouldn't even be able to handle that sustained maximum?
Positive news from Silicon Lottery re: VRM / overclock temps:
The issue isn't as dire as everyone is making it out to be. I wouldn't have mentioned my own issues if I had known der8auer was going to make a video on it.
We have aimed the exhaust of our AIOs at the VRMs, and it has taken care of...
Thanks I did not realize he was using custom cables - I figured they were included with then unit. The PSU's themselves get incredible reviews: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=494
One thing tempting me to the 1000W unit was Johnny Guru's ridiculously positive review :
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=494
His 850W review is very positive too, but he can't seem to be able to get over how good that 1000W is haha.
My other thought was that...
Thanks. There is a hefty price bump from 850 to 1000, but I will pay the difference if it's warranted. I guess I can run a stress test and exchange it if necessary - my UPS tells me what the power draw from the wall is so if it's anywhere near 800W during a benchmark I might opt for the 1000W.
Thanks! All the retailers are advertising 4.3 on all cores, 4.5 on up to 2 cores - I must be misunderstanding something there. Are you at least seeing Turbo Boost 3.0 work for 4.5 GHz on 2 cores?
Also what PSU are you using? I was looking at the EVGA SuperNOVA 850 or 1000 G3 however they are...
May I ask if you had to raise your BCLK to get the RAM to run at 3200? And did you use an XMP profile or just manually OC it?
And also, isn't all-core turbo 4.3 GHz stock? I was confused when you said you OC'd it to 4.2. Got my 7820 on order and trying not to get too scared by all the...
Thanks! Will it hurt anything to use both power connectors? I'd rather the power be available just in case.
CPU is in stock but still waiting on the mobo. I also wouldn't mind your opinion on an 850W or 1000W Power Supply (EVGA SuperNOVA G3 for sure - but it's a SuperFlower so I am trying to...
I ordered an Asus TUF Mk1 which has an 8 pin + 4 pin power connector - do you guys think that is enough for the 8C 7820 and a light OC to maybe 4.5 on all cores instead of just turbo 3.0?
UF Features:
TUF ENGINE! Power Design :
- 8 +2 Digital Phase Power Design
- TUF Components (Choke, Cap. &...
Quick question for you guys - I just learned today that some XMP profiles change the base clock of your entire system. Is it possible to buy 3000-3200Mhz RAM that does *not* do this? I do not want the XMP to be affecting my PCI slots, CPU, etc. if I am understanding that correctly. The one...
TechSpot got the 7900X to 73-74C maximum under load with a larger AIO cooler at 4.7 GHz which gave about a 15% performance increase. That seemed pretty good to me considering the less than ideal IHS:
https://www.techspot.com/review/1437-overclocking-core-i9/
Previously, I was only able to...
If I may offer a third scenario, which is why I am buying. Heavy photo editing. Photoshop combines very single-threaded and very multi-threaded processes (especially in some plug-ins I use), so if I can get an 8C with clock speeds and IPC roughly equivalent to the best quad core (say, a...
That's 400W from the wall though, right, and for the entre system with GPU? That just doesn't seem like that much to me, especially when most people are running 650-1000W power supplies. I could very well be misinterpreting something though.
Are those voltages correct? 1.8+? Every other review I've seen got a decent OC around 1.25 and could go higher with 1.3 but it got too hot. 1.8 seems way too high, no?
Phew! That vertical configuration does look pretty crappy, just asking to be snapped off. I'm just going with one 960 PRO 512GB, then the rest is SATA (1X Samsung 850 PRo SSD + 4 HDDs).
I'm guessing I'd be happy with the Gigabyte as well, aside from some light overclocking I don't even use a...
Only $30 cheaper for me here in Canada for the Gaming 3 ($419 vs $459), so I'll probably stick with the TUF just because Asus has been good to me (no issues over 10+ years using their products) and they are usually on the ball with BIOS updates. I don't need dual LAN either but the TUF 1 has a...
Good to hear, thanks - I did not know I could turn off the M2 fan. I think the M2 drive will already be under a heatsink on that board so might not need the fan at all.
Ordered a 7820K and Asus TUF Mk.1. Never owned a TUF board before with the built in fan, so hopefully that isn't a reliability concern. Even a mild OC at 4.5-4.6 Ghz on all cores will be absolutely fantastic for my usage. I waited past Ryzen for this and I'm glad I did. Cost was not an issue...
Can someone explain to me please why the vertical M2 drive on the Asus boards is an issue? I ordered a TUF MK1 but now I am worried...I assume a board like that has no trouble maxing out a 960 PRO SSD in any configuration - is that wrong?
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