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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    There are 8 test articles on https://www.pugetsystems.com/all_articles.php but yeah, most money doesn't always get the top result.
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    I believe this is the first 7980x retail in stock: https://www.caseking.de/en/intel-core-i9-7980xe-2-6-ghz-skylake-x-sockel-2066-boxed-hpit-427.html 7960x is also there: https://www.caseking.de/en/intel-core-i9-7960x-2-8-ghz-skylake-x-sockel-2066-boxed-hpit-429.html There are more choices for...
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    Yes on 2x 8pin cpu cables. Techspot has 7960x at 4.3 having 500w system power consumption. Either way, with other hardware you might be running, my suggestion would be to adapt the psu to the components instead of the other way around.
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    It's possible, HEDT running cpu and memory clocks higher than xeon could still be bottlenecked. I haven't come across one yet, but I expect somebody will do 7980x memory scaling test eventually.
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    Because Xeons can have up to 28 cores.
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    This is only because we have two big information releases on the same day, no need to panic. In a few weeks this thread will drop off the first page with nothing left to gossip about.
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    7960x is trading places with 7980xe in a few of techspot's benchmark runs so software still plays a role which I thought was interesting. https://www.techspot.com/review/1493-intel-core-i9-7980xe-and-7960x/page2.html
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    What's terrible? yellow is idle, green is cpu only load, 105w delta for 8700k idle to load, red is system (cpu+gpu) game load.
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    Intel claims manufacturing process improvement for Coffee over Kaby and Kaby clocks higher than Skylake-X.
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    Overclocked were all three to 4.5 while stock 8700k does single boost to 4.7 but then it looks like stock 7700k single boost was not working for that POV ray single thread run.
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    7800x and 8700k seem pretty close with 7800x better in sandra processor multimedia tests and 8700k better in gaming.
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    The only thing that keeps it under $400 are the leaks from retailer websites and they still have time to set the prices. Intel released pricing for 1k units, if Kaby 1k-to-retail margins would be applied to Coffee 1k prices the retail would easily reach $400.
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    Specwpc is one weird collection of software when any of the tested cpus can be best or worst depending on which component was benchmarked.
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    If this is being discussed, then via https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/71t5tq/intel_with_their_hedt_lately/dndll5l/ https://i.imgur.com/pUYsrnI.jpg - is a set of 5 chips, 7640x through 7900x and QM72 is code for 7640x the same as the code on the image of "dual core hedt chip" .. so is it...
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Intel-Core-i9-7980XE-18x-2-60GHz-So-2066-WOF_1174954.html seems to be the only placeholder listing with what looks like a placeholder price and 09-29 expected incoming date. Edit: http://www.pc-canada.com/item/BX80673I97980X.html also has the chip...
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    Sugar-coating oversights of not so small organizations doesn't help anybody.
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    I'll just note that extremetech via videocardz are a month old snapshot images, the source is live: http://www.pc-canada.com/p/go/go.asp?CATID=5180&ATTID=1100,1465&SS_Manufacturer=INTEL&ATTID=111116919,138128 And then forbes and anandtech take euro prices and estimate that the us prices will...
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    The trolling will continue until morale improves. Threadcrapping and trolling are not allowed. Markfw Anandtech Moderator
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    There are also non-z CNL PCH-H 300 series boards, later than z370 but earlier than z390.
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    Unless you want >4GB/s aggregate nvme read or write you can run it with z270/z370 chipset connected ssds, Skylake-X for higher aggregate nvme speeds. DMI/PCIE is bidirectional, so you get almost 4GB/s read and write respectively for nvme to nvme copy scenario. OS handles the drivers, the...
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    Having doubts about products being released on the dates promised is one thing, complaining about sales not happening for a product that hasn't been released yet is ridiculous.
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    7960x is scheduled to release at the end of September (http://techreport.com/news/32360/intel-reveals-full-core-i9-specs-and-launch-dates) , don't blame Intel for your lack of patience.
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    Looks like Intel is going to continue hard locked ecc/non ecc split that started with skylake desktop platform, C422 board - http://b2b.gigabyte.com/Server-Motherboard/MW51-HP0-rev-10#ov .
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    One user's results of pushing Skylake-X memory performance - Reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/6v9v0n/to_test_just_how_much_memory_latency_affects/ Screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/XU6na
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    Why was my thread locked?

    The question in the title. As I said in your last thread, "If you have issues with moderation, there is a forum for that. Moderator Discussions. Post there." http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=forums/moderator-discussions.56/ Administrator allisolm,
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    Moderator call out

    Good to know using bogus conditional threats of moderator warnings to intimidate users is allowed here: Calling user's different opinion "an insult to intelligence" while trolling aligned with moderator's bias is being continuously tolerated in the same thread, no wonder he was called out for...
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    I feel the same way. msi x299 xpower would be a badass board to build a system with, even if I don't have a reason to build hedt at the moment. Maybe someday.
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    Skylake-X shares design with Skylake server Xeons, that means they share mesh and cache properties, "the client parts" meant mainstream desktop chips (igpu, dual channel, etc).
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    Z370 would have the benefit of being available earlier, and a familiar and more polished platform with a cost of not having cannonlake pch and thunderbolt with it. I expect Kaby | Cannon PCH split to be used to mark the divide for beyond Coffee compatibility. 16th of September could be start...
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    Your pretty obvious moderation bias doesn't bode well for your intelligence and don't flaunt your inflated status to force your opinions in to other people's discussions. Moderator Callouts are not tolerated on our forums. Members that post they "Like" Moderator Callouts are also not tolerated...
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    With a price like that I'm not surpised somebody would just go for it. It's more information release day, there won't be new options at microcenter to choose from on Monday.
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    Here is something to consider: https://www.mindfactory.de/Hardware/Prozessoren+(CPU)/INTEL+Desktop/Sockel+2066.html/listing_sort/6 Kaby Lake X is not as popular as Skylake X chips, but more than 10% of number of chips sold is pretty good for an oddball niche product, and Intel is making money...
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    20% higher revenue in a shrinking market is not happening and would turn it in to a growing market all by itself, not even Intel could do it, and the margins for products sacrifice would result in even lower profits if the higher revenue target is not met. Business exists to make more money for...
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    If Intel was planning to release CFL-X they would have put it on a roadmap. Continuing with the content of the article, I don't see why the unimpressive reviews of KBL-X, which was just a repackaged chip pressured by 7800x and Ryzen, would be significant in the making or not making of CFL-X...
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    The author didn't provide the source for his supposed CFL-X leak, which my search shows to be 2016 wccf article and it doesn't look like CFL-X has been repeated ever since, which wccf never misses the opportunity to do. So he tried to create the impression that CFL-X plan is real so he could...
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    More benchmarks means more data. If somebody would volunteer to compile a table of this latest benchmark comparison run, that would be very convenient while trying to follow what's going on with all the scores.
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    If I remember correctly we've already had leaks of higher sisoftsandra scores, it's those "other" areas we still don't have information about :) It's reasonable to expect that very well-threaded applications will do very well with the extra cores right on release day - rendering, encoding...
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    So you are going to use older results when newer information is available? The crux of my argument is that I'm responding to flawed logic and arguments. I've not updated to any recent hardware release, I'm on the wait for z390 train, not the wait for z370 train so my patience is rational, not...
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    You seem to have missed the benchmark comparisons that have started recently in this thread. The initial reviews are being used as an argument that Skylake-X is unusable, so you'll understand my skepticism that the reviewers honestly did their best to evaluate the product. Now you want to...
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    Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

    Announcement from Intel would be an official promise of retail availability at some date. There have been no leaks from retail channel, so I guess retail products haven't even started their journey yet, so mid October give or take for retail sales start, if you don't wait for z390.
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