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    [Hardware Unboxed] R7 1700 @4Ghz + 3200Mhz RAm = ~7820X @4.5Ghz

    Yep, TechSpot again. His results with SKL-X is consistently lower than every other review. Nothing to see here, move along.
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    [Techspot] AMD Ryzen 5 1600 vs. Intel Core i7-7800X: 30 Game Battle! [Links Fixed - Updated]

    They used the 1800X OCed @ 4.0 results in the Skylake X tests. So you can compare it against 7740x, 7800x, 7820x, and 7900x. They omitted Ashes & RoTR results for Ryzen since they haven't retested...
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    [Techspot] AMD Ryzen 5 1600 vs. Intel Core i7-7800X: 30 Game Battle! [Links Fixed - Updated]

    That isn't a fair assumption. Their comment on setup was specific to X299 since it was an an X299 review. But I did my due diligence, the details are in their Ryzen 1800X review. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-amd-ryzen-7-1800x-review "GSkill stepped in to provide one of...
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    [Techspot] AMD Ryzen 5 1600 vs. Intel Core i7-7800X: 30 Game Battle! [Links Fixed - Updated]

    Eurogamer used 4 sticks on X299 which is appropriate. They did not say what they used on Z370. It could have been 4 sticks or 2 sticks. 3rd review is hardware.info. So where are the reviews that back up TechSpot's results?
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    [Techspot] AMD Ryzen 5 1600 vs. Intel Core i7-7800X: 30 Game Battle! [Links Fixed - Updated]

    That helps, I wasn't aware Ryzen had problems with that. I think it would have been better to test with 2x8 for Ryzen and 4x8 for SKL-X but I'm not the reviewer.
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    [Techspot] AMD Ryzen 5 1600 vs. Intel Core i7-7800X: 30 Game Battle! [Links Fixed - Updated]

    Its not intentional but that is the way Boost 2.0 works. You mentioning it as if it some type of anomaly and why the results favored the 7800x is not correct and when that is exactly how it should perform. I'm proving that TechSpots results are inconsistent with every other review out there...
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    [Techspot] AMD Ryzen 5 1600 vs. Intel Core i7-7800X: 30 Game Battle! [Links Fixed - Updated]

    Not sure I understand the point you're trying to make. They used the same high quality ram for both platforms. SKL-X CPUs should be benched with quad channel because it makes the most sense to run it that way.
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    [Techspot] AMD Ryzen 5 1600 vs. Intel Core i7-7800X: 30 Game Battle! [Links Fixed - Updated]

    I saw that mentioned in the review but it doesn't matter. Unless there is some temp or power issue the Intel chips never use the base clock during gaming and they'll be running at Turbo 2.0 speeds for all cores all the time anyway. Also the 7800x only gets Boost 2.0 to 4.0ghz and it was compared...
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    [Techspot] AMD Ryzen 5 1600 vs. Intel Core i7-7800X: 30 Game Battle! [Links Fixed - Updated]

    You don't need to test 30 games to see that the results don't quite match the other sites. Here are results of the same games from two other sites except they put the 7800x versus the 1800X instead of the 1600...
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    [Techspot] AMD Ryzen 5 1600 vs. Intel Core i7-7800X: 30 Game Battle! [Links Fixed - Updated]

    The Techspot review seems to be an outlier compared to other sites that has benchmarked SKL-X. No other site has results as poor for the 7800x as this one. I think Digital Foundry has the best and more comprehensive gaming focused review of SKL-X so far. They compared the 7740x, 7800x, 7820x...
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    gtx 1070 to gtx 1080ti

    Put this on a different thread but I think gets pretty close to your answer. I didn't have a 1070 in SLI but I had a pair of 980 Tis in SLI and the two are very close and comparable. I upgraded to a 1080 Ti last week. I was very skeptical of making the change because on paper it should be a side...
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    Who's getting a 1080ti?

    Got the EVGA Hybrid variant of the 1080 Ti early last week and I've been pretty impressed so far. Changed up from two 980 Tis in SLI. I was very skeptical of making the change because on paper it should be a side grade but in practice it was a solid upgrade even on games with decent SLI scaling...
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    Vega/Navi Rumors (Updated)

    I have high hopes for the liquid cooled models but the reference blower will certainly be garbage.
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    Vega/Navi Rumors (Updated)

    Anyone else think that AMD's silence regarding performance suggests that Vega won't be faster than GP102? If AMD knows that Vega is be faster I think they would have said something to keep people interested and waiting. With zero products in the high end they aren't risking cannibalize sales by...
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    Vega/Navi Rumors (Updated)

    Hmmm, good point. Well I know Vega and Polaris are different, but they are designed by the same company, on the same manufacturing process, and with what appears to be a pretty similar architecture as previous GCN cards. Though to your point, GCN 5.0 is new so maybe we could see something like...
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    Vega/Navi Rumors (Updated)

    Also to your point, I wouldn't call 1900mhz 'overclocked' either. 2Ghz sure, but 1900mhz is pretty standard boost clocks right out of the box and the card doesn't need any tweaking to get there. Separate but related question, I know the Linux driver log states maximum clock speed of 1600mhz...
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    Geforce GTX 1080 Ti now official - Faster than Titan X ($699)

    Question for Pascal owners regarding voltage. I've been reading a bunch about how voltage is restricted. I assume that means the +mV settings we get in programs such as Afterburner? I also assume the Power Limit adjustment is still available in case it needs to draw more than allotted. So...
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    Nvidia GeForce 378.78 WHQL driver

    From Nvidia's slide I read 'Game Release' as in performance for the Game Ready driver whenever that game came out and not necessarily the driver right before 378.78. We could have seen incremental improvements since the game came out through today and that is the combined sum. They could be...
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    Geforce GTX 1080 Ti now official - Faster than Titan X ($699)

    Wow, the FE cooler is junk. After reading about the improvements for this new cooler I thought FE's blower style may be the right choice if I decide to do SLI them. Looks like 3rd party ones are the way to go. Anyone see any benchmarks for a 980 Ti SLI versus 1080 Ti? The 1080 Ti is about 70%...
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    Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

    Cool, thanks. I also have a 2600k. Depending on Ryzen's headroom above 4ghz, it may not be much of an improvement for a single threaded performance. Looks like I'll just wait and see what reviews have to say and don't buy into a preorder just yet.
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    Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

    Anyone else still on Sandy Bridge that is thinking of upgrading to a Ryzen 1800X or 1700X? Mine is at 4.5Ghz and I haven't seen great reasons to upgrade before Ryzen. 4 more cores, upgrade from 1600mhz DDR3 to whatever DDR4. Also more bandwidth via PCI 3.0 16x for my 980 Ti SLI setup. Just...
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    First GTX1070 review

    Wow the coolers on the stock cards are disappointing. If it was less expensive than an AIB card that is one thing, but being more expensive than a 3rd party card I just don't see the point unless you want a reference card to add a water block to. FE doesn't stand for 'Founder's Edition' it...
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    [VideoCardz] GTX 1070 Benchmarks

    Because they were still selling as 'new' and 'current' less than 2 years ago.
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    [VideoCardz] GTX 1070 Benchmarks

    If the 1070 is really 7.5GB I say it doesn't really matter. We are just starting to saturate 4GB even with the high rest textures and 4K. It would be a shitty thing to do but in a practical sense it would make no difference in performance. Dropping from 4GB to 3.5GB was huge since many games...
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    [GamersNexus] Building a GTX 1080 Hybrid P 3: Performance Results (Overclocking 1080)

    2.1Ghz is going to be the realistic overclock for these. This is what Nvidia demo'ed at the reveal. If they could do 2.5ghz, there is no way they would not have demoed it at just 2.1ghz. If they had chips that would go higher they would have demoed that instead. This 2.1ghz barrier also matches...
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    [Various] NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Review Thread

    Regarding 980 Ti overclocks, I will share my personal experience with three different cards. Card 1 (Single Card)- Boosted to about 1480mhz under air w/ minor voltage increase, good temps. I couldn't get 1500mhz out of it. I got around 8.2ghz on the memory, good for around 393GB/s of memory...
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    [bitsandchips]: Pascal to not have improved Async Compute over Maxwell

    The availability of DX12 games and ones that benefit from Async compute is a separate issue and one I agree with. DX12 won't really start becoming prevalent until next year. IMO, this is what limit's Maxwell's downside regarding lack of async support because it will be three to four years...
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    [bitsandchips]: Pascal to not have improved Async Compute over Maxwell

    It is a problem for Nvidia because their brand new card is only 10% faster than previous generation AMD cards. Vega will blow it out of the water and Nvidia has nothing to respond with. Volta is their next opportunity to really improve async compute and that is still two years out.
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    [Various] NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Review Thread

    Did you see the shipping price for them? Over 50% of the product price. $450+ & $1000+ to take them home. A far cry from $300 and $600.
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    [Various] NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Review Thread

    Too bad it is just one game at one resolution, but here is a nice 1080 OC vs 980 Ti OC comparison. Manual OCs, so not just what they boost to out of the box. 154.9/139.3 = 10% improvement
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    [Various] NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Review Thread

    Very nice reviews so far, but I'm not sure what to think about the 1080 yet. Objectively, single GPU performance is very impressive and better than anything that came before it. For a mid-sized die chip it very very fast and bodes very well for the big chips to come. If you need a new high end...
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    Anybody else unimpressed with new midrange Nvidia GPUs, and much higher MSRP?

    To add on to this post, this chart from RS is this 980 Ti sample's performance at factory OC/boost. This chart is that same card compared to a manual OC. A 11% gain over aftermarket stock and about 37% over reference stock... BF3 is the only game though...
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    Anybody else unimpressed with new midrange Nvidia GPUs, and much higher MSRP?

    Haven't seen this covered yet but I'm wondering what kind of OC room is left on the GDDR5X. Maxwell loved memory bandwidth and benefited a lot from memory OCs. I expect Pascal being similar in architecture to also like memory bandwidth. On a 1080, Nvidia had it speced at around 10.5Ghz for...
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    Anybody else unimpressed with new midrange Nvidia GPUs, and much higher MSRP?

    Will be very interesting to see what the 1070 brings. JHH claiming 'faster than Titan X' but it was in the same context/method in claiming the 1080 is '2x faster & 3x more efficient', which was specific to VR and not overall performance. 6.5Tflops for the 1070 vs 9Tflops for 1080. 28% less...
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    NVIDIA Pascal Thread

    Even if they did the same .5GB slow ram thing, it would probably a non issue with 7.5GB of VRAM. That is more than plenty @ 4k. I can't even saturate my 6GB of VRAM. It was a problem with the 970 because 4GB was already cutting it pretty close, so 3.5GB really hurt.
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    NVIDIA Pascal Thread

    Sidegrade for 980 Ti owners but it will be a nice upgrade for everyone else that needs to upgrade. $600 is a lot of money but not totally unexpected. Nvidia has been raising price of x04 chips for a while now. The $380 1070 will be a nice buy, though I expect peak performance to be limited by...
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    NVIDIA Pascal Thread

    I had no idea that taking screenshots of games is a thing.
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    NVIDIA Pascal Thread

    Nice jacket JHH.
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    NVIDIA Pascal Thread

    VR SLI sounds very appealing! I am glad they've recognized how powerful a multi GPU solution can be for VR. 100% scaling!
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    videocardzFirst NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 3DMark Benchmarks

    Six DX12 titles (that are basically DX11 based + some DX12 features) is not many and a 980 Ti can play all of them just fine. We'd be lucky to be at a dozen titles by years end and a 980 Ti will still play them all. No doubt DX12 is the future but potentially improved DX12 performance isn't a...
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