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    Discussion Alder Lake - Builders Thread

    350 here in NY, LI
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    Question i7 7700k to i7 12700k worth it ?

    I went from a 3570k@4.6ghz with a GTX970 to a 12600k with 970 (same GPU for now). As was posted above it really depends on a lot of things and the games you play. what res do you play is the monitor 60, 120, 144hz ? all these thing will matter as to the performance. I will give one brief...
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    Question Alder Lake - Official Thread

    something is wrong with his Wprime scores, I ran 1024M one and I get 79.911 sec with 12600k. The program default to only 4 core count in its settings, not sure if that was from my old 3570k or not as this second drive is from old system. I also ran it with only the 4 core count and got 223.058...
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    Question Alder Lake - Official Thread

    Some gaming performance per watt.
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    Question i7 7700k to i7 12700k worth it ?

    For sure, probably needs more patching unless it is something on my end. It is a VM setup I had running on my old 3570k, I used to set 4 cores and get 4 cores in VM. Maybe the Pro version has better support I didn't spend much time with it, I just wanted to up core count.
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    Question Alder Lake - Official Thread

    It sounds like that Vegas Pro and Render+ are using dynamic cpu priority, next time see if priority changes when it goes to the background. Either that or do you use Processlasso, that can have the same effect, but you can configure it however you want. Some programs run below normal priority...
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    Question i7 7700k to i7 12700k worth it ?

    I use VMware player (free version), with latest version on my 12600k setting VM to use 4 cores got me 1 core in use, after playing with all core counts in setting the highest i could get in the windows VM was 3 cores. I had to hack the VMX file and I was able to get 10 cores to show in VM.
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    Question Alder Lake - Official Thread

    I forgot to mention, I have VMware player but it isn't working right as far as the core count setting that it uses. I think it needs a update for alder lake. I can not get higher than 3 cores for it to use no matter my setting.
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    Question Alder Lake - Official Thread

    Those using Processlasso make sure you are on the latest version as it adds support for Alder-lake and also has CPUsets, though I don't know if that would change outcome of your tests. On my end with 12600k I get with E cores only CM-r15 602 and 1834 with just P cores. though it takes a few...
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    Question Alder Lake - Official Thread

    Those values are not gaming ones, they would be even lower there. He uses CB R23.
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    RapydMark CPU benchmark

    I think this test likes fresh boot my score went up too (time lower 254.442) comparing the memory test from your DDR5 to my DDR4 we can see big changes in the first few memory tests. File memory - DDR5 =25.805, DDR4 = 38.418 Copy memory- DDR5 =16.752, DDR4 =22.326 memory cache performance -...
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    RapydMark CPU benchmark

    I ran the test another time, this time with Asus default "optimized" limits setting before I had it set to Intel limits 150w. even though it never passed 125w (well below the Intel 150w) the score increased (clocks all same as before)
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    RapydMark CPU benchmark

    I did, it's 8 posts up from yours :) Ed
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    RapydMark CPU benchmark

    Maybe we can compare specific memory tests. I pasted those below with memory in the test name. Also, remember I am still using fresh Win10 but looking at core utilization all looks good with this test. Test Type: Fill Memory 256 MB Iterations: 60K | Performance: 1,552 it/s (16th) | Time...
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    RapydMark CPU benchmark

    Duh, ok here high mode (12600k XMP1 3600@c16)
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    RapydMark CPU benchmark

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    RapydMark CPU benchmark

    here results on stock 12600k (didn't do last test, Cathedral 3d). I must of done something wrong, only took 48s Tests report generated by RapydMark v1.2a (64 bits) https://www.frikiscape.com/rapydmark/ ===================================== Date: 11-29-2021 (m-d-y) Time: 10:34:20 CPU: 12th Gen...
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    Discussion Alder Lake - Builders Thread

    That was my thought too when I saw the option and description, I might try the best case option just to see what it affects. I don't come close to power limits, even stock 150w, at least in stock config. CB R20 seems to use more power (125w) than prime95, at least version I use 266. I am still...
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    Discussion Alder Lake - Builders Thread

    I noticed something odd with min processor state values in Alder lake. I used to make a custom power plan by using HP plan as the base and setting the "min processor state" % so to get a mid clock speed at idle and this worked well , easy to get clocks were you want. I tried the same thing on...
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    Discussion Alder Lake - Builders Thread

    That fixed voltage your running is low for freq. I just checked a few things on my side I see max VID going to 1.316 and Vcore of max 1.305. So I run prime95,freq all core 4.5, and VID max is only 1.19 with Vcore max of 1.18. Then I ran CPU=Z ST and all core workloads, same as prime95 with all...
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    Discussion Alder Lake - Builders Thread

    Ok, Thanks for the info, I would not expected that with EIST, and "turbo boost" disabled (fixed freq/voltage), interesting. I have to see what max C states are in bios. Since I don't think much of OC this chip, maybe a little per-core values, I was thinking of setting a - 50-100mv adaptive...
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    Discussion Alder Lake - Builders Thread

    when you set uncore to fixed value (in your case 4.7) do you also set ring/LLC clock the same, they both seem to have matching values stock. PS: My ASUS MB doesn't idle no were as low as yours, on balanced power plan it about 10w package with default bios values but Intel limits (that doesn't...
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    Discussion Alder Lake - Builders Thread

    One thing I was not expecting coming from a 3570k@4.5 was how good the temps are in Prime95 and CB xx. My old system with the same cooler would be in mid 60's C in prime95, this system I have not passed 60c yet, maybe if I let it run prime many hr's it might pass that but if so not by much...
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    Discussion Alder Lake - Builders Thread

    I put together a 12600k last week, parts list. 1)12600k, Tuf Z690 Plus wifi D4, 16g crucial Ballistix 3600@c16, RM750x PSU, Lancool II mesh performance. Cooled with NH-U14S No issues and all work well. Ed
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    Question Alder Lake - Official Thread

    Process Lasso 10.4.0.38 now supports Alder Lake and CPUsets. https://bitsum.com/product-update/process-lasso-10-4-cpu-sets-and-adler-lake/
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    Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread

    XTU does not modify the bios, it runs in windows and yes at startup if you want changes to stick but XTU doesn't have to run just the XTUservice.exe which uses extremely low resources. I read somewhere it now supports Alder lake cores and can adjust each but have not seen it in action (I assume...
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    Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread

    I read somewhere that the priority goes like this, Pcores, then Ecores then HT on Pcores. So HT is the last use case for the cores. We will have to see how this pans out in various workloads.
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    Spectre fix nerfing older systems; How to fix the fix. Is a fix even necessary?

    I have a 3570k and have run various CPU BM, none are affected, in fact, my CB15 went up a tiny bit ( few points) You can use Inspectre to turn on/off. One area I did see different results is in I/O BM the random 4k went down a bit. All my games run the same as far as I can tell. That all said...
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    PrimeGrid Challenges 2019

    FWIW; Just a heads up if not known Process lasso 9.1+ (now 9.2) has new Instance balancer that may help in controlling many exe instances. The new option prefixed with a ‘childof: setting with the exe (childof: boinc.exe ). https://bitsum.com/product-update/processlasso-v901/
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    Question 9900K + Asus z390 mboard runs at max turbo on all cores at idle/full load

    I would disable MCE, I think once you alter ram speed it gets enabled, but your load test says no. Make sure you are on Balanced power plan, I have seen others report max freq when HP is set on. PS: does Vcore change from idle to load?
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    i7 3770k max speed multiplier... normal?

    I think it is only one core at 3900 so it would look like this 3900 MHz (1 cores) 3800 MHz (2 cores) 3700 MHz (3 cores) 3600 MHz (4 cores) Low power frequency 1600mhz OP: It is normal, I have 3750k and I never see the highest clock because it is very rare only one core will be loaded, if you...
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    Intel x'Lake Mobile Platform Memory Overclocking

    What is up on the 2800mhz L1, L2 and L3 results, much lower than the slower 2133 and 2667mhz.
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    Question I7 9700k high temps and voltage

    I am using PL to do all that.
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    Question I7 9700k high temps and voltage

    Even though they claim 9th gen support in F10 bios, IMO see if you can get Z390, I am pretty sure it will work better.
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    Question I7 9700k high temps and voltage

    Ok, looking at your previous posts I don't think your offset voltage values are sticking cause if we add 0.140 to your last load values 1.390, you would originally have 1. 53v. I would check bios good for any OC profiles that might be enabled. with those idle voltages, it be better to just...
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    Question I7 9700k high temps and voltage

    What is your idle voltage at the desktop, maybe 10 min after boot (wait for windows to settle down) Have you messed more with bios, it might be an LLC issue. Also, check the bios good, I am not a fan of there setup, but check the CPU upgrade section, even if auto look at dropdown and see if...
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    Question I7 9700k high temps and voltage

    Ok, this is interesting, I set HWinfo64 refresh to 500ms and with 46x, 45x, 45x 45x I am seeing superPi hit like 30% at 4600 if I set affinity to core 0 but w/o affinity I get 4500. tried 250ms and same but I do see 4600 while idling at the desktop for split seconds. I guess we see how OP works...
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    Question I7 9700k high temps and voltage

    You would think that would work but it doesn't. Setting prime95 to one thread doesn't give you one core load, windows just distribute it across all cores. here an example a 4 core set to these multipliers 46x, 45x, 44x, 43x. Now run prime95 with one thread load and I get 43x (4300), the same...
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    Question I7 9700k high temps and voltage

    Ok, so if you are updated, I would just check other forums (Gigabyte be best) to see if you're alone. If not try a -75-100mv offset. One thing you may run into with high offset is low idle voltages, but I think that will depend on LLC defaults. I don't think you will need to raise power limits...
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    Question I7 9700k high temps and voltage

    You will never see 4.9 in any CPU benchmarks, cause they use all cores. the XTU sounds good but here a few things. 1) your using a Z370 and not Z390 so make sure you have newest bios installed (probably stay away from beta ones). 2) As others have posted if the voltage is still 1.4v you need to...
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