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    Barcelona 'openssl speed' benchmarks

    That SSL bench was a good find. I believe that K8 also performed better in SSL vs non-secure HTTP applications. It still was bested by Core 2 in IPC, but it was much closer with the SSL benchmarks. I think that this must imply some amount of FPU dependence in the SSL benchmark. I don't...
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    AMD Barcelona Thoughts/Questions

    No. I don't think so. The server versions will get an IMC the desktop versions will still have a north bridge. This is the best of both worlds for Intel. They get all the performance advantages in the server world, and still get to charge for both a CPU and a North Bridge chip in the...
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    AMD Barcelona Thoughts/Questions

    I think that Intel would gain very little performance (lower latency) by moving away from FBDimms, but would lose a great deal of power consumption. They would lose the ability to hold lots of memory which would hurt them (in performance) in database servers tremendously. As for AMD's...
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    AMD Barcelona Thoughts/Questions

    coldpower27, That is a big part of it, but the IMC also makes a difference. The "other" stuff catagory on the Intel system includes their North Bridge which is likely eating some power as well. That being said, I think that Intel would re-gain the performance/watt crown if they abandoned...
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    AMD Barcelona Thoughts/Questions

    Phynaz, It is 25% faster clock for clock, but here is the link: From here: http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/13224/4 If you look at the SPECjbb2005 scores, you can derive the 25% IPC. The 2.5Ghz K10 lands right between the 3.0Ghz Clovertown and the 3.0Ghz Penryn. Not bad for a...
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    AMD Barcelona Thoughts/Questions

    TechReport has a new article up here: http://techreport.com/articles.x/13224 In application server benchmarks, a 2.5Ghz K10 is faster than a 3.0Ghz Clovertown and only 4% slower than the 3.0Ghz Penryn (if you look at the 4 warehouse score it actually equals it). In application server...
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    AMD prepares three-core processors

    coldpower27, Very good point. While AMD did in fact scale this far, it took forever ..... something they do not have today ;) And yes, I am sure that Power6's architecture is a major factor in its scaling. I was aiming to head off the argument that AMD's SOI process is the fiend holding...
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    AMD prepares three-core processors

    A tri core processor actually makes a great deal of sense. AMD could either throw them away ...... or sell them as tri-cores when one core doesn't operate. There is little doubt that a tri-core K10 processor, even at 2.5Ghz, would beat a 2.93Ghz dual core Core 2 in highly threaded...
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    AMD Barcelona Thoughts/Questions

    On the question of why AMD chose to use an L3 cache: The L3 (unlike the L2) is a semi-exclusive "victim" cache and is shared. This is nearly exclusively a multi-threaded advantage. For single threaded applications, a larger L2 would have been much better. The L3 being shared allows the...
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    ClawHammer in October?

    I have to agree with Anand here. It is very likely that K8 will be announced in November; however, I suspect there will be bunches availible at launch and that AMD will stockpile in anticipation of demand. Some of that demand will be mine :) As soon as they are availible, a Clawhammer system...
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    Tbird 1.4 vs. XP 1500

    AthlonXP has a gadget called "hardware prefetch" which anticipates what it will need from memory and gets it ahead of time. This effectively speeds everything it does up by having more info ready for the processor when it needs it. The real biggie is that AthlonXP supports Intel's SSE...
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    Who are you guys?

    35 years old, US Nuclear Submarine Service (1983-1989), BSEE University of Illinois 1993, Ford Motor Company end of line system test design engineer, Currently director of development for a product called the "Visual Authoring Tool" used for codeless development of embedded...
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    P4's future is looking GOOD to me.

    P4's future looks pretty bleak to me. Here is my rationale: First let me address RAMBUS memory. Serial memory while having lower pin count has much much higher latency (bad bad bad). If this isn't bad enough, it must also run at higher frequencies makeing it consume more power, run hotter...
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    DDR: At THAT price?

    RDRAM was 10 TIMES THE COST OF SDRAM when it came out! DDR is simply experiencing a little profit taking by the RAM manufacturers since they are getting squeezed so hard on SDRAM right now. RDRAM is inhearently more expensive to produce than SDRAM and will NEVER be equal in production cost to...
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    AMD Announces Mobile AMD Duron Processor

    I haven't done any research, but why on earth would the MOBILE Duron need 1.6V when the DESTOP ONLY NEEDS 1.5V?. Additionally, the Duron being used for the mobile market is just a Duron. It is not the Morgan and does not have PowerNow. It is nice to see AMD finally get a serious contender...
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    OMG!!!! Thermaltake wants Mikewarrior to close his site?!?!?!?

    Keep the faith! I don't agree with all of your assertions; however, Thermaltake is clearly in the wrong here. I would never have purchased one anyway since the core cracking fisaco with AMD processors. Just out of curiosity Mike, which HS/Fan do you prefer?
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    Anyone buy memory from Crucial

    I buy all my RAM there. I had an incompatibility between 2 sticks in my A7V. The company support on-line helped me out and replaced my newly purchased stick with one that was compatible without any hassel. Good stuff! Great company.
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    Which fan should I get for a AMD T-Bird 1.2GHz?

    The Taisol C6K742092 is hands down the best value and the quietest. If you have never had a high performance heat sink fan in a room with you, you may want to hear it first before you decide. You don't realize just how noisey it is until you are around it a while. If you intend to oc your...
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    Dad wants to get a laptop, and I know NOTHING about lagtops.

    Our company uses exclusively Dell laptops. I can say from that personal experience that they have questionable quality. Sure, Dell is more than adequate at getting someone over to fix issues when they arrise, but the percentage of problems is pretty scary. I have a group of about 10 engineers...
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    I am truly sorry Intel fans and even more so if you own stock!!!!!

    P4's biggest problem isn't that it doesn't perform as well as a PIII or and Athlon on a clock for clock basis. P4's problem isn't even that it doesn't perform most tasks as fast as a 1.2Ghz Athlon. P4's problem is that it is a new design that has no hope of keeping up with the next generation...
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    Why isn't there a backlash against DDR SDRAM like there was with RDRAM?...RE: VIA KT133A

    NOX, Agreed, it?s really speculation at this point whether DDR will produce greater yields It is statistical fact that higher frequency parts necessarily have lower yields. They also consume more power, produce more heat, and require more stringent design rules when routing the PCB.
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    Whats the BEST way to unlock a duron??

    I personally like the pencil idea more. I used it on my Duron. The L1 bridges are VERY VERY small. If you use pencil, it is quite easy just to erase your mistake if you accidentally cross the pins. Graphite is pretty durable and will surely last once applied. I calculated the conductivity...
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    Why isn't there a backlash against DDR SDRAM like there was with RDRAM?...RE: VIA KT133A

    To clarify my position, I don't believe that serial RAM can ever be as effective in a PC as parallel RAM. I believe that latency distroys processor performance. This is true today when the latency differential between CPU cache and main memory is ONLY one order of magnitude (10). By the end...
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    Poll: and the best CDRW manufacturer is ....

    divinemartyr, could you explain your comment on the yamaha 16x ?
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    Why isn't there a backlash against DDR SDRAM like there was with RDRAM?...RE: VIA KT133A

    For todays programs the KT133A and CAS2 PC133 along with an Athlon processor are the best money can buy in the majority of applications. NFS4, I agree that the hype did not unfold into reality; however, there are some signifigant differences in DDR and RDRAM. RDRAM is fundamentally inferior to...
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    AMD isn't worth it! Stick with Intel :(

    My Duron 600@800 works without a flaw on my ASUS A7V and has for about the last 4 months! Sorry to hear you have had such trials and tribulations.
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    Poll: Problems - ASUS A7V

    It is normal..... wierd as that sounds. It won't actually boot all the way up. It just starts for a few seconds on initial power up. It tripped me out for an hour when I built my system.
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    125,000 People @ $20 Can Prevent the nVidia Monopoly ...

    The money is just a symptom of the real problems at 3dfx. Their product line has simply fallen behind the competition. Even Rampage was to be introduced at 200Mhz on a .25um chip. This is pretty old technology in the processing world. Another issue is their infastructure. 3dfx made a...
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    We all see now I was right 3dfx is out of business! **CONFIRMED**

    Hardware, First let me say that having been to your country on business, your command of the English language is very good .... certainly much better than my command (or lack of command) of the German language. Anyone that slams you for spelling and grammar errors are not very resourceful...
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    POLL: INTEL P4 1.5ghz or AMD 1.2ghz? or not yet?

    DDR reviews have been performed on AMD reference systems or on boards that are not being shipped yet. Although the performance of these systems have been quite stable and have boasted about a 25% boost in performance over a similiarly clocked PC133 system, there has been issues with the AMD 760...
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    what is RDRAM?

    RDRAM is a memory technology from a company called RAMBUS Inc. Intel has choosen this memory for its superior bandwidth (how fast memory can stream into and out of it). It uses a serial protocol meaning that actual messages are sent like on your RS232 port. This unfortunately makes the first...
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    POLL: INTEL P4 1.5ghz or AMD 1.2ghz? or not yet?

    I would say there is a signifigant difference. It will be quite noticable. The TBird would be the path to go. As pointed out, with your system, you are not really on the "low end of the totem pole" right now with your existing system. I would wait out the release of the DDR 760...
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    The future of the video card world, is full chipset integration I kid you not!

    Interesting theory, but.... PC periferial devices are more than you might think on casual inspection. They are in fact processing units. The current way things are done will (IMHO) continue for the foreseeable future. This method is called distributed computing. Each card processes...
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    AMD thunderbird and ASUS A7V are a bad mix

    Having an ASUS A7V with a Duron 600@800 myself, the only difference in our systems seems to be the video card and RAM. I have Crucial RAM and a V3 card. Heed the post on the sound card placement as I know from past experience with the SBLive! that it indeed does not like sharing interrupt...
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    We all see now I was right 3dfx is out of business! **CONFIRMED**

    Hardware, Hurray! Hurray! We finally got rid of that troublesome 3dfx! Now if only someone could find a way to put AMD out of business, we would really be happy.
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    We all see now I was right 3dfx is out of business! **CONFIRMED**

    This is indeed a sad day for the 3D accelerator market. My condolences to those that lost their jobs and more. To those engineers and technitions that made it their lifes work to develop the products for 3dfx, my hat is off to you guys as one engineer to another. To see the company that was...
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    Unreal Tournament always crashing...

    Yep, RAM stability was my issue also.
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    "Semi-Pro" soundcard for recording?

    Reply back when you get setup. I am interested in your results. I am not a professional musician (I found as a muscian that I made a pretty good electrical engineer), but I still play in a band for fun and at some parties. I wouldn't mind getting set up for recording at home, but don't want...
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    AMD stock

    I bought at 32 and 30. Sold at ~16 last week. I think Intel will miss Q4 targets, as will HP, IBM, and some others big ones like Cisco. This will cause a continued market tumble for a few months I fear (which is why I closed my AMD position). I think things will start looking up around June...
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    Intel Optimises Tom's MPEG4 Benchmarks

    Yes, Yes, Yes, there will soon be optimised benchmarks that make P4 look better like the one at Tom's. It will be quite some time (about a year) before there is signifigant support in released software. P4 in this date and time is rather poor all the way around (except for bandwidth). No one...
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